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zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
February 22 2011 17:36 GMT
#4121
On February 23 2011 00:14 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 19:54 Punkstar wrote:
I recommend watching vods of this showmatch, he was on skype with debo and Cella and it was friggin hillarious !
http://www.justin.tv/burninatingtheforest/b/280131237


lol..who's that main guy? i don't wanna sound racist, but that was some hilarious real ghetto starcraft, rapping wu-tang during the last game.

and haha, my favorite moment:

guy A: "i would really like to know what his income is"
ghetto guy: "he has 4k/2k"
guy A: "no, I mean income"
ghetto guy: "that's the money coming in?"
guy A: "yea.."

:D


Its Debo, and main guy is Steven aka Destiny.
Both have stream here.

And i think, Debo was drunk yday ;D
I'm getting the derection.
DestroManiak
Profile Joined December 2010
257 Posts
February 22 2011 17:37 GMT
#4122
are there vods of the games?
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
February 22 2011 17:56 GMT
#4123
Incontrol, you should have reviewed some simple casting things that would have made for a better cast. Problems were.

Super high Sensitivity, not really good camera panning. Incontrol's volume was about 3x as loud as gretorp (mispelled) and the game music was louder than both of you.

some technical stuff that may have been out of your control were the misyncs in audio/video time , as sometimes we would see the GG before you commentated it or even vice versa. Lag even on lowest settings(out of your control, 20k viewers)

All in all seemed like a pretty good match up.
ponyo.848
Smoofz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2 Posts
February 22 2011 18:08 GMT
#4124
Thanks for casting this awesome showmatch incontrol/gretorp. The final match was definitely the most exciting and hopefully the new maps get more of these kinds of games going.

Was a great series despite the obvious audio and video issues. I thought you guys were a great combination and hope you continue to cast the NASL games together.
leviathan400
Profile Joined November 2006
United Kingdom393 Posts
February 22 2011 18:27 GMT
#4125
Great work Good games to watch! gg's!
:o
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
February 22 2011 18:33 GMT
#4126
On February 23 2011 00:14 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 19:54 Punkstar wrote:
I recommend watching vods of this showmatch, he was on skype with debo and Cella and it was friggin hillarious !
http://www.justin.tv/burninatingtheforest/b/280131237


lol..who's that main guy? i don't wanna sound racist, but that was some hilarious real ghetto starcraft, rapping wu-tang during the last game.

and haha, my favorite moment:

guy A: "i would really like to know what his income is"
ghetto guy: "he has 4k/2k"
guy A: "no, I mean income"
ghetto guy: "that's the money coming in?"
guy A: "yea.."

:D



I watched some of that and I felt like my braincells were melting.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
February 22 2011 18:46 GMT
#4127
So, Jinro's performance in the second set inspired me to do this:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


User was warned for this post
CptBanana
Profile Joined October 2010
United States17 Posts
February 22 2011 18:52 GMT
#4128
Good news is, things can only get better. I'm looking forward to NASL this spring!
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
February 22 2011 19:24 GMT
#4129
On February 23 2011 03:33 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 00:14 ondik wrote:
On February 22 2011 19:54 Punkstar wrote:
I recommend watching vods of this showmatch, he was on skype with debo and Cella and it was friggin hillarious !
http://www.justin.tv/burninatingtheforest/b/280131237


lol..who's that main guy? i don't wanna sound racist, but that was some hilarious real ghetto starcraft, rapping wu-tang during the last game.

and haha, my favorite moment:

guy A: "i would really like to know what his income is"
ghetto guy: "he has 4k/2k"
guy A: "no, I mean income"
ghetto guy: "that's the money coming in?"
guy A: "yea.."

:D



I watched some of that and I felt like my braincells were melting.


See I like that, I'd want to hear more from those two. There's enough feminine nerds casting Starcraft, about time we got some real talk on the games. I like watching it but I'm pretty much forced to listen to annoying voices at every big game (with some exceptions) because of how "knowledgeable" they are. I like having options.

I know I'm probably outnumbered on that opinion but fuck it, if you know enough about the game to complain the caster's knowledge, why do you need a caster that can tell you what you already know? I'd rather there be more entertainment value to it personally.

Also first time I heard the word ghetto in like 6 years, good luck with trying to bring that back.
Streaming on twitch. http://www.twitch.tv/rahsun86
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
February 22 2011 19:28 GMT
#4130
On February 22 2011 08:25 Horse...falcon wrote:
Hive tech really needed for Zerg vs Mech. Either that or faster infestors out.


Any decent zerg knows that the best response to a mech build is roaches + infestor NP, especially witch so many thors. I try this build some times and get crushed anytime a zerg is doing this unit composition, even with full upgrades.

