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Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
February 22 2011 21:38 GMT
#4141
If anyone saw zenio vs byun in code S today, that's how a zerg should be playing. Not what idra did on that map.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 22 2011 21:42 GMT
#4142
On February 22 2011 09:53 Stoids wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 09:47 Fayth wrote:
30% taxes in the US on any winnings though, and unlike in poker I doubt canadians will be able to recover that


Not like you should be worried about winning anything.

not like I would give a flying shit about winning 40k or w/e
BetterFasterStronger
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States604 Posts
February 22 2011 21:43 GMT
#4143
On February 23 2011 06:38 Vorlik wrote:
If anyone saw zenio vs byun in code S today, that's how a zerg should be playing. Not what idra did on that map.

yeah cause a Round 32 match is the same skill level as a person who repeats round of 4.
But yeah you could prove me wrong and go play like that and get to ro16 code S
Top 200 as Protoss - Switched to Terran. 0-30 against EGiNcontroL... God damnet
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
February 22 2011 21:44 GMT
#4144
If anyone saw zenio vs byun in code S today, that's how a zerg should be playing. Not what idra did on that map.


Except he still lost. :[
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
February 22 2011 21:45 GMT
#4145
I just really hope, that they repost the VODs somewhere else. Scrolling through 50mins of overlay just to have lag make everything unwatchable is pretty terrible.
TheXenocide1
Profile Joined January 2011
United States58 Posts
February 22 2011 21:46 GMT
#4146
On February 23 2011 06:13 sage_francis wrote:
Idra cant beat Jinro ina showmatch cause he went Ro4 at GSL as idra went only Ro8...

Are u serious?? Did u ever considered their path? The mus they played? On what maps? What pos?

Or maybe ure just a brainless fanboy trying to minimize the very poor performance of his idol by posting bullshits?


yeah here was the path jinro took --> beat idra
fine jinro is better, whatever.

You were trying to saw you cannot go muta ling bling every game and do well...obviously you can and get deep in the gsl.
Idra beat [T] Ensnare with this
Idra beat [T]clide with this

and then beat jinro with it in thier first game.
got cheesed the second game with a mechanic that does not exist in the gsl anymore
lost with it on the thrid game trying to attack tanks down a ramp
and then six pooled because jungle basin sucks

so it works alot against good players, including jinro so you cannot say that you cannot do it every game when a terran is going bio
Fear is the Mind Killer
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
February 22 2011 21:47 GMT
#4147
On February 23 2011 04:24 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 03:33 TheBanana wrote:
On February 23 2011 00:14 ondik wrote:
On February 22 2011 19:54 Punkstar wrote:
I recommend watching vods of this showmatch, he was on skype with debo and Cella and it was friggin hillarious !
http://www.justin.tv/burninatingtheforest/b/280131237


lol..who's that main guy? i don't wanna sound racist, but that was some hilarious real ghetto starcraft, rapping wu-tang during the last game.

and haha, my favorite moment:

guy A: "i would really like to know what his income is"
ghetto guy: "he has 4k/2k"
guy A: "no, I mean income"
ghetto guy: "that's the money coming in?"
guy A: "yea.."

:D



I watched some of that and I felt like my braincells were melting.


See I like that, I'd want to hear more from those two. There's enough feminine nerds casting Starcraft, about time we got some real talk on the games. I like watching it but I'm pretty much forced to listen to annoying voices at every big game (with some exceptions) because of how "knowledgeable" they are. I like having options.

I know I'm probably outnumbered on that opinion but fuck it, if you know enough about the game to complain the caster's knowledge, why do you need a caster that can tell you what you already know? I'd rather there be more entertainment value to it personally.

Also first time I heard the word ghetto in like 6 years, good luck with trying to bring that back.


Yeah, when the discussion was up I was one of the people that argumented against game knowledge being important. That was not my issue with these guys. My problem was that my sleeptalking is probably more coherent than their thoughts seemed to be.
Not that they really tried to cast? They just talked shit.
I love it when Rotterdam and Demuslim do it, they are hilarious when they talk about random stuff.
Those guys weren't.
They just melted my brain with ignorance, but I don't really want to make a discussion about it, to each his own.
I know Cella has some good humour, but I don't think he said much unless I'm mixing up who was who.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
TheXenocide1
Profile Joined January 2011
United States58 Posts
February 22 2011 21:50 GMT
#4148
On February 23 2011 06:38 Vorlik wrote:
If anyone saw zenio vs byun in code S today, that's how a zerg should be playing. Not what idra did on that map.


keep pumping ultras and never switch back to broodlords after a ton marauders are made? also keep making infestors after they got EMPed like 8 times?
Fear is the Mind Killer
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
February 22 2011 21:55 GMT
#4149
On February 22 2011 23:51 Tierfight wrote:
Idra is better player than jinro, because idra has longer dedication korea than jinro has had yet. Also Idra is more intelligent and we can see this in his play. Jinro is just result of hard work.


You really can't pretend something and act as if it was the only truth.
Your statements won't bring any reason into a retarded discussion of who is the better player, a discussion which is only driven by personal feelings.

