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Tournament Start Date: 2011-02-08 19:00 UTC+1
Check in Starts at: 18:30 UTC+1
Duration: 1 Month | 08.02.2011 - 10.03.2011
Tournament Name: 4Players Cup Series
Upcoming Cup URL: http://4pl.4players.de/index.php/Cup:info/843/SC_II_Final_Tournament__23.html
Organizer: 4Players Liga
Sponsor(s): -
Sponsor URL: -
Location: Bnet EU
Prizes: Close Combat Cup: 4x100€ | "Small" Close Combat Cup: 4x25€ | Monthly Final: 1000€
Entry Requirements: Qualified
Status: Closed
Registration for Upcoming Tournament: http://4pl.4players.de/index.php/Cup:info/843/SC_II_Final_Tournament__23.html
Format: 1v1 (128 - 512)
Ladies and Gentlemen
The Final Cup has arrived. On Thursday 10.03.2011 the main event of this month will take place. During the last couple of weeks, player gathered qualification points in order to get their ticket to this very Thursday. Now the chances are gone and the final set of players is set:
Nerchio
DieStar
virusUnderdark
dignitas.SeleCT
slider.309
Fargo
SjoW
Wilko.
iNSoLeNCE
ESC.GoOdy
mouzHasu
Delphi
lalush
Pomidor
dignitasmerz
Shokgal
H4Nfy
mTwDIMAGA
Rmdx!
mouzStrelok
Zhosay
ieS.Tefel
7x.control
TMC.Druzdil
Basher007
XPacT!
PraetorianiiNightEnD
Serashin
Empire.ho8ot
Drafter
EmpireBly
Avire
This is the Line Up for the BO3 Only tournament on Thursday. As you can see underneath: The finalists can call themselves the winner of overall €1000 prize money. (and of course also an achievement on our website ^^)
Final Cup Winner: 600€
2nd Place: 300€
3rd Place: 100€
Hope you will be there, watching one of the casts which will be available and announced soon.
Additional Information
IRC: #4PL.TURNIER.SC2
Ranking Information
Usage of the Matchlobby System
Video Tutorial of the Matchlobby (Activcate English subs)
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How will the distribution in the Monthly Final be? Please don't tell me winner takes it all.
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i really liked the top3 prize money distribution for the weekly cups 4pl had so far.. too bad theyre changing system :[
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Why can't they make the whole website english aswell? Nice pricepool
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The Prize money of the final will be divided between the top 3 players.
How exactly the money will be divided is still in discussion. But you can be sure the winner gets a mayor part of the cake.
The reason for changing the system was, that many people knew we exist but still we didn't reach our expectations. Therefore we decided on changing the system and increasing the long term competition within our cup series aswell as the attention which causes winning a cup of ours.
We are aware of the problem with our German website. We are working on a proper solution for that problem already a while. Of course we have to ensure that, when we make an official translation, it has to join some changes in our overal website structure. That's why it takes some time.
Until then we offer English support within IRC, the tutorials in English and, which might be quite useful aswell, the google translation of the website.
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^ If you talk about how well your known internationally is, I dont think that is related to the prize destribution.
The tournament was simply not advertised enough on any english speaking sites. And the german web site didnt help I guess. There was one thread on TL, but people tend to overlook that. It needs to be on the TL calendar.
And most importantly, there was no english streamer (at least that I know of).
Your old prize money distribution was great imo, at least for the players.
And I always enjoyed the 4PL cups. Although it is not that well known, there were many great players in it.
On the other hand a monthly final could indeed make the cup even more exciting. And I guess a ranking system also means that you will do a seeding for your weekly cups. That would be a big improvement as well.
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Yep you are right. We try to improve that aswell.
Currently I'm in charge of advertising in English. I know we have to be more present on other sites and I will ensure in the next months that this will be improved alot.
When it comes to an English caster, we will also check the possibilities we have.
Our goal is to be known as the 2nd force in SC2 E-sports. So far: Our prize mone is already top but our marketing and structure needs some imrpovements: That's what we are on !
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same system like go4sc2 now. Not bad, but maybe the normal cups will loose some attention
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I also liked the old distribution more as it is simply more fair for the players. Imo the monthly final at the ESL sucks for that reason because in a final that ends 3-2 the winner takes it all whereas the second place (in a usually tough grid) is left with nothing. So the 4pl was much more advanced here. I think the problems lie somewhere else. First a lot of players do complain about the low pace in which the tournament progresses, second there was usually just a german caster with a presumably exclusive license (mostly HomerJ) so its clear that it is not exactly aspiring to follow the tourney for an international audience.
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Well he said they will distribute the monthly final prize between the top 3. Also its twice a sbig as go4sc2. :D
So in the respect its already better. 
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also liked the old distribution better. the reason why your tournament was not very well known internationally is that you a) didnt advertise very well, b) the tournament system and website is the worst out of all cups available and c) the site is in german and people just dont get what they have to do most of the time and ask their opponents (who are already annoyed at being asked how to report like 5+ times EVERY single tournament. i personally did not have the impression that the english tutorial helped much with that.
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Yes but I do not like the tendency that we can witness right now (same with Craft cup) to lower the money in the weekly cups and then make a big monthly as te numbers of players that get rewarded is way lower.
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in my opinion the poblem is not the system, irs te website. Most likely i wanna see a cupwebsite like the on of craft cup which is so easy and also very easy for coverage
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I totally see your point there. That is why we still keep the 100€ prize money at CCC, add 25€ to Community Cup and also progress with the TA Cup as it was.
Anyway: The 1000€ of the final will be split up over the first three places. Otherwise it won't make sense to have a match for 3rd place because no one wants to play it when there is no prize for it.
This changed structure gives us also more possibilities for marketing strategies. A campaign in English introducing the final cup will give us a lot of attention.
Seriously: A player telling someone that he won a 4PL CCC didn't mean a lot in the past months. Of course this is also due to our rather small attention when it comes to international advertisement and casting. But also because of the high frequency of cups. The more cups we offered the less a single cup victory was worth. This is what we want to change in the future. 4PL Cups shall stay for everyone but we also want to gain some kind of exclusiveness - at least for the final cup.
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The website is something we are constantly working on. There will be changes in the future - I can tell you that one. ^^
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Besides: When the majority of players tells us that they dislike the new structure and that they would prefer the old one we will seriously discuss this topic.
We are open to comments and advices from the community - we even wish you to discuss this and clarify the pros and cons of it.
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UPDATE:
Final Cup Winner: 600€
2nd Place: 300€
3rd Place: 100€
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How about overhauling the map pool and add some Iccup/GSL ones? I think this area also needs some improvement. Maybe you should discuss this with some selected Pros.
The money split for the finals looks nice btw.
Apart from that thans alot for listening to community feedback.
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