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Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
March 03 2011 01:31 GMT
#6321
wow happy for moon
SNARF HWAITING
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
March 03 2011 01:35 GMT
#6322
On March 03 2011 09:55 BrahCJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 01:22 doteh wrote:
hrm so moonglade v morrow, my bets on glade :D


Entertaining enough!
Its funny to note that neither of these players have won a ZvZ series yet.
Based on the last 2 nights, I'm heavy on mOOnGLaDe, however, I AM a huge fanboi, being from Australia......
MorroW, who I also like, is more proven on the big stage.

I wonder if IdrA (who has been mannered to GLaDe thus far) has offered a helping hand to GLaDe in order to put egg on MorroW's face....

Sorry, MorroW, but.. Here's hoping!

I can't imagine IdrA cooperating with someone out of spite. I think his flair comes more from pride than any sort of hatred and a proud person who isn't impressed with MorroW might expect him to fail on his own.
Who dat ninja?
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
March 03 2011 01:37 GMT
#6323
Glade should beat morrow since EU has no zergs and korea has a lot of good zerg players
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 03 2011 01:46 GMT
#6324
On March 03 2011 10:37 AnotherEon wrote:
Glade should beat morrow since EU has no zergs and korea has a lot of good zerg players

Morrow played a very very close 1-2 series vs idra the other day and has beaten some good zergs recently so I'm not so sure. It's gonna be interesting as fuck to watch.
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
March 03 2011 01:52 GMT
#6325
On March 03 2011 10:37 AnotherEon wrote:
Glade should beat morrow since EU has no zergs and korea has a lot of good zerg players

We'll see. In the games against Moon, Glade played a very typical aggressive ZvZ style, and Moon showed that good defence plus good macro could win out over it. I feel like ZvZ is beginning to change as players get better at handling the early attacks, and I suspect the winner of Glade vs Morrow will be the player best able to adapt.
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
March 03 2011 01:52 GMT
#6326
On March 03 2011 10:37 AnotherEon wrote:
Glade should beat morrow since EU has no zergs and korea has a lot of good zerg players


from what i've seen from GLaDe, his ZvZ is rather lackluster. Probably why i'm so sad so many Zergs got though. Morrow isn't perfect at his ZvZ either though, so i'm scared for mOOnGLaDe at this point. I don't think I can watch it.
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
March 03 2011 02:00 GMT
#6327
i dunno, it'll be close, i hope glade wins
dragoonier
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany154 Posts
March 03 2011 02:03 GMT
#6328
I think Morrow is the favourite to win. Apart from the simple build order loses, I didn't see a huge difference between Ret and Morrow. He also took a game off Idra with better micro.
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
March 03 2011 02:10 GMT
#6329
Ace is probably the favourite now considering Squirtle's PvZ doesn't look as good as his, and Idra isn't as confident in ZvP.
SC2 player for Flash eSports. twitch.tv/nether_drake, https://twitter.com/bryan_sum, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Drake-Sum/468389706519567
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
March 03 2011 02:24 GMT
#6330
IEM still starts at the same time right? So in 5ish hours or so?
the farm ends here
robice
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Germany114 Posts
March 03 2011 02:29 GMT
#6331
On March 03 2011 11:24 PartyBiscuit wrote:
IEM still starts at the same time right? So in 5ish hours or so?


9:30 CET. Damn, only 6hours to sleep
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 02:30:59
March 03 2011 02:30 GMT
#6332
On March 03 2011 09:56 dkim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 07:40 gayftw wrote:
On March 03 2011 06:10 dkim wrote:
On March 03 2011 06:06 gayftw wrote:
On March 03 2011 05:54 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 03 2011 05:49 gayftw wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that.

Can you rap in French or Spanish? I'm almost positive that in America they teach their kids Spanish or French in school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that.

No need to get offensive about this, i've spoke 3 languages when i graduated 12th grade, and i was studying a 4th one, which i still do, it's common, in Europe at least, by no means am i specially dedicated to learning languages. I find it really strange Korean pros barely speak any english. My 4th language (German) is better then the english of most progamers i've heared.
Actually if you care, you can explain why isnt learning English, or other foreign languages popular in Korea, instead of trying to be sarcastic

If you wanna hear my FOB experience, here you go.
I learned English in Korea about 7~8 years, and moved to United States for some bad reason.

