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On March 03 2011 07:12 Alphaes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 06:44 gerundium wrote:On March 03 2011 06:22 Meta wrote:On March 03 2011 05:54 Geo.Rion wrote:On March 03 2011 05:49 gayftw wrote:On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. Can you rap in French or Spanish? I'm almost positive that in America they teach their kids Spanish or French in school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. No need to get offensive about this, i've spoke 3 languages when i graduated 12th grade, and i was studying a 4th one, which i still do, it's common, in Europe at least, by no means am i specially dedicated to learning languages. I find it really strange Korean pros barely speak any english. My 4th language (German) is better then the english of most progamers i've heared. Actually if you care, you can explain why isnt learning English, or other foreign languages popular in Korea, instead of trying to be sarcastic Europe has very high educational standards for learning foreign languages than the rest of the world. His objection makes complete sense with regard to American foreign language education. Every American child takes Spanish or French classes for years, and yet somehow almost no American adults can speak those languages. So in that respect, I understand how the same can happen with Korean children and English. There is another valid point here. Languages in europe are heavily influenced by each other, making learning them far easier then learning english as a korean speaking person. This does not explain the bad foreign language education of America for example. Folks here learn it here decently enough, but there's really no place to put it in practice outside the classroom for most people so it they eventually just forget it after the stop learning it due to disuse. I'd imagine it to be pretty much the same case for Korea/most other Asian countries with regards to English and other western languages.
French is even a second national language in Canada, and we learned it from grade 1. But After 10 years of french in school, I can honestly say I no longer remember much beyond "bonjour". Almost literally nothing. Because you aren't learning it to actually use it, you're learning it to pass the class.
So when you're out of the class, never using it, it just evaporates from your mind. ^^
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Did anyone watch the 3 way tie matches? It was like watching Groundhog's day. By the end of it, Sjow, Squirtle and Socke looked like zombies.
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It's there any way to download day 2's replays in one go? I think spoiler free replays are great and i'll download them if i have to, but i saw the matches live so i'd rather just download the whole bunch.
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On March 03 2011 15:07 awwnuts07 wrote:
Did anyone watch the 3 way tie matches? It was like watching Groundhog's day. By the end of it, Sjow, Squirtle and Socke looked like zombies.
Actually, I didn't think Squirtle really looked all that that tired. Tired of it in #3, but after #4 he looked like he was ready to keep playing.
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On March 03 2011 15:20 Tachion wrote:Ok I'm a little confused by the schedule for today http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/schedule/The first quarter-finals round starts at 12:30am PST right? And the 2nd quarter-final at 2:45am PST? What is the 3rd SC2 event listed that says IFNG? The IFNG is part of the German ESL Pro Series, where HasuObs will meet TLO.
While Intel Extreme Masters is a global tournament, ESL Pro Series is our national series. And IFNGs are our regular offline events, where selected matches are being played. More information about ESL Pro Series (EPS) is available here: http://www.esl.eu/de/pro-series/summer_2011/
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On March 03 2011 15:06 ThaZenith wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 07:12 Alphaes wrote:On March 03 2011 06:44 gerundium wrote:On March 03 2011 06:22 Meta wrote:On March 03 2011 05:54 Geo.Rion wrote:On March 03 2011 05:49 gayftw wrote:On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. Can you rap in French or Spanish? I'm almost positive that in America they teach their kids Spanish or French in school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. No need to get offensive about this, i've spoke 3 languages when i graduated 12th grade, and i was studying a 4th one, which i still do, it's common, in Europe at least, by no means am i specially dedicated to learning languages. I find it really strange Korean pros barely speak any english. My 4th language (German) is better then the english of most progamers i've heared. Actually if you care, you can explain why isnt learning English, or other foreign languages popular in Korea, instead of trying to be sarcastic Europe has very high educational standards for learning foreign languages than the rest of the world. His objection makes complete sense with regard to American foreign language education. Every American child takes Spanish or French classes for years, and yet somehow almost no American adults can speak those languages. So in that respect, I understand how the same can happen with Korean children and English. There is another valid point here. Languages in europe are heavily influenced by each other, making learning them far easier then learning english as a korean speaking person. This does not explain the bad foreign language education of America for example. Folks here learn it here decently enough, but there's really no place to put it in practice outside the classroom for most people so it they eventually just forget it after the stop learning it due to disuse. I'd imagine it to be pretty much the same case for Korea/most other Asian countries with regards to English and other western languages. French is even a second national language in Canada, and we learned it from grade 1. But After 10 years of french in school, I can honestly say I no longer remember much beyond "bonjour". Almost literally nothing. Because you aren't learning it to actually use it, you're learning it to pass the class. So when you're out of the class, never using it, it just evaporates from your mind. ^^
This.
I grew up in Ontario, went to a French school from Kindergarden to the 7th grade, primarily speaking French. I learned to read in French before English, I learned all my lower math in French as well. When I was 13 I moved to California and in the one year that I didn't take French (my Jr High didn't teach it) I forgot most of it by the time I took a French class my Freshman year, at which point I was learning things I had learned when I was 7.
Now that I'm 26, I can read in French but I'll be damned if I can remember how to speak it on my own.
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what time is playoff exactly? Event calendar doesnt have it listed
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On March 03 2011 15:48 baoluvboa wrote:
what time is playoff exactly? Event calendar doesnt have it listed
If TL.net does not have it, you might as well go to the Intel Extreme Masters website (www.intelextrememasters.com or google it). All the info is there.
