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wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
February 11 2011 16:58 GMT
#961
Roaches out for Morrow, good creep spread is giving him an advantage in defending pressure. Adel expanding.
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 11 2011 16:59 GMT
#962
On February 12 2011 01:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:52 Kier wrote:
Is that BM in itself though? Essentially thinking "my opponent is so abso-fucking-lutely terrible that I'll come back".

I don't think the realization that you need to stay a little longer vs worse opponent is bm no.. seems standard stuff that every top player does. Just not to Sjows extreme :p


But to make a acomeback you need to play against a guy that only knows how to play 12 minutes into the game and has neverp layed past that. Sein clearly is not THAT weak of a player, he had at lesat decent enough macro to constantly be producing an army while using his strategy that abuses what Sjow is famous for, not scouting.

Whether or not Sjow thinks he has a chance should be irrelevant. It's still BM to do what he did, all things considered. Sein has 3 bases, Sjow had nothing left. I understand that your point is that he thinks he has a chance so he should keep fighting on, but I don't think that really can apply to the specific situation here, Nazgul.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 17:01:09
February 11 2011 16:59 GMT
#963
On February 12 2011 01:53 Puosu wrote:
If I was the head of gom I'd rip Sjow's foreigner house application in half, proper gg timing is an important part of being a progamer.

What? You've heard of Moon right? The games he has stayed in for GSL were way worse than what Sjow did. Unless you're saying Moon is not a proper progamer or something.

In some remote world I could see why Sjow thought he could make a crazy comeback. Why are people raging so hard over this it's SC2 with mules and a secret expansion people do make unexpected comebacks. Sure Sjow was without hope but he can't read the game perfectly when he's playing himself.

We've seen so much worse than this and I doubt his intention was bm which is all that matters.
On February 12 2011 01:59 ZlaSHeR wrote:
But to make a acomeback you need to play against a guy that only knows how to play 12 minutes into the game and has neverp layed past that. Sein clearly is not THAT weak of a player, he had at lesat decent enough macro to constantly be producing an army while using his strategy that abuses what Sjow is famous for, not scouting.

Whether or not Sjow thinks he has a chance should be irrelevant. It's still BM to do what he did, all things considered. Sein has 3 bases, Sjow had nothing left. I understand that your point is that he thinks he has a chance so he should keep fighting on, but I don't think that really can apply to the specific situation here, Nazgul.

Whether or not Sjow thinks he had a chance is all that matters. If he did then there is absolutely nothing bad manner going on. If he didn't then I would agree that it's not very nice.
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wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
February 11 2011 16:59 GMT
#964
Big Ling runby from morrow *almost* takes out adel's expo nexus.
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
February 11 2011 16:59 GMT
#965
Ooooh morrow almost gets the nexus. Very close.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
February 11 2011 17:00 GMT
#966
On February 12 2011 01:54 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:51 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Sjow just has some twisted idea of being able to come back and isn't being bm?


I don't see any issue with staying in the game even if you have only a theoretical chance to come back.

The TL community is just getting worse and worse when it comes to gg, soon people will demand the same (retarded) gg timing that Idra got.

As a Terran it is always "theoretically" possible to come back with just an orbital command (with no minerals). Doesn't mean you should be trying to do it every time. At some point you have to learn to assess the situation and think about what would have to happen for you to come back.

The way I saw that game. Sein would have have had to just walk away from the keyboard for 5 mins and then maybe Sjow would actually have an army capable of taking out what Sein had on the map at the time. Sjow saw that army. He saw how big it was as he was lifting his buildings away.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 11 2011 17:00 GMT
#967
On February 12 2011 01:56 labbe wrote:
Laughing at all the people getting upset for SjoW lifting off. Who gives a crap? Honestly.

Agreed. Heck, even Jinro lifted off his buildings during a game against MarineKingPrime, though I guess he was hoping for more of a base-trade situation.