And, I could not speak any shit of what I learned in this country.
It's not that I don't remember any grammar or vocabulary.
It just doesn't come out of mouth because I am not sure if what I am saying is correct or not.
And then what I knew suddenly wiped out of my head; and I become speechless.

They don't teach us how to communicate in English; we learn to solve English problems.
We are learning English to survive in Korean Society because Colleges Universities and Companies require us to know English more than Americans know; however, I never ever once thought that we are, at least I am, learning English to speak.


you know, some people are able to apply what they learned. don't quite understand what u are trying to say by solving english problems. they teach grammar and vocabulary. if you are unable to form sentences with them then its your fault. and stop being so mad bro

Solving English problems = taking English skill exam.
You are in foreign country, and try to speak in their language, which has completely different grammars, letters, pronunciation, that you never used in normal communication.
Think that is easy, huh?
It is not easy as it seems, even though you have knowledge about the language.


solving problems = grammar + vocab that alone is all you need to start forming sentences.
I was a korean immigrant too bro, and shit i learned in hakwons and all helped when I came over in 5th grade. shit, they didnt even teach english when I went to kookminhakgyo during my days. that's like 14 years ago, the bar for english taught in krn schools is probably much higher now.


Did you feel like you could comfortably communicate in English when you first immigrated? I'm sure you're fluent now, but living in an English-speaking country is by far the best way to learn the language, plus you moved when you were relatively young, so you probably had an easier time than those who are older. I'm guessing you attended an English hakwon where they actually place more emphasis on teaching you conversational English.
Clerseri
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia150 Posts
March 03 2011 02:34 GMT
#6333
Jinro skullcap, HuK pillow, Moonglade Australian-not-used-to-cold-weather-scarf?

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/sc2/playoffs/match/21702132/

Fantasy will be the next big thing in SC2.
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
March 03 2011 02:46 GMT
#6334
On March 03 2011 11:30 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 09:56 dkim wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:40 gayftw wrote:
On March 03 2011 06:10 dkim wrote:
On March 03 2011 06:06 gayftw wrote:
On March 03 2011 05:54 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 03 2011 05:49 gayftw wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that.

Can you rap in French or Spanish? I'm almost positive that in America they teach their kids Spanish or French in school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that.

No need to get offensive about this, i've spoke 3 languages when i graduated 12th grade, and i was studying a 4th one, which i still do, it's common, in Europe at least, by no means am i specially dedicated to learning languages. I find it really strange Korean pros barely speak any english. My 4th language (German) is better then the english of most progamers i've heared.
Actually if you care, you can explain why isnt learning English, or other foreign languages popular in Korea, instead of trying to be sarcastic

If you wanna hear my FOB experience, here you go.
I learned English in Korea about 7~8 years, and moved to United States for some bad reason.

And, I could not speak any shit of what I learned in this country.
It's not that I don't remember any grammar or vocabulary.
It just doesn't come out of mouth because I am not sure if what I am saying is correct or not.
And then what I knew suddenly wiped out of my head; and I become speechless.

They don't teach us how to communicate in English; we learn to solve English problems.
We are learning English to survive in Korean Society because Colleges Universities and Companies require us to know English more than Americans know; however, I never ever once thought that we are, at least I am, learning English to speak.


you know, some people are able to apply what they learned. don't quite understand what u are trying to say by solving english problems. they teach grammar and vocabulary. if you are unable to form sentences with them then its your fault. and stop being so mad bro

Solving English problems = taking English skill exam.
You are in foreign country, and try to speak in their language, which has completely different grammars, letters, pronunciation, that you never used in normal communication.
Think that is easy, huh?
It is not easy as it seems, even though you have knowledge about the language.


solving problems = grammar + vocab that alone is all you need to start forming sentences.
I was a korean immigrant too bro, and shit i learned in hakwons and all helped when I came over in 5th grade. shit, they didnt even teach english when I went to kookminhakgyo during my days. that's like 14 years ago, the bar for english taught in krn schools is probably much higher now.


Did you feel like you could comfortably communicate in English when you first immigrated? I'm sure you're fluent now, but living in an English-speaking country is by far the best way to learn the language, plus you moved when you were relatively young, so you probably had an easier time than those who are older. I'm guessing you attended an English hakwon where they actually place more emphasis on teaching you conversational English.


As an example, students in Canada (okay maybe just Ontario for all I know) are given mandatory French education until Grade 9.

Most Ontarians can't read/write French because they don't give a fuck, regardless if they passed Grade 9 French, let alone speak.