Idra is a good "muta ling baneling" zerg, and thats it. As he was a good "roache hydras" ultras zerg during the beta ^^
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
February 22 2011 19:38 GMT
#4131
On February 23 2011 00:58 Dreaming11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 00:14 ondik wrote:
On February 22 2011 19:54 Punkstar wrote:
I recommend watching vods of this showmatch, he was on skype with debo and Cella and it was friggin hillarious !
http://www.justin.tv/burninatingtheforest/b/280131237


lol..who's that main guy? i don't wanna sound racist, but that was some hilarious real ghetto starcraft, rapping wu-tang during the last game.

and haha, my favorite moment:

guy A: "i would really like to know what his income is"
ghetto guy: "he has 4k/2k"
guy A: "no, I mean income"
ghetto guy: "that's the money coming in?"
guy A: "yea.."

:D


Yea great to listen to, I watched it live and this pair are much more entertaining .

I think its this guy:


oh yea, that must be him as he was talking about banshees all the time the last game LOL
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
February 22 2011 19:46 GMT
#4132
On February 23 2011 04:28 sage_francis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 08:25 Horse...falcon wrote:
Hive tech really needed for Zerg vs Mech. Either that or faster infestors out.


Any decent zerg knows that the best response to a mech build is roaches + infestor NP, especially witch so many thors. I try this build some times and get crushed anytime a zerg is doing this unit composition, even with full upgrades.

Idra is a good "muta ling baneling" zerg, and thats it. As he was a good "roache hydras" ultras zerg during the beta ^^


I honestly don't think he saw that Jinro was going mech until it was too late. The only units he ever saw were the thors and it isn't really weird for a standard bio terran to mix in a few thors to deal with muta harass. And his mutas never were able to penetrate deep enough into jinro's base to see that jinro had almost all factories and no barracks. As soon as jinro moved to take his 4th and idra saw his army, idra started the switch to roaches and infestors, even sacking lings to free up supply. I could be wrong but thats what I saw
"So come right up and let me squash your creativity with my iron fist of conservative play."--Nony
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 20:30:32
February 22 2011 20:28 GMT
#4133
On February 23 2011 04:46 BrodiaQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 04:28 sage_francis wrote:
On February 22 2011 08:25 Horse...falcon wrote:
Hive tech really needed for Zerg vs Mech. Either that or faster infestors out.


Any decent zerg knows that the best response to a mech build is roaches + infestor NP, especially witch so many thors. I try this build some times and get crushed anytime a zerg is doing this unit composition, even with full upgrades.

Idra is a good "muta ling baneling" zerg, and thats it. As he was a good "roache hydras" ultras zerg during the beta ^^


I honestly don't think he saw that Jinro was going mech until it was too late. The only units he ever saw were the thors and it isn't really weird for a standard bio terran to mix in a few thors to deal with muta harass. And his mutas never were able to penetrate deep enough into jinro's base to see that jinro had almost all factories and no barracks. As soon as jinro moved to take his 4th and idra saw his army, idra started the switch to roaches and infestors, even sacking lings to free up supply. I could be wrong but thats what I saw


Well u just pointed out the fact that idra did a poor scout job. Do u really think its so hard to make the difference between mech build and MMtanks build? I guess Grack ignores the fact that overlords can morph into overseers and drop some little things called changeling ^^
As he ignores that roaches are important in ZvT.
Just take a look at dimaga's ZvT, u will quiclky understand that u cant make ling mutas bans every single game vs terran.
TheXenocide1
Profile Joined January 2011
United States58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 20:44:39
February 22 2011 20:43 GMT
#4134
On February 23 2011 05:28 sage_francis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 04:46 BrodiaQ wrote:
On February 23 2011 04:28 sage_francis wrote:
On February 22 2011 08:25 Horse...falcon wrote:
Hive tech really needed for Zerg vs Mech. Either that or faster infestors out.


Any decent zerg knows that the best response to a mech build is roaches + infestor NP, especially witch so many thors. I try this build some times and get crushed anytime a zerg is doing this unit composition, even with full upgrades.

Idra is a good "muta ling baneling" zerg, and thats it. As he was a good "roache hydras" ultras zerg during the beta ^^


I honestly don't think he saw that Jinro was going mech until it was too late. The only units he ever saw were the thors and it isn't really weird for a standard bio terran to mix in a few thors to deal with muta harass. And his mutas never were able to penetrate deep enough into jinro's base to see that jinro had almost all factories and no barracks. As soon as jinro moved to take his 4th and idra saw his army, idra started the switch to roaches and infestors, even sacking lings to free up supply. I could be wrong but thats what I saw


Well u just pointed out the fact that idra did a poor scout job. Do u really think its so hard to make the difference between mech build and MMtanks build? I guess Grack ignores the fact that overlords can morph into overseers and drop some little things called changeling ^^
As he ignores that roaches are important in ZvT.
Just take a look at dimaga's ZvT, u will quiclky understand that u cant make ling mutas bans every single game vs terran.


apparently you can make it into the round of 8 in the GSL by doing this....
Fear is the Mind Killer
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
February 22 2011 20:51 GMT
#4135
I think IdrA has no more fighting spirit, he does not enjoy playing anymore he just play like a machine and it affect his play.
I'm a terran player but i always liked IdrA because he know what he's talking about, but recently i think complain more than play.
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 20:58:34
February 22 2011 20:57 GMT
#4136
On February 23 2011 05:43 TheXenocide1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 05:28 sage_francis wrote:
On February 23 2011 04:46 BrodiaQ wrote:
On February 23 2011 04:28 sage_francis wrote:
On February 22 2011 08:25 Horse...falcon wrote:
Hive tech really needed for Zerg vs Mech. Either that or faster infestors out.


