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cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
December 10 2010 11:19 GMT
#2241
On December 10 2010 20:13 Bear4188 wrote:
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On December 10 2010 20:12 garbanzo wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:11 Entropic wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:10 dabom88 wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:08 Blobskillz wrote:
another cheese matchup, man this is boring and really not how jinro deserved to leave the GSL


Jeez, people really don't know what cheese is these days.


everything is cheese these days

Yeah, I don't really get it. I don't understand why anything that's not a macro game is automatically cheese...


Haven't you heard about the zerg macro cheese?

I know right? I mean, it's just hitting "d" a lot
Jaedong <3 HOOK'EM HORNS!
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 10 2010 11:19 GMT
#2242
On December 10 2010 20:16 dabom88 wrote:
I'm really getting annoyed by everyone saying Rain's gonna get stomped. You know what, screw my liquidbet, I'm betting on Rain just to spite everyone.


that should give people sleepless nights
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
December 10 2010 11:19 GMT
#2243
Genius is more seen as the Idra by Koreans.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
December 10 2010 11:19 GMT
#2244
On December 10 2010 20:18 tarian wrote:
I'm extremely proud of Jinro, but those games were suspicious. As long as it benefits the ogs/liquid house I don't mind that much.


How was it suspicious?
kwaky
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)94 Posts
December 10 2010 11:19 GMT
#2245
On December 10 2010 20:18 echO [W] wrote:
Ugh, is it me, or did anyone else lose complete interest in the GSL finals?

How come? Because no more Jinro? =(
I enjoy watching StarCraft II so I still have interest in these finals.
Asturas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland587 Posts
December 10 2010 11:19 GMT
#2246
Well mc was much, much better... but on the other hand I am sick of rushes in SC2. Maps, comparing to SC1, are too small, almost every single Korean is rushing every game. No other way of playing. That is sad, frustrating and needs to be changed by patches and giving much bigger maps. I really enjoy watching 40-50 minutes games of Flash, Jaedong, Bisu and so on.
I don't say that Koreans should not play with rushes all the time. It's just SC2 is made so. You almost can't play long game if your opponent doesn't want :/ In SC1 long intense battles are normal. At least when Korean plays vs Korean.
There are no boundaries, that's the final conclusion.
betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
December 10 2010 11:19 GMT
#2247
On December 10 2010 20:18 Senx wrote:
Everyone should atleast be happy we'll get our first Protoss GSL champion



Everyone but Jinro fanboys and Terran players you mean?
BankerMace
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland19 Posts
December 10 2010 11:19 GMT
#2248
On December 10 2010 20:15 hugman wrote:
fuck
wake up one hour late and it's over

can someone sum up the games?


games 1-3 early game rushes by MC -> Jinro dead
game 4 Jinro Thor rush MC DT rush, base trade but MC has enough minerals to build a Nexus, Jinro only has Turrets
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 10 2010 11:20 GMT
#2249
On December 10 2010 20:15 hugman wrote:
fuck
wake up one hour late and it's over

can someone sum up the games?

Game 1 MC walks 2 Zealots into Jinro's base while Jinro's proxying a factory, then sends stalkers afterwards, GG.

Game 2 MC does 3gate expand, Jinro does 2rax pressure expand without pressure, MC attacks and kills Jinro with FFs blocking repair

Game 3 MC does a Void Ray push and Jinro did some kind of a FE, kills Jinro. I didn't see the beginning of this so can't say more accurately.

Game 4 MC does DT rush, Jinro does Thor Repair rush. Basetrade, Jinro didn't concentrate hard enough on killing MCs probes, Jinro's CC gets sniped and MC has enough for a Nexus, Jinro had no way of getting accross the map without getting killed by the DTs and had no mining.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 11:23:09
December 10 2010 11:20 GMT
#2250
I wonder why people expected a close series here, Iron's said in the past he has a ~95% win rate against terran no? Definitely an exaggeration but the point is he tears up his practice partners like Jinro as well as TOP and Ensnare. To expect super close games after that kind of talk is just hype for a foreigner I suppose =/ Shame that the finals a PvT too, likely Iron will continue to show his dominance in the matchup - then again, I'm sure Tester and the TSL team will coach Rain into great form and give us the show of a lifetime (lolo). Calling Rain to somehow beat Iron and shock the entire foreigner scene once again!
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
December 10 2010 11:20 GMT
#2251
alex band - euphoria is pretty amazing.
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
Widar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden261 Posts
December 10 2010 11:20 GMT
#2252
That was the best player vs the best Terran.

