Cross position shakuras, cmon now Jinro, this "got" to be a longer macro-game for the sake of all terran-players out there!

Hell, if MC keeps owning like that all the foundations of my anti terran QQ are shattered.

sksyen

United States359 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1150

very likely to see a 4 gate from MC since he might not want to go macro game vs jinro. Build on his momentum

goto

45 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1151

On December 10 2010 19:38 eggs wrote:

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"borderline cheese" makes no sense. some would consider it cheese, most would not. there's no clearly defined limit for what is cheese.

I consider it "borderline cheese", alas, it's just my opinion and I do not expect anyone to share it. However, from personal experience as a Terran, from the minigun interview, and from watching the GSL right now, it's clear to me that something is broken here.

Anyone who thinks "building early ghosts" is the answer has never played Terran before.

minigun:

Correct, If I lose a game PVT, you can bet on it that I lost in the later stages of the game, but it had nothing to do with the 1 gate FE.

interview: http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/13912-meet-the-man-at-the-top-of-the-na-ladder

DeathNTaxes

United States79 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1152

On December 10 2010 19:41 Ocedic wrote:

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Okay buddy, go to Korea and win GSL then. Or get into the Ro64 at least.

It appears as if you missed my first point entirely, please read my original post.

Ajustator

Romania6 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1153

Could the losses be owed to the possible fact that the korean guy may have better team to analyze the adversary? seems like MC knows better in advance what to do to Jinro...

EpiK-J

Australia78 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1154

On December 10 2010 19:33 Heimatloser wrote:

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cheese = strategical play to get an advantage during the first 3-5 minutes (phase of the game where u should build up economy)

what a horrible definition.

g1. jinro sent out a hellion to attack probe. This is fail cheese play? So by def, both players cheesed.
g2. No one attacked in the first 3-5 minutes. So, by def, there was no cheese.

mizU

United States12125 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1155

WHATTTTT? A sword? Amazing.

Ftrunkz

Australia2474 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1156

On December 10 2010 19:36 clickrush wrote:
MC just has balls and plays aggressively. If Jinro did a wallin in set one, and a banshee or ghost opening in set 2 then it would play out very different.

You're skipping over the fact MC had the watchtower when jinro moved out with some marine + MARAUDERS to take map control, he knew early cloak was more or less off the table, probably even more so since he likely knows jinro very well.

His early opener was your normal early sentries to be safe, im not 100% sure on this, but i feel like its logically safe to say that _AFTER_ he saw the marauders, he placed the 2 extra gates and went into 3 gate expand. after no pressure from jinro, it was logical that he was doing either 1 or 2 rax expo (as opposed to 3 rax, where the terran would 100% pressure atleast to your natural), hence he knew a timing in which terran was incredibly weak to heavy FF abuse (another reason why the 6 early sentries to build energy was brilliant), and he hit that timing perfectly. I feel that if he didnt see jinro move out to take map control, he would've gone 1 or 2 gate robo, or even 3 gate with a earlyish robo (right before or right after placing the nexus).

It was basically a combination of perfectly reading his opponent, and knowing the timings so well that near guarantee'd him a win against jinro's build.

vyyye

Sweden3917 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1157

On December 10 2010 19:41 The KY wrote:

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Try living in the EU. For some reason GOM hates us/can't sort out streaming to us.

Besides, the VLC is legal.

Aye, it's annoying and the main reason I didn't pay for a season ticket. They really should fix that.

Tony Campolo

New Zealand364 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1158

On December 10 2010 19:39 geez wrote:

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I'm not acting holy. If for some reason the stream is lagging for you, then watch the VOD's a little bit later. If you haven't even paid for the premium then you have no reason to speak at all. You obviously don't care about e-sports at all, so why are you even trying to watch?

Are all the mp3s/video files on your computer legit? Do you watch porn without paying for the official downloads? Not everybody is perfect.

The KY

United Kingdom6252 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1159

On December 10 2010 19:41 The KY wrote:

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Try living in the EU. For some reason GOM hates us/can't sort out streaming to us.

Besides, the VLC is legal.

Also I can't afford the premium stream.

bigbeau

368 Posts

December 10 2010 10:42 GMT

#1160

i think some of yall need to start playing your matches on 'novice' maps because yall dont understand that early pressure is part of the game. jinro did a build and got countered by a build. there is no way to stop that. thats like saying banelings are broken because if i went marines i cant win. half these people posting about cheese are fuckin retarded