Actually, I missed that Sjow game that everyone is raging over. Could someone give a synopsis of the circumstances of that BM?

Honestly, I think everyone will forget this game after Sjow wins some other competitions.
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Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
February 11 2011 17:00 GMT
#968
I fully understand if Sjow was pissed but probably at himself. First he got cheesed, then a restart from cross spawn to close spawn - into playing terribly(yes he did). It's refreshing to see someone BM from time to time, everyone can't be nice all the time, how dull would that be.

Now let it go Sjow and win the last game!
Marooned
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway161 Posts
February 11 2011 17:01 GMT
#969
Well, was kinda starting to like Sjow's play, but that was just embarrassing. So many watching as well.. Poor guy.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
February 11 2011 17:01 GMT
#970
Those forcefields on the Polish stream
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
February 11 2011 17:01 GMT
#971
On February 12 2011 01:56 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:54 Eury wrote:
On February 12 2011 01:51 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Sjow just has some twisted idea of being able to come back and isn't being bm?


I don't see any issue with staying in the game even if you have only a theoretical chance to come back.

The TL community is just getting worse and worse when it comes to gg, soon people will demand the same (retarded) gg timing that Idra got.


not sure if serious :|

did you actually watch that game?
he had like 1 banshee and his buildings versus a protoss ground ARMY

only chance he had was the protoss player dropping dead infront of his pc and even then the unit ai might have been able to handle it by itself


As long as he have an orbital command he got a theoretical chance to come back and have every right to stay in the game, if you don't like it, then too bad.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
February 11 2011 17:01 GMT
#972
Nice play by Adelscott!
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Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
February 11 2011 17:01 GMT
#973
On February 12 2011 01:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:53 Puosu wrote:
If I was the head of gom I'd rip Sjow's foreigner house application in half, proper gg timing is an important part of being a progamer.

What? You've heard of Moon right? The games he has stayed in for GSL were way worse than what Sjow did. Unless you're saying Moon is not a proper progamer or something.

In some remote world I could see why Sjow thought he could make a crazy comeback. Why are people raging so hard over this it's SC2 with mules and a secret expansion people do make unexpected comebacks. Sure Sjow was without hope but he can't read the game perfectly when he's playing himself.

We've seen so much worse than this and I doubt his intention was bm which is all that matters.


Moon is awesome,, just reading his name makes me feel happy =)

i'll also add that i agree with you.
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
February 11 2011 17:02 GMT
#974
Nice play by Adelscott !
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
February 11 2011 17:02 GMT
#975
Way too many drones for Morrow, Adel walks in and takes out expansion hatch with a big gateway army vs 11 roaches, Morrow GGs
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
February 11 2011 17:02 GMT
#976
On February 12 2011 01:58 IndridCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:56 Piski wrote:
Ret vs Grubby showmatch starting.
get a stream of this up haha. who won grubby vs qxc?

Qxc won that one. Too early to tell who is winning now. Grubby went sg and is expanding. I think HuK is next
DizzyDrone
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
February 11 2011 17:02 GMT
#977
On February 12 2011 01:52 Caphe wrote:
What is sjow situation rightnow. Will he be able to get thru to round 2?


Yes. Right now Seinis is through already (as he won twice) and Which is lost already (as he lost twice). It will come down to the final match between Sjow and RunA
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
February 11 2011 17:02 GMT
#978
Can we plz not blow this put of proportion?

Most players would have left earlier, me too. But he left eventually and did not wait until all his buildings were destroyed; he also called gg.

Now lets get back to a great tournament
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
February 11 2011 17:02 GMT
#979
Does anyone else keep getting the feeling Liquid`Sjow will happen once he gets a big victory in a major tournament?

Every comment I've seen by Nazgul and other Liquid members makes me think of that, along with the fact that Sjow is a strong player in the smaller leagues and is taking tournament after tournament from good players.
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
February 11 2011 17:02 GMT
#980
Adelscott so good
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