Any decent zerg knows that the best response to a mech build is roaches + infestor NP, especially witch so many thors. I try this build some times and get crushed anytime a zerg is doing this unit composition, even with full upgrades.

Idra is a good "muta ling baneling" zerg, and thats it. As he was a good "roache hydras" ultras zerg during the beta ^^


I honestly don't think he saw that Jinro was going mech until it was too late. The only units he ever saw were the thors and it isn't really weird for a standard bio terran to mix in a few thors to deal with muta harass. And his mutas never were able to penetrate deep enough into jinro's base to see that jinro had almost all factories and no barracks. As soon as jinro moved to take his 4th and idra saw his army, idra started the switch to roaches and infestors, even sacking lings to free up supply. I could be wrong but thats what I saw


Well u just pointed out the fact that idra did a poor scout job. Do u really think its so hard to make the difference between mech build and MMtanks build? I guess Grack ignores the fact that overlords can morph into overseers and drop some little things called changeling ^^
As he ignores that roaches are important in ZvT.
Just take a look at dimaga's ZvT, u will quiclky understand that u cant make ling mutas bans every single game vs terran.


apparently you can make it into the round of 8 in the GSL by doing this....


apparently, you cant beat jinro in a BO7 with 1500$ prize pool and the most balanced map pool ever, by doing this....
TheXenocide1
Profile Joined January 2011
United States58 Posts
February 22 2011 21:00 GMT
#4137
On February 23 2011 05:57 sage_francis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 05:43 TheXenocide1 wrote:
On February 23 2011 05:28 sage_francis wrote:
On February 23 2011 04:46 BrodiaQ wrote:
On February 23 2011 04:28 sage_francis wrote:
On February 22 2011 08:25 Horse...falcon wrote:
Hive tech really needed for Zerg vs Mech. Either that or faster infestors out.


Any decent zerg knows that the best response to a mech build is roaches + infestor NP, especially witch so many thors. I try this build some times and get crushed anytime a zerg is doing this unit composition, even with full upgrades.

Idra is a good "muta ling baneling" zerg, and thats it. As he was a good "roache hydras" ultras zerg during the beta ^^


I honestly don't think he saw that Jinro was going mech until it was too late. The only units he ever saw were the thors and it isn't really weird for a standard bio terran to mix in a few thors to deal with muta harass. And his mutas never were able to penetrate deep enough into jinro's base to see that jinro had almost all factories and no barracks. As soon as jinro moved to take his 4th and idra saw his army, idra started the switch to roaches and infestors, even sacking lings to free up supply. I could be wrong but thats what I saw


Well u just pointed out the fact that idra did a poor scout job. Do u really think its so hard to make the difference between mech build and MMtanks build? I guess Grack ignores the fact that overlords can morph into overseers and drop some little things called changeling ^^
As he ignores that roaches are important in ZvT.
Just take a look at dimaga's ZvT, u will quiclky understand that u cant make ling mutas bans every single game vs terran.


apparently you can make it into the round of 8 in the GSL by doing this....


apparently, you cant beat jinro in a BO7 with 1500$ prize pool and the most balanced map pool ever, by doing this....

jinro went to round of 4 so no you cant. Also this:
Jinro: I should have lost that game but i guess that is Terran for you
*Artosis laughs*
Jinro: Its not really that funny...
Fear is the Mind Killer
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 21:15:29
February 22 2011 21:13 GMT
#4138
Idra cant beat Jinro ina showmatch cause he went Ro4 at GSL as idra went only Ro8...

Are u serious?? Did u ever considered their path? The mus they played? On what maps? What pos?

Or maybe ure just a brainless fanboy trying to minimize the very poor performance of his idol by posting bullshits?
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 21:25:05
February 22 2011 21:23 GMT
#4139
It would be appreciated if the VODs were uploaded somewhere else than justin.tv, since it is taking forever to load (literaly, I left it for half an hour and got to see... 4 minutes of the show!). Also update the OP with the links, so we don't have to crawl the 200+ pages of the thread to find them. Thanks
Member of the Pirate Party - direct democracy, institutional transparency, and freedom of information
simme123
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Sweden810 Posts
February 22 2011 21:32 GMT
#4140
On February 22 2011 23:51 Tierfight wrote:
Idra is better player than jinro, because idra has longer dedication korea than jinro has had yet. Also Idra is more intelligent and we can see this in his play. Jinro is just result of hard work.


This makes no sense! Although to be honest I am not a huge fan of either of them, I don't think IdrA is better than Jinro. Zerg is a harder race to play of course but to be honest he's not better if you ask me. IdrA is of course a mechanical beast and is very good with timings. But Jinro really knows how to play his race his choice pretty much always make sense when you think about it. Ah well I am rambling but so were you.
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