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On March 03 2011 15:44 Xeteh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 15:06 ThaZenith wrote:On March 03 2011 07:12 Alphaes wrote:On March 03 2011 06:44 gerundium wrote:On March 03 2011 06:22 Meta wrote:On March 03 2011 05:54 Geo.Rion wrote:On March 03 2011 05:49 gayftw wrote:On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. Can you rap in French or Spanish? I'm almost positive that in America they teach their kids Spanish or French in school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. No need to get offensive about this, i've spoke 3 languages when i graduated 12th grade, and i was studying a 4th one, which i still do, it's common, in Europe at least, by no means am i specially dedicated to learning languages. I find it really strange Korean pros barely speak any english. My 4th language (German) is better then the english of most progamers i've heared. Actually if you care, you can explain why isnt learning English, or other foreign languages popular in Korea, instead of trying to be sarcastic Europe has very high educational standards for learning foreign languages than the rest of the world. His objection makes complete sense with regard to American foreign language education. Every American child takes Spanish or French classes for years, and yet somehow almost no American adults can speak those languages. So in that respect, I understand how the same can happen with Korean children and English. There is another valid point here. Languages in europe are heavily influenced by each other, making learning them far easier then learning english as a korean speaking person. This does not explain the bad foreign language education of America for example. Folks here learn it here decently enough, but there's really no place to put it in practice outside the classroom for most people so it they eventually just forget it after the stop learning it due to disuse. I'd imagine it to be pretty much the same case for Korea/most other Asian countries with regards to English and other western languages. French is even a second national language in Canada, and we learned it from grade 1. But After 10 years of french in school, I can honestly say I no longer remember much beyond "bonjour". Almost literally nothing. Because you aren't learning it to actually use it, you're learning it to pass the class. So when you're out of the class, never using it, it just evaporates from your mind. ^^ This. I grew up in Ontario, went to a French school from Kindergarden to the 7th grade, primarily speaking French. I learned to read in French before English, I learned all my lower math in French as well. When I was 13 I moved to California and in the one year that I didn't take French (my Jr High didn't teach it) I forgot most of it by the time I took a French class my Freshman year, at which point I was learning things I had learned when I was 7. Now that I'm 26, I can read in French but I'll be damned if I can remember how to speak it on my own.
I think it's also a personal thing and will depend on one's ability and tendency to learn and remember languages. I learnt French on and off at high for about 4-5 years and even three years after my last French class, I can watch French movies without subtitles. On the other hand, I know other people who were in my class who know next to no French nowadays.
However, I think it is pretty bad for someone to retain so little English after schooling as it is certainly the predominant global language.
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IdrA vs. Squirtle in about 1 1/2 hours! mOOnGLaDe vs. MorroW afterwards...
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On March 03 2011 15:57 Carmac wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 15:48 baoluvboa wrote:
what time is playoff exactly? Event calendar doesnt have it listed If TL.net does not have it, you might as well go to the Intel Extreme Masters website (www.intelextrememasters.com or google it). All the info is there.
It would be more useful if there was some statement about what time zone the listed starting times are based on.
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Hells yes Moonglade Represent Down Under baby!
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Rise and shine , good morning lads, The Gracken vs Squirtle will be live in 1 hour and some minutes brought to you by Dario TLO Wuensch, unfortunately from Studio 2 while the main stage will have CS or Quake not sure, bit sad but the 2nd playoff game between Moonglade and MorroW will be on main stage atleast, as well as the friday night game between Hasuobs and TLO, let's hope for an epic day :D
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i didn't get to watch all of IEM day2, did the tournament finish/how come it does not appear on the event calendar anymore
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On March 03 2011 16:01 Sernen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 15:57 Carmac wrote:On March 03 2011 15:48 baoluvboa wrote:
what time is playoff exactly? Event calendar doesnt have it listed If TL.net does not have it, you might as well go to the Intel Extreme Masters website (www.intelextrememasters.com or google it). All the info is there. It would be more useful if there was some statement about what time zone the listed starting times are based on. Local time = CET
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On March 03 2011 16:18 otacon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 16:01 Sernen wrote:On March 03 2011 15:57 Carmac wrote:On March 03 2011 15:48 baoluvboa wrote:
what time is playoff exactly? Event calendar doesnt have it listed If TL.net does not have it, you might as well go to the Intel Extreme Masters website (www.intelextrememasters.com or google it). All the info is there. It would be more useful if there was some statement about what time zone the listed starting times are based on. Local time = CET
And CET is GMT+1.
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Are the VoDs going to be on Youtube?
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On March 03 2011 15:57 Carmac wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 15:48 baoluvboa wrote:
what time is playoff exactly? Event calendar doesnt have it listed If TL.net does not have it, you might as well go to the Intel Extreme Masters website (www.intelextrememasters.com or google it). All the info is there.
I just looked at the schedule.
They're stretching this out until Saturday??!!
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On March 03 2011 15:20 Grayson Carlyle wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 15:07 awwnuts07 wrote:
Did anyone watch the 3 way tie matches? It was like watching Groundhog's day. By the end of it, Sjow, Squirtle and Socke looked like zombies. Actually, I didn't think Squirtle really looked all that that tired. Tired of it in #3, but after #4 he looked like he was ready to keep playing.
He said in the interview that he was close to giving up -_-
If anything, it was harder for him because he was jet-lagged.
Also it wasn't like Sjow had no chance vs Squirtle. He won one game against him, lost one game because he lacked 15 gas, and had a superior economy in their last game, very close games.
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