clide > choya
mvp > cezanne
choya > mvp
cezanne > clide
cezanne > choya
clide > mvp
Clide and Cezanne advances.
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Garnet
Vietnam9001 Posts
clide > choya mvp > cezanne choya > mvp cezanne > clide cezanne > choya clide > mvp Clide and Cezanne advances. | ||
MoreFaSho
United States1427 Posts
On December 21 2010 18:15 ParasitJonte wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2010 00:37 MoreFasho wrote: On December 17 2010 00:07 ParasitJonte wrote: On December 16 2010 22:15 IdrA wrote: i dunno i havent played him/seen him play in forever you can do just about anything you want and beat zerg right now though it doesnt really matter Funny, I guess the actual win statistics are lying then. I'm not saying it's balanced, but perhaps you should consider expressing yourself more intelligently rather than simply provoking responses. If the ID was removed from the post, I'm sure moderators would either warn or temp ban you for that comment. I know, it's almost as if accomplishments can earn you respect, what bullshit here on TL. It's totally different for some random 1500 diamond noob to QQ than a really strong professional gamer in korea. I'm not saying idra is always right, but he has done something to earn the right to bitch about stuff. No. Arguably it's much, much, much worse. There's been several debates about why especially progamers should refrain from QQing. And no, even if a nobel prize winner came into my house and told me "it's obvious like this, idiot" I wouldn't believe him until he showed me why. You've got strange opinions. Keep trusting the authorities. Statistics aren't going to show you this. You're like a first grader trying to have Feynman teach you how the special theory of relatively affect electricity and magnetism, you don't have the base to understand the problem. Statistics are an approach that is a great way of approximating the issue for those who can't argue it from more basic principles. (in this example, if your mechanics are bad, your race will always seem UP) As for my "trust of authority", I was merely pointing out that strong players can get away with more without getting banned, not that everything they say is true. Edit: Also, they SHOULD be able to get away with more, just to be clear. | ||
Ner0
United States131 Posts
Why is Clide so good? | ||
Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
Impressive. I guess oGs has seen something in him :p | ||
Asha
United Kingdom38056 Posts
Clide vs Cezanne: Jungle Basin + Show Spoiler + Cezanne takes a 15 hatch, while Clide drops a rax and then FE's behind it. Clide opting to get a factory and uses his second rax to wall in with before pushing out with a small marine force. Cezanne has plenty of lings out though and defends it easily, he's also got a baneling nest going down. Cezanne's turn to push with a baneling bust on clide's wall, it obliterates it and lings flood in. Clide holds it off with Hellions but not before there's been a lot of damage done. Clide gets his wall down again, but no sooner has it finished than another bust breaks through and things look really bad for Clide. Blueflame is done for clide's hellions however and he cleans it up again There's a roach warren down for Cezanne, and a starport for clide. Clide pushes forward with hellions but is met by a roach wall at Cezanne's ramp. Clide brings down a medivac to drop his hellions between the main and nat and does a little harass. Cezanne with an inbase hatch and is getting muta's out, Clide up to 5 rax and is starting to bring out siege tanks instead of the early game hellions. Muta harass from Cezanne followed up by an attack on Clide's back rocks, Lings and Roaches flood in to Clide's nat while Muta's distract from the other side of his main. Cezanne has taken a third during this. Clide pushes forwards to Cezanne's third which is heavily defended with lings/banes/roaches, the situation looks bad for him but he manages to micro back into range of his siege tanks and they do massive damage to the zerg forces plowing forward allowing Clide to wipe out the third. Not particularly good decision making from Cezanne, but he has reexpanded on the other side of the map. Clide pushes out and crushes the third again, Creep has almost reached Clide's front door. Muta harass is thinning out Clide's natural which has really not had a whole lot mined from it considering it's been up almost the whole game. Cezanne getting his third up yet again. Clide pushes out down the centre but his tanks aren't sieged up fast enough to catch the zerg at range and he gets overwhelmed by the massive forces of the swarm. Don't think he ever really recovered from that early Baneling bust that put him a sizeable way behind. Cezanne almost managed to throw away his lead on a number of occasions, but good harass kept Clide stretched pretty thin and he eventually took the win. Cezanne vs Choya: Metalopolis + Show Spoiler + Close positions on Meta, Choya pylon blocks cezannes ramp...it's a cannon rush. Cezanne gets spinecrawlers and a pool down and has somewhat fended it off, cannons and pylons not cleaned up and a probe in the base, but nothing actually in range of the zerg forces now. There's a baneling nest down for cezanne, while Choya is adding an extra gate to wall off completely. Cezanne breaks out and counter attacks, perfectly timed Sentry from Choya splits the lings in front of his wall and a cannon cleans the trapped ones up. Cezanne expands, meanwhile a Stargate and additional gates are going down for Choya. Choya pushes with a gateway/voidray force but is thrown back decisively by some mass queen action. Choya expands behind it, Cezanne getting hydras There's a bit of a standoff, choya is getting a robo. Cezanne decides to push with hydra/ling and brings some queens along to the party. Choya has a few cannons down defending his nat and his forces are more than enough to fend it off convincingly. Cezanne takes his gold, and his creep has spread all the way to choyas natural. choya scouts the gold and his first colossus pops out. Cezanne has been reinforcing with roaches rather than his hydra mix early though. Cezanne preparing a baneling drop, Choya pushing out once his third colossus arrives, but the baneling drop is smack bang on choya's forces and he gets flattened. He's also pushing Cezanne's gold expo though and Cezanne is forced to bring his forces to defend it rather than push back at Choya's nat. Not sure what Cezanne is doing, he's just let Choya drag at least 20 roaches around almost the whole map with 2 wounded stalkers. It doesn't matter though, the numbers from the last attack tell and when Cezanne does finally push towards the Nat it's GG. Cezanne goes through, and Choya is out. Clide vs MvP: Lost Temple + Show Spoiler + Lost temple, MvP spawns at 9 and Clide at 3. MvP rax/fact and fast siege tanks. Clide has chosen to take a fast expansion, MvP getting a starport down. Brief skirmish in the middle of the map which MvP comes out on top of granting him a bit of map control. 