A Sentence like: Idra is more intelligent and we can see this in his play
really just brings hate into the community and will affect the triumphal march of E-Sports in a negative way.
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
February 22 2011 22:01 GMT
#4150
Is there no results section?! ;__;
wat.
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 22:41:12
February 22 2011 22:40 GMT
#4151
On February 22 2011 09:53 Stoids wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 09:47 Fayth wrote:
30% taxes in the US on any winnings though, and unlike in poker I doubt canadians will be able to recover that


Not like you should be worried about winning anything.


HAHAHAHA xD. Did Idra made a new account?
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
February 22 2011 23:07 GMT
#4152
On February 23 2011 06:46 TheXenocide1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 06:13 sage_francis wrote:
Idra cant beat Jinro ina showmatch cause he went Ro4 at GSL as idra went only Ro8...

Are u serious?? Did u ever considered their path? The mus they played? On what maps? What pos?

Or maybe ure just a brainless fanboy trying to minimize the very poor performance of his idol by posting bullshits?


yeah here was the path jinro took --> beat idra
fine jinro is better, whatever.

You were trying to saw you cannot go muta ling bling every game and do well...obviously you can and get deep in the gsl.
Idra beat [T] Ensnare with this
Idra beat [T]clide with this

and then beat jinro with it in thier first game.
got cheesed the second game with a mechanic that does not exist in the gsl anymore
lost with it on the thrid game trying to attack tanks down a ramp
and then six pooled because jungle basin sucks

so it works alot against good players, including jinro so you cannot say that you cannot do it every game when a terran is going bio


Don't waste time arguing with someone retarded. Muta / ling / baneling is the standard unit composition vs bio / tank and every pro zerg has agreed on this since the game started. If Idra lost, maybe it was because he didn't use his units well enough rather than because he didn't get the right units? It would make sense cause Idra plays the game professionally and trains for hours a day....you'd assume he'd know what unit compositions work better than a guy who probably hasn't left platinum yet
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 01:16:11
February 23 2011 01:11 GMT
#4153
rewatched game 6 and Idra made a huge micro mistake saccing tons of banelings on 1 Thor

baneling speed might have helped Idra but I'm not so sure since so many banelings were spent to take down a Thor when he had a huge muta ball that could have done it fast

if Idra didn't sac all those banelings, I think he would have been able to wipe out Jinro's entire attacking force with banelings taking down Jinro's remaining marines and the mutas killing all the tanks.

then again 3/3 marines might have just been good enough to carry Jinro to victory despite what Idra threw at them since Idra had poor upgrades
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
February 23 2011 04:09 GMT
#4154
You need to upgrade your photobucket account, Geoff.

Surely there's some storage space allocated for things like that on nasl.tv? :p
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 23 2011 04:11 GMT
#4155
lol woops I will fix that
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
February 23 2011 04:25 GMT
#4156
See, now that's the kind of quick, professional handling that makes me hopeful for the organisational part of NASL.

:lol
Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
February 23 2011 04:32 GMT
#4157
On February 23 2011 06:50 TheXenocide1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 06:38 Vorlik wrote:
If anyone saw zenio vs byun in code S today, that's how a zerg should be playing. Not what idra did on that map.


keep pumping ultras and never switch back to broodlords after a ton marauders are made? also keep making infestors after they got EMPed like 8 times?


What you mention is how he lost the game, but everything until then was great. So the majority of his play was good, unlike idras on that map. He needs to learn to get hive tech that's all (and more nydus'...)
Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
February 23 2011 04:34 GMT
#4158
On February 23 2011 06:43 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 06:38 Vorlik wrote:
If anyone saw zenio vs byun in code S today, that's how a zerg should be playing. Not what idra did on that map.

yeah cause a Round 32 match is the same skill level as a person who repeats round of 4.
But yeah you could prove me wrong and go play like that and get to ro16 code S


Rounds mean nothing. Are you telling me July vs MC for example is weak because it's Ro32? They're still code S players. Byun is a newer player who's going up the ranks, no one should discredit him.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
February 23 2011 05:03 GMT
#4159
On February 22 2011 07:38 Knutzi wrote:
tt ... replay casting sucks.

dont know why but i just dont feel as excited for replays

i am fairly sure that was live
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 05:05:58
February 23 2011 05:04 GMT
#4160
On February 23 2011 06:38 Vorlik wrote:
If anyone saw zenio vs byun in code S today, that's how a zerg should be playing. Not what idra did on that map.


zenio got owned. repeatedly by emps, marines and marauders. zenio should have lost earlier but byun was fucking around. He even admitted he got cocky and relaxed in his interview.

that game was a prime example of hive tech being too weak, and i felt like getting hive tech didnt necessarily give him a chance to win, rather a chance to drag out the game. obviously this is an emotional and biased reaction, but thats what i was thinking watching that game.

I do agree with you on the idra vs jinro on terminus re, hive tech would have helped, NOT 100% sure it would have won him to game.
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