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On December 30 2010 00:09 cuppatea wrote: They could have spread the talent out a little more evenly, NesTea's team shits all over the other 2 on paper (and in-game today). Kinda agree. It certainly doesn't SEEM balanced.
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On December 29 2010 20:47 Debonair wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 20:45 ryc wrote: All this talk doesn't change the fact that these three minute games are stupid to watch. What's the point of designing units other than marines and SCVs if all ins are no longer a gamble, but a viable strategy that can be utilized EVERY GAME? Working as intended. + Show Spoiler +
I think you're supposed to troll in the spoiler as well. This is just trolling with an "excuse"
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On December 29 2010 23:40 QuantumTheory wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 23:38 McDonalds wrote:On December 29 2010 23:33 syllogism wrote: Most koreans consider MVP the best terran so So? He's on the top of the ladder. It should be pretty obvious that a lot of those people are people who think that the ladder matters and a lot of the rest are people who just repeat what the first group said. MVP is good and everything but who cares what netizens think. Why do you think MVP being #1 on the ladder is the only premise for why Koreans think he's good? Perhaps he's won a bunch of smaller tournaments over there lately, I don't know. That wasn't really what I said, though. Anyway let's not forget that MKP for example has gone Ro2, Ro2 and Ro8 in the last three major events. It's all well and good if MVP has won a lot of minor events but in the end "most Koreans" aren't going to be watching or paying quite as much attention to those. In the absence of any really notable wins it seems a lot more convenient to just point out the ridiculous number of points he has. It certainly happens often around here.
On December 29 2010 23:40 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 23:38 McDonalds wrote:On December 29 2010 23:33 syllogism wrote: Most koreans consider MVP the best terran so So? He's on the top of the ladder. It should be pretty obvious that a lot of those people are people who think that the ladder matters and a lot of the rest are people who just repeat what the first group said. MVP is good and everything but who cares what netizens think. It's not just the netizens though Yeah, I'm sure you could find some quotes by some other GSL qualifiers or whatever saying that they think MVP is the best. But I thought we were talking about Koreans, not THE KOREANS. Commentators and stuff don't really make up the bulk of the community.
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On December 29 2010 23:27 bearhug wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 23:09 QuantumTheory wrote:On December 29 2010 23:04 Nimic wrote: Yeah, Mvp is terrible, Terran is just imba.
That makes sense. What, if you're referring to me that's not what I'm saying at all. Mvp is great and I think deserves a lot more credit than FoxeR does. I think Mvp is about to usher in another meta game shift in TvZ, and in my opinion this composition is insanely hard to stop in the hands of someone whose not dumb. Idk, if I came off as Mvp is terrible and Terran is imba then no, that's not what I meant. MK(a top player) > MVP(a good player).
Whenever I look at both players, I think they are both very good and top players. But I am more impressed by MVP so far.
On December 29 2010 23:29 Drazzzt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 23:27 Rouel wrote:On December 29 2010 23:26 Drazzzt wrote:On December 29 2010 23:24 De4ngus wrote: Lol wow that was better than any of the TvPs i saw in GSL. U didn't see MC's PvTs, did u? I agree with him. MC just rolled his opponents (which was awesome). Against foxer there were some closer games and the second (or first) game against Rain on lost temple was pretty epic and definitely no rolling over.
The game on Lost Temple was definately good. But it also shows that Rain was just the far weaker player because he lost that game after MC went for 4 Gate all tech trees on one base. 
On December 29 2010 23:44 zerious wrote: I have no problem being both fans of MVP and MKP, I am a bigger fan of MVP though because I followed him in BW, so I have some kind of attachment.
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On December 29 2010 23:59 Asha` wrote: MvP is so good, still a few questions about his TvP I think but damn he's just really really good at everything lol
That's exactly my opinion. I saw him rise again in the last few months before SC2 came out and he now shows that he was a very good bw player just before he switched (not like Boxer and Nada; their time was over). Im really really happy to see him rock on in SC2.
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On December 30 2010 00:03 koppik wrote:Fruitdealer's team was definitely the underdog here. It'll be interesting to see MC vs NesTea's team, though. NesTea has some strong-as-hell Terrans, but MC should neutralize that. Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 23:42 wxwx wrote: Why does Foxer still have fanboys? I thought it was already agreed upon that he needs to prove himself in the macro game before considered a top player. Foxer's macro is good. People just complain about his lack of diversity in his TvZ. I think it's partially him "playing for the fans" than anything else. He promised he'd win Season 2 "using marines" and named himself "MarineKingPrime". It's kind of hard for him to branch out away from marine-heavy play.
Would be exciting to see MC against MVP, although MVP's TvP isn't as hot as his TvZ
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On December 29 2010 23:54 Telos wrote:My All Starz KOTH Day 1 Results:Team NesTea vs Team FruitDealer + Show Spoiler + MakaPrime 2-0 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png) TSL_Pretty MakaPrime 2-0 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png) TSL_FruitDealer ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.png) MakaPrime 1-2 PipiJung IMMvp 2-0 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.png) PipiJung IMMvp 2-0 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png) IMLosirA IMMvp 2-1 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.png) TSL_Pooh Team NesTea 5-1 Team FruitDealer Hopefully OP gets updated with this soon.
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Lol team nestea, only terrans got to play for this team..
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MK and MVP both are monsters, it's hard to tell who is best. I'd say MK has a better vP, and MVP a better vZ (more solid at least). Both are just exceptionnal players.
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Both MvP and MK could have all killed FruitDealer's team.
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How the hell did Nestea's team get BOTH MarineKingPrime AND MvP??? Best two terrans in the world atm.
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MvP is his teammate. He beat MKP in GSL S2 Finals. Maybe they became friends after that. And then MKP somehow drags his clan into this ? :D
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mvp took a game of Flash once... he is obviously the best :D...
and arguments like this are obviously very useful...
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any games u guys would recommend other than game #2 and #5?
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Where can I find the vod's for todays games?
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On December 30 2010 03:37 rodderN wrote: Where can I find the vod's for todays games?
opening post has link to the vods
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On December 30 2010 00:09 cuppatea wrote: They could have spread the talent out a little more evenly, NesTea's team shits all over the other 2 on paper (and in-game today).
The winners pick their teammates. NesTea has a good eye for talent lol.
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On December 30 2010 06:48 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2010 00:09 cuppatea wrote: They could have spread the talent out a little more evenly, NesTea's team shits all over the other 2 on paper (and in-game today). The winners pick their teammates. NesTea has a good eye for talent lol. or,
NesTea picked first because he's a hogger :D
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On December 30 2010 00:09 cuppatea wrote: They could have spread the talent out a little more evenly, NesTea's team shits all over the other 2 on paper (and in-game today).
mc's team is fairly solid on paper too, but we'll have to see what happens between those two teams. mc is capable of destroying nestea's entire lineup and i think leenock is one of the only zergs that could actually give mvp a hard time. and then jinro, top, inca are all insanely strong players in their own right
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jinro is playing tonight hopefully he can do better than idra did
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are the vods working for anybody? For me it just keeps loading forever. Or is there another source than the ones mentioned in the op? I would really like to see those mvp games.
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