2 Tank drop inc at Clide's nat and MvP has to be feeling pretty happy with this start. Clide has vikings out and uses them to clean up the medivac and give sight for his own tanks to hit up to the ledge, pretty sure he landed them to clean up but we cut away because MvP has a big push inc at the natural. Clide holds it off though with tanks, scv's, and landed vikings and it really doesn't do a lot of damage (he's only 5 scv's down). Clide pushing back and has restored control of half the map. He sieges up below the ledge outside MvP's main and is using vikings for sight again; he's doing a lot of damage to buildings and MvP can't get close enough with Bio so has to start inching his tanks forward along the flank. Clide using his vikings really well, drops them onto MvP's tank line to clean that threat up before hopping back to the skies to sight for his tanks. He starts pushing with them into MvP's main and brings along a medivac to start elevator lifting units up to the top, he pushes in further and MvP doesn't seem to have anything left. It's GG and Clide goes through, while MvP is out. ==== I like how having said I felt more confident about Ret vs Cezanne in Code A after Cezannes first match, he then takes out Choya and Clide >< | ||
m3ss
Hungary28 Posts
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Ner0
United States131 Posts
On December 21 2010 23:17 m3ss wrote: is there any way to rewatch these games? ty It'll be under the latest videos here: http://www.livestream.com/nero22 , and also available on the website in the OP. Thanks Asha for the write-ups! | ||
m3ss
Hungary28 Posts
the latest (dec21) videos on ur site are still being uploaded i guess? koz its all black, when is it up? ty nero btw | ||
kidd
United States2848 Posts
On December 21 2010 23:12 Asha` wrote: I like how having said I felt more confident about Ret vs Cezanne in Code A after Cezannes first match, he then takes out Choya and Clide >< Not in very dominating fashion though lol. He played fairly well, but they were just some strange games and big mistakes were made by the other players. | ||
ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On December 21 2010 22:40 MoreFasho wrote: Show nested quote + On December 21 2010 18:15 ParasitJonte wrote: On December 18 2010 00:37 MoreFasho wrote: On December 17 2010 00:07 ParasitJonte wrote: On December 16 2010 22:15 IdrA wrote: i dunno i havent played him/seen him play in forever you can do just about anything you want and beat zerg right now though it doesnt really matter Funny, I guess the actual win statistics are lying then. I'm not saying it's balanced, but perhaps you should consider expressing yourself more intelligently rather than simply provoking responses. If the ID was removed from the post, I'm sure moderators would either warn or temp ban you for that comment. I know, it's almost as if accomplishments can earn you respect, what bullshit here on TL. It's totally different for some random 1500 diamond noob to QQ than a really strong professional gamer in korea. I'm not saying idra is always right, but he has done something to earn the right to bitch about stuff. No. Arguably it's much, much, much worse. There's been several debates about why especially progamers should refrain from QQing. And no, even if a nobel prize winner came into my house and told me "it's obvious like this, idiot" I wouldn't believe him until he showed me why. You've got strange opinions. Keep trusting the authorities. Statistics aren't going to show you this. You're like a first grader trying to have Feynman teach you how the special theory of relatively affect electricity and magnetism, you don't have the base to understand the problem. Statistics are an approach that is a great way of approximating the issue for those who can't argue it from more basic principles. (in this example, if your mechanics are bad, your race will always seem UP) As for my "trust of authority", I was merely pointing out that strong players can get away with more without getting banned, not that everything they say is true. And I was merely pointing out that what he wrote was stupid and total bullshit. | ||
Arccotangent
519 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Interesting that there have been no 3-0's or 0-3's in these round robins. | ||
Ner0
United States131 Posts
On December 21 2010 23:23 Ner0 wrote: It'll be under the latest videos here: http://www.livestream.com/nero22 , and also available on the website in the OP. Thanks Asha for the write-ups! Just wanted to say that I cleaned up the VODs and everything is labeled now. Good job on OP for keeping team names and the correct races, guess tlpd needs an update? | ||
Baffels
United States1486 Posts
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Reptilia
Chile913 Posts
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
On December 23 2010 10:48 Reptilia wrote: this means YGosu invitational and GOMTV's Gisado will stream at same time -.-? I second this. I am getting confused, are they exactly the same time? | ||
Baffels
United States1486 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
On December 23 2010 12:34 Xxavi wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2010 10:48 Reptilia wrote: this means YGosu invitational and GOMTV's Gisado will stream at same time -.-? I second this. I am getting confused, are they exactly the same time? It appears so. Gisado is on GOM and Ygosu is on Daum, but they start at the same time. Tonight is ZvP though, so the only player affected is FruitDealer. | ||
Baffels
United States1486 Posts
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
On December 23 2010 13:06 Baffels wrote: Also Zenio played last night and isn't even listed as participating in the Gisado....weird This. That's confusing as well. | ||
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