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[IEM] European Championship Finals - Kiev, Ukraine - Page 4

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DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
January 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#61
There are good players in there, But TvT is so boring . And why no zerg


Because unlike the black dragon league (in which the only zergs were invited i believe because they didnt win any qualifiers), this one was just qualifiers, is my guess.

Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
Zacsafus
Profile Joined May 2010
England255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 21:42:21
January 17 2011 21:41 GMT
#62
Wow no zerg, i guess european terrans rly are the boss! Shame that there iusnt many accomplished european zergs, i mean darkforce is pretty good but not on the same level as these guys quite yet, and ret is in korea, tho i wud have expected dimaga there or morrow
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 17 2011 21:42 GMT
#63
whitera gonna take this shiz.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 17 2011 21:45 GMT
#64
No zergies =(. Atleast white-ra is in. It'll be him or kas that wins
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 17 2011 21:45 GMT
#65
On January 18 2011 06:41 Zacsafus wrote:
Wow no zerg, i guess european terrans rly are the boss! Shame that there iusnt many accomplished european zergs, i mean darkforce is pretty good but not on the same level as these guys quite yet, and ret is in korea, tho i wud have expected dimaga there or morrow


the funny thing is that Europe have alot of good Zergs, like Dimaga, TLO, MorroW, DarkForcE, Lalush, DabOo, Zpux ect ect
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
FreedonNadd
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria573 Posts
January 17 2011 21:46 GMT
#66
I love to see many of them playing, but the race stats looks soooo boring, so many T. Not even one Zerg? TvT starts annoying after the 3rd game of tanks and vikings slowly inching forward. Go Ra and Demu !
Some people wear Superman pajamas, but Superman has Day[9] pajamas.
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
January 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#67
the funny thing is that Europe have alot of good Zergs, like Dimaga, TLO, MorroW, DarkForcE, Lalush, DabOo, Zpux ect ec


Exactly, they just... never win any tournaments (or the qualifiers apparently, could anyone correct me if im wrong about the black dragon league zergs being 100 percent invited?)
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 21:52:32
January 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#68
On January 18 2011 06:45 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 06:41 Zacsafus wrote:
Wow no zerg, i guess european terrans rly are the boss! Shame that there iusnt many accomplished european zergs, i mean darkforce is pretty good but not on the same level as these guys quite yet, and ret is in korea, tho i wud have expected dimaga there or morrow


the funny thing is that Europe have alot of good Zergs, like Dimaga, TLO, MorroW, DarkForcE, Lalush, DabOo, Zpux ect ect


I don't think Europe has that many top Tier. Only really Dimaga and maybe TLO/Morrow/Darkforce. The rest are really good but aren't top tier like the T/P guys. There's a difference between top tier and being really good.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#69
All of the best GSL matches have been TvT, this tourney will probably have fewer all-ins than any SC2 tourney yet.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#70
On January 18 2011 06:49 DamnCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
the funny thing is that Europe have alot of good Zergs, like Dimaga, TLO, MorroW, DarkForcE, Lalush, DabOo, Zpux ect ec


Exactly, they just... never win any tournaments (or the qualifiers apparently, could anyone correct me if im wrong about the black dragon league zergs being 100 percent invited?)



3 of each race were invited, and then 2 protoss and 4 terran qualified I believe?
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
January 17 2011 22:01 GMT
#71
To anyone that's unfamiliar with the Intel Extreme Masters:

The European Championship has started a few months ago with 24 players competing in it in an online group stage (before that we had national and international qualification).

There were several Zerg and Protoss players in here, many others have failed to qualify this far:

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/europe_sc2/

This is what a "natural selection" of players throughout the tournament has brought us: 10 Ts and 2 Ps. While we would prefer a more balanced race distribution, those are the best players in the tournament so far. Each of those 12 players has played 5 or more matches to get to the live final.

Like it or not, this reflects the state of the game in Europe over the months that have gone by. We would rather wait for the balance of the game to change than to discriminate against players who have earned their place among the 12 best in the continent fair and square.
www.intelextrememasters.com
wxwx
Profile Joined May 2010
527 Posts
January 17 2011 22:03 GMT
#72
wow what a horrible race distribution.. I hope this is a rare occurence, because if it gets any worse, we'll be seeing an all-terran tournament.
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
January 17 2011 22:05 GMT
#73
A protoss better win this!

White-Ra has shown so good results lately, he is back in shape and ready to once again dominate the European scene.
@Munck
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 22:15:13
January 17 2011 22:10 GMT
#74
Theres a good chance the GSL semifinals will be + Show Spoiler +
3 terrans 1 Zerg
again as well.
FnaticNaama
Profile Joined February 2010
Finland120 Posts
January 17 2011 22:17 GMT
#75
I think scheduling this tournament might be a pain in the ass because tvts can last soooo loong
Naama - Dreamhack 2010 Champion and a proud creator of naama scv train and naama wall-in
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 17 2011 22:29 GMT
#76
On January 18 2011 07:03 wxwx wrote:
wow what a horrible race distribution.. I hope this is a rare occurence, because if it gets any worse, we'll be seeing an all-terran tournament.

Since this qualification there has already been a big shift. Protoss is doing much better now in the euro tournaments, winning bascially as much, maybe even more then the terrans. Only zerg is still rarely seen in the final of tournaments.
Off-season = best season
Beside_kr
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada902 Posts
January 17 2011 22:45 GMT
#77
it should be noted that qualification for this began shortly after release when zerg was having a very difficult time against terran thus most zergs weren't able to win their national cups and those that did were eliminated in the qualifying rounds.
Cuffs, cuffs, you can't break those cuffs
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
January 17 2011 22:52 GMT
#78
If I was to type exactly what I thought of this race distribution, I'd get temp-banned.
Instead: good luck Socke, White-Ra and DeMusliM
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
January 17 2011 22:53 GMT
#79
How can Kas be a favourite at the same time as a darkhorse?
Are you human?
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
January 17 2011 23:17 GMT
#80
On January 18 2011 06:51 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 06:45 SmoKim wrote:
On January 18 2011 06:41 Zacsafus wrote:
Wow no zerg, i guess european terrans rly are the boss! Shame that there iusnt many accomplished european zergs, i mean darkforce is pretty good but not on the same level as these guys quite yet, and ret is in korea, tho i wud have expected dimaga there or morrow


the funny thing is that Europe have alot of good Zergs, like Dimaga, TLO, MorroW, DarkForcE, Lalush, DabOo, Zpux ect ect


I don't think Europe has that many top Tier. Only really Dimaga and maybe TLO/Morrow/Darkforce. The rest are really good but aren't top tier like the T/P guys. There's a difference between top tier and being really good.

this is a non-argument. Like saying that there are not that many asian bballers in NBA because there are not that many top tier asian bballers. While true the real issues are the causes underlining that.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
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