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On February 12 2011 01:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 01:53 Puosu wrote: If I was the head of gom I'd rip Sjow's foreigner house application in half, proper gg timing is an important part of being a progamer. What? You've heard of Moon right? The games he has stayed in for GSL were way worse than what Sjow did. Unless you're saying Moon is not a proper progamer or something. In some remote world I could see why Sjow thought he could make a crazy comeback. Why are people raging so hard over this it's SC2 with mules and a secret expansion people do make unexpected comebacks. Sure Sjow was without hope but he can't read the game perfectly when he's playing himself. We've seen so much worse than this and I doubt his intention was bm which is all that matters. Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 01:59 ZlaSHeR wrote: But to make a acomeback you need to play against a guy that only knows how to play 12 minutes into the game and has neverp layed past that. Sein clearly is not THAT weak of a player, he had at lesat decent enough macro to constantly be producing an army while using his strategy that abuses what Sjow is famous for, not scouting.
Whether or not Sjow thinks he has a chance should be irrelevant. It's still BM to do what he did, all things considered. Sein has 3 bases, Sjow had nothing left. I understand that your point is that he thinks he has a chance so he should keep fighting on, but I don't think that really can apply to the specific situation here, Nazgul. Whether or not Sjow thinks he had a chance is all that matters. If he did then there is absolutely nothing bad manner going on. If he didn't then I would agree that it's not very nice. It's a different situation though if there are still games left to be played in the series. Also I'm somewhat skeptical about the whole assertion about Moon unless he stayed until he literally had no base left. Finally, this is Sjow we are talking about; as a high level player he had to have known he had no chance whatsoever.
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On February 12 2011 02:05 Ludwigvan wrote:anyone else watching Khaldors stream muted and listening to music?  Why would one do that? His casting is fucking sweet.
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Jesuz is drone rushing Socke!
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On February 12 2011 01:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 01:53 Puosu wrote: If I was the head of gom I'd rip Sjow's foreigner house application in half, proper gg timing is an important part of being a progamer. What? You've heard of Moon right? The games he has stayed in for GSL were way worse than what Sjow did. Unless you're saying Moon is not a proper progamer or something. In some remote world I could see why Sjow thought he could make a crazy comeback. Why are people raging so hard over this it's SC2 with mules and a secret expansion people do make unexpected comebacks. Sure Sjow was without hope but he can't read the game perfectly when he's playing himself. We've seen so much worse than this and I doubt his intention was bm which is all that matters.
Just one thing about Moon, crazy insane comebacks is somewhat of his trademark - like at last WCG or Blizzcon vs Grubby when he literally had one talon vs the entire orc army and pulled it off. It's his thing, which sometimes can lead to unnecessary long games but also the most epic shit ever seen in WC3.
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Didn't expect that from Adel :O
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Does anyone else think Actionjesus is just embarassing and not funny?
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On February 12 2011 01:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 01:53 Puosu wrote: If I was the head of gom I'd rip Sjow's foreigner house application in half, proper gg timing is an important part of being a progamer. What? You've heard of Moon right? The games he has stayed in for GSL were way worse than what Sjow did. Unless you're saying Moon is not a proper progamer or something. In some remote world I could see why Sjow thought he could make a crazy comeback. Why are people raging so hard over this it's SC2 with mules and a secret expansion people do make unexpected comebacks. Sure Sjow was without hope but he can't read the game perfectly when he's playing himself. We've seen so much worse than this and I doubt his intention was bm which is all that matters. Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 01:59 ZlaSHeR wrote: But to make a acomeback you need to play against a guy that only knows how to play 12 minutes into the game and has neverp layed past that. Sein clearly is not THAT weak of a player, he had at lesat decent enough macro to constantly be producing an army while using his strategy that abuses what Sjow is famous for, not scouting.
Whether or not Sjow thinks he has a chance should be irrelevant. It's still BM to do what he did, all things considered. Sein has 3 bases, Sjow had nothing left. I understand that your point is that he thinks he has a chance so he should keep fighting on, but I don't think that really can apply to the specific situation here, Nazgul. Whether or not Sjow thinks he had a chance is all that matters. If he did then there is absolutely nothing bad manner going on. If he didn't then I would agree that it's not very nice.
Puoso was being sarcastic i believe, and yes moon was worse :D but i agree with you. I believe SjoW still believed he had a chance.
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hoho who would have thought actionjesus to try a ling/drone rush :D
maybe he tries the proxy hatch now like in the showmatch series?
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Actionjesus!!
He chose jungle, that can only mean one thing. Another zerg cheese! :D
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Sjow losing could could turn out bad for TLO, because he has to play against second place of Sjow's group.
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actionjesus playing to his strenghts
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crush him Socke!! AJ is AJoke
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On February 12 2011 01:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 01:53 Puosu wrote: If I was the head of gom I'd rip Sjow's foreigner house application in half, proper gg timing is an important part of being a progamer. What? You've heard of Moon right? The games he has stayed in for GSL were way worse than what Sjow did. Unless you're saying Moon is not a proper progamer or something. In some remote world I could see why Sjow thought he could make a crazy comeback. Why are people raging so hard over this it's SC2 with mules and a secret expansion people do make unexpected comebacks. Sure Sjow was without hope but he can't read the game perfectly when he's playing himself. We've seen so much worse than this and I doubt his intention was bm which is all that matters. Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 01:59 ZlaSHeR wrote: But to make a acomeback you need to play against a guy that only knows how to play 12 minutes into the game and has neverp layed past that. Sein clearly is not THAT weak of a player, he had at lesat decent enough macro to constantly be producing an army while using his strategy that abuses what Sjow is famous for, not scouting.
Whether or not Sjow thinks he has a chance should be irrelevant. It's still BM to do what he did, all things considered. Sein has 3 bases, Sjow had nothing left. I understand that your point is that he thinks he has a chance so he should keep fighting on, but I don't think that really can apply to the specific situation here, Nazgul. Whether or not Sjow thinks he had a chance is all that matters. If he did then there is absolutely nothing bad manner going on. If he didn't then I would agree that it's not very nice.
I guess thats an interesting take on it, my opinion is he stayed in the game out of frustration, not because he thought he still had a chance I mean. If Sein were a 1 baser who has no experience in a follow up, then fair enough, 2 orbital commands and production buildings MIGHT give you a chance, but no workers against a 100+ food army that he just SAW wiped out his base, against a protoss thats on 3 bases (2 mining) theres no feasibility of a comeback there. I guess our differing opinion is whether being unintentionally BM is still BM.
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heh, I always send a drone down to that middle patch between the bases on shakuras before I plant a hatch or go out to scout for that exact reason :p
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On February 12 2011 02:02 Hirnfrost wrote:Adelscott so good  Adelscott so good
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On February 12 2011 02:02 hmunkey wrote: Does anyone else keep getting the feeling Liquid`Sjow will happen once he gets a big victory in a major tournament?
Every comment I've seen by Nazgul and other Liquid members makes me think of that, along with the fact that Sjow is a strong player in the smaller leagues and is taking tournament after tournament from good players.
I dont think its that, but i do think nazgul respects sjow as a player
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On February 12 2011 02:05 Ludwigvan wrote:anyone else watching Khaldors stream muted and listening to music? 
Listening to music while watching all 3 casts its more chill that way
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I am going to bet that ActionJesuz is going to proxy hatch in the natural of Socke, and go for a all-in ling attack.
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lolol ro32 already gonna be epic TLO vs Sjow (most likely) Kas vs Morrow
actionjesuz choosing jungle :>
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Lol ActionJesuz all-in with all drones + zerglings. fail.
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