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On December 10 2010 19:39 dOofuS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 19:37 SmoKim wrote:On December 10 2010 19:36 geez wrote:On December 10 2010 19:35 MichaelZon wrote: Is there any restream? Gomtv is lagging for me. anyone that even suggests watching a re-stream, does not only NOT support e-sports, but should also be banned from this forum. you would beg for a re-stream if Gomtv stream was lagging/full for you, stop trying to act holy Pay for the premium, I have experienced no lag at all on the HQ stream this season.
Try living in the EU. For some reason GOM hates us/can't sort out streaming to us.
Besides, the VLC is legal.
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Need a restream plz
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cross positionis are good for jinro!
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Cross position shakuras, cmon now Jinro, this "got" to be a longer macro-game for the sake of all terran-players out there!
Hell, if MC keeps owning like that all the foundations of my anti terran QQ are shattered.
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very likely to see a 4 gate from MC since he might not want to go macro game vs jinro. Build on his momentum
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On December 10 2010 19:38 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 19:37 goto wrote:On December 10 2010 19:35 CanucksJC wrote:On December 10 2010 19:35 goto wrote: This is border line cheese because there are no answers for Terran if Protoss knows the timing.
Ask minigun about this. He's saying the same thing. Still doesn't make it a cheese in any shape or form... Just really good early pressure that can end the game. It's "borderline cheese" because it's abusing a broken game mechanic, the same with Terran 2 Rax pressure. Blizzard should get their act together. "borderline cheese" makes no sense. some would consider it cheese, most would not. there's no clearly defined limit for what is cheese.
I consider it "borderline cheese", alas, it's just my opinion and I do not expect anyone to share it. However, from personal experience as a Terran, from the minigun interview, and from watching the GSL right now, it's clear to me that something is broken here.
Anyone who thinks "building early ghosts" is the answer has never played Terran before.
minigun: Correct, If I lose a game PVT, you can bet on it that I lost in the later stages of the game, but it had nothing to do with the 1 gate FE.
interview: http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/13912-meet-the-man-at-the-top-of-the-na-ladder
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On December 10 2010 19:41 Ocedic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 19:38 DeathNTaxes wrote:On December 10 2010 19:35 HeIios wrote:On December 10 2010 19:34 DeathNTaxes wrote: MC isnt winning because he is better, he is winning because his build is better. SC2 is too much about build orders. This makes absolutely no sense, are these build orders executing themselves? Of course not, but the build order is so simple that i, a 1500 diamond player, could use it and own any terran that 2 rax expos. Okay buddy, go to Korea and win GSL then. Or get into the Ro64 at least.
It appears as if you missed my first point entirely, please read my original post.
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Could the losses be owed to the possible fact that the korean guy may have better team to analyze the adversary? seems like MC knows better in advance what to do to Jinro...
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On December 10 2010 19:33 Heimatloser wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 19:31 On_Slaught wrote:On December 10 2010 19:28 Mr. Nefarious wrote: GSL3 = cheese. Thanks Blizzard for making early rushes the best thing possible. So entertaining watch. At this rate they should just revert the reaper and all games could be finished by the five minute mark. I really hope they take a long, hard look at the early game. This is absolute garbage. There wasn't any cheese in these first 2 games (the closest thing to it was the proxy fact from Jinro). The ignorance of this post disgusts me. cheese = strategical play to get an advantage during the first 3-5 minutes (phase of the game where u should build up economy)
what a horrible definition.
g1. jinro sent out a hellion to attack probe. This is fail cheese play? So by def, both players cheesed. g2. No one attacked in the first 3-5 minutes. So, by def, there was no cheese.
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WHATTTTT? A sword? Amazing.
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On December 10 2010 19:36 clickrush wrote: MC just has balls and plays aggressively. If Jinro did a wallin in set one, and a banshee or ghost opening in set 2 then it would play out very different.
You're skipping over the fact MC had the watchtower when jinro moved out with some marine + MARAUDERS to take map control, he knew early cloak was more or less off the table, probably even more so since he likely knows jinro very well.
His early opener was your normal early sentries to be safe, im not 100% sure on this, but i feel like its logically safe to say that _AFTER_ he saw the marauders, he placed the 2 extra gates and went into 3 gate expand. after no pressure from jinro, it was logical that he was doing either 1 or 2 rax expo (as opposed to 3 rax, where the terran would 100% pressure atleast to your natural), hence he knew a timing in which terran was incredibly weak to heavy FF abuse (another reason why the 6 early sentries to build energy was brilliant), and he hit that timing perfectly. I feel that if he didnt see jinro move out to take map control, he would've gone 1 or 2 gate robo, or even 3 gate with a earlyish robo (right before or right after placing the nexus).
It was basically a combination of perfectly reading his opponent, and knowing the timings so well that near guarantee'd him a win against jinro's build.
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On December 10 2010 19:41 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 19:39 dOofuS wrote:On December 10 2010 19:37 SmoKim wrote:On December 10 2010 19:36 geez wrote:On December 10 2010 19:35 MichaelZon wrote: Is there any restream? Gomtv is lagging for me. anyone that even suggests watching a re-stream, does not only NOT support e-sports, but should also be banned from this forum. you would beg for a re-stream if Gomtv stream was lagging/full for you, stop trying to act holy Pay for the premium, I have experienced no lag at all on the HQ stream this season. Try living in the EU. For some reason GOM hates us/can't sort out streaming to us. Besides, the VLC is legal. Aye, it's annoying and the main reason I didn't pay for a season ticket. They really should fix that.
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On December 10 2010 19:39 geez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 19:37 SmoKim wrote:On December 10 2010 19:36 geez wrote:On December 10 2010 19:35 MichaelZon wrote: Is there any restream? Gomtv is lagging for me. anyone that even suggests watching a re-stream, does not only NOT support e-sports, but should also be banned from this forum. you would beg for a re-stream if Gomtv stream was lagging/full for you, stop trying to act holy I'm not acting holy. If for some reason the stream is lagging for you, then watch the VOD's a little bit later. If you haven't even paid for the premium then you have no reason to speak at all. You obviously don't care about e-sports at all, so why are you even trying to watch?
Are all the mp3s/video files on your computer legit? Do you watch porn without paying for the official downloads? Not everybody is perfect.
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On December 10 2010 19:41 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 19:39 dOofuS wrote:On December 10 2010 19:37 SmoKim wrote:On December 10 2010 19:36 geez wrote:On December 10 2010 19:35 MichaelZon wrote: Is there any restream? Gomtv is lagging for me. anyone that even suggests watching a re-stream, does not only NOT support e-sports, but should also be banned from this forum. you would beg for a re-stream if Gomtv stream was lagging/full for you, stop trying to act holy Pay for the premium, I have experienced no lag at all on the HQ stream this season. Try living in the EU. For some reason GOM hates us/can't sort out streaming to us. Besides, the VLC is legal.
Also I can't afford the premium stream.
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i think some of yall need to start playing your matches on 'novice' maps because yall dont understand that early pressure is part of the game. jinro did a build and got countered by a build. there is no way to stop that. thats like saying banelings are broken because if i went marines i cant win. half these people posting about cheese are fuckin retarded
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