GSL 3 is over, but i will still watch rain get crapped, ive waited for that a long time =)
Fake it till you make it
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 10 2010 11:20 GMT
#2253
Oh man, stay out an hour later than usual, come home and the games are already over. This makes me sad. Great first showing for Jinro, congratulations to oGsMC.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
December 10 2010 11:20 GMT
#2254
On December 10 2010 20:15 The KY wrote:
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On December 10 2010 20:13 Quotidian wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:11 pyro19 wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:07 Tachion wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:05 Chewie wrote:
MC just showing superior strategy here. Knowing his opponent inside out and just abusing every weakness totally. Well played. Sad to see Jinro go out like this.

Jinro fighting!

People keep saying that MC knows Jinro so well and just exploited it, but it goes both ways. How come Jinro wasn't able to exploit anything about MC?


This.
I hate all the "MC knows him way too well" talk , jinro has played the exact same amount of games against him.

MC is just way above Jinro"s level right now , Not to say that Jinro wouldn"t reach that level , just not right now.

Still Code S , Semifinals , Fucking Proud of you CHINRO!!



Again, what was MC doing that was so technically superior to Jinro's abilities at the game? It was just early rushes and doing stuff that seriously makes the match up seem broken (and will probably be fixed after a while, once this kind of FF play hits the metagame)


Match up is not broken. Silliness. MC was playing better because he played to Jinro's weakness, and didn't let it get to a macro game which is Jinro's speciality.


Protoss is actually built up around "broken" units, and I'm pretty sure it's by design. Blizzard have stated that they wanted every race to feel broken in their own ways, but with protoss timing pushes, shitty warp ins on specific maps and FF play basically shutting down a terran's way of defending said timing pushes, Blizzard overdid themselves this time around...

And the sollution for terran can't be "just be aggressive," cause that's just bad game design as well.
Instigata
Profile Joined April 2004
United States546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 11:23:34
December 10 2010 11:20 GMT
#2255
On December 10 2010 20:17 Warrior Madness wrote:

Masses: Terran is imba cause flash doesn't lose!
Blizzard: Nope, it's balanced. Now go buy a ticket.
Jaedong enters GSL5.

Masses: Terran is still imba.


I'm a Jaedong fan so I didn't wanna face that fact lol
SC2 was doomed from the start.
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
December 10 2010 11:21 GMT
#2256
On December 10 2010 20:19 dabom88 wrote:
Genius is more seen as the Idra by Koreans.


i never thought of it that way, but it makes a lot of sense. they even have similar facial expressions when playing.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 10 2010 11:21 GMT
#2257
On December 10 2010 20:19 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 20:16 dabom88 wrote:
I'm really getting annoyed by everyone saying Rain's gonna get stomped. You know what, screw my liquidbet, I'm betting on Rain just to spite everyone.


that should give people sleepless nights


lolol
why so 진지해?
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
December 10 2010 11:21 GMT
#2258
On December 10 2010 20:13 Bear4188 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 20:12 garbanzo wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:11 Entropic wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:10 dabom88 wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:08 Blobskillz wrote:
another cheese matchup, man this is boring and really not how jinro deserved to leave the GSL


Jeez, people really don't know what cheese is these days.


everything is cheese these days

Yeah, I don't really get it. I don't understand why anything that's not a macro game is automatically cheese...


Haven't you heard about the zerg macro cheese?

You mean 14-hatch? Yeah, stupid long-term strategy cheese. Hate them!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
December 10 2010 11:21 GMT
#2259
If you want to see macro go watch BW
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
December 10 2010 11:21 GMT
#2260
On December 10 2010 20:19 Holgerius wrote:
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On December 10 2010 20:18 tarian wrote:
I'm extremely proud of Jinro, but those games were suspicious. As long as it benefits the ogs/liquid house I don't mind that much.

What the fuck do you mean with ''games were suspicious''?


He thinks Jinro is better than just losing 4-0 so that would make it he threw the games for some reason. But Jinro hasn't shown that much skill yet, still a lot to prove and improve when it comes to flexibility during a match and his early game play.
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