I would imagine it's similar in Korea?

Either way learning a language in a classroom situation and being able to apply that to conversation without practice is impossible. You need to immerse yourself in a language to speak it properly, and I imagine that people who play games professionally and spend 10 hours a day practicing don't have the time to dedicate themselves to that kind of education.

So to the person who is being extremely judgmental, you should stop that.
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 03:11:57
March 03 2011 03:10 GMT
#6335
Wow, Moon and GLaDe really surprised me. Good stuff, can't wait for the rest.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
March 03 2011 03:12 GMT
#6336
On March 03 2011 11:46 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 11:30 Sein wrote:
On March 03 2011 09:56 dkim wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:40 gayftw wrote:
On March 03 2011 06:10 dkim wrote:
On March 03 2011 06:06 gayftw wrote:
On March 03 2011 05:54 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 03 2011 05:49 gayftw wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that.

Can you rap in French or Spanish? I'm almost positive that in America they teach their kids Spanish or French in school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that.

No need to get offensive about this, i've spoke 3 languages when i graduated 12th grade, and i was studying a 4th one, which i still do, it's common, in Europe at least, by no means am i specially dedicated to learning languages. I find it really strange Korean pros barely speak any english. My 4th language (German) is better then the english of most progamers i've heared.
Actually if you care, you can explain why isnt learning English, or other foreign languages popular in Korea, instead of trying to be sarcastic

If you wanna hear my FOB experience, here you go.
I learned English in Korea about 7~8 years, and moved to United States for some bad reason.

And, I could not speak any shit of what I learned in this country.
It's not that I don't remember any grammar or vocabulary.
It just doesn't come out of mouth because I am not sure if what I am saying is correct or not.
And then what I knew suddenly wiped out of my head; and I become speechless.

They don't teach us how to communicate in English; we learn to solve English problems.
We are learning English to survive in Korean Society because Colleges Universities and Companies require us to know English more than Americans know; however, I never ever once thought that we are, at least I am, learning English to speak.


you know, some people are able to apply what they learned. don't quite understand what u are trying to say by solving english problems. they teach grammar and vocabulary. if you are unable to form sentences with them then its your fault. and stop being so mad bro

Solving English problems = taking English skill exam.
You are in foreign country, and try to speak in their language, which has completely different grammars, letters, pronunciation, that you never used in normal communication.
Think that is easy, huh?
It is not easy as it seems, even though you have knowledge about the language.


solving problems = grammar + vocab that alone is all you need to start forming sentences.
I was a korean immigrant too bro, and shit i learned in hakwons and all helped when I came over in 5th grade. shit, they didnt even teach english when I went to kookminhakgyo during my days. that's like 14 years ago, the bar for english taught in krn schools is probably much higher now.


Did you feel like you could comfortably communicate in English when you first immigrated? I'm sure you're fluent now, but living in an English-speaking country is by far the best way to learn the language, plus you moved when you were relatively young, so you probably had an easier time than those who are older. I'm guessing you attended an English hakwon where they actually place more emphasis on teaching you conversational English.


As an example, students in Canada (okay maybe just Ontario for all I know) are given mandatory French education until Grade 9.

Most Ontarians can't read/write French because they don't give a fuck, regardless if they passed Grade 9 French, let alone speak.

I would imagine it's similar in Korea?

Either way learning a language in a classroom situation and being able to apply that to conversation without practice is impossible. You need to immerse yourself in a language to speak it properly, and I imagine that people who play games professionally and spend 10 hours a day practicing don't have the time to dedicate themselves to that kind of education.

So to the person who is being extremely judgmental, you should stop that.


It is indeed similar to what you said.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 03 2011 03:17 GMT
#6337
On March 03 2011 11:34 Clerseri wrote:
Jinro skullcap, HuK pillow, Moonglade Australian-not-used-to-cold-weather-scarf?

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/sc2/playoffs/match/21702132/


wow lol... best picture ever.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
pjc623
Profile Joined April 2010
United States213 Posts
March 03 2011 03:55 GMT
#6338
What's the schedule for the playoffs? I don't see it in the OP or on the side of TL.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 03 2011 04:00 GMT
#6339
SO I went to the score page, and I see the scores of the two groups. When are the finals? or did they already happen, and if they did where Can i find spoilers?
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3505 Posts
March 03 2011 04:05 GMT
#6340
Playoffs happening tomorrow morning good sir. Today was Group B playing.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
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