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On December 10 2010 20:13 Quotidian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 20:11 pyro19 wrote:On December 10 2010 20:07 Tachion wrote:On December 10 2010 20:05 Chewie wrote: MC just showing superior strategy here. Knowing his opponent inside out and just abusing every weakness totally. Well played. Sad to see Jinro go out like this.
Jinro fighting! People keep saying that MC knows Jinro so well and just exploited it, but it goes both ways. How come Jinro wasn't able to exploit anything about MC? This. I hate all the "MC knows him way too well" talk , jinro has played the exact same amount of games against him. MC is just way above Jinro"s level right now , Not to say that Jinro wouldn"t reach that level , just not right now. Still Code S , Semifinals , Fucking Proud of you CHINRO!! Again, what was MC doing that was so technically superior to Jinro's abilities at the game? It was just early rushes and doing stuff that seriously makes the match up seem broken (and will probably be fixed after a while, once this kind of FF play hits the metagame)
Match up is not broken. Silliness. MC was playing better because he played to Jinro's weakness, and didn't let it get to a macro game which is Jinro's speciality.
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On December 10 2010 20:14 noD wrote: MC said he helped with Jinro´s builds Jinro said he was helped with MC´s help MC said he would won Jinro said MC would probably won the important is was it a good fight ? its wasnt a good fight :S
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On December 10 2010 20:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 20:08 SilverforceX wrote: The major problem was Jinro never walls off for some bizzare reason. protoss walks in his base, scouts.. no gas? Oh, heavy MM/expand etc. two fast gas? cloak banshees etc. MC read his build like a pro that he is. Just wall off would completely negate that. The reason why Terrans don't wall off is because they don't want to lose supply depots (and the game) vs a Void Ray + 3 gate allin.
yeah i see where you are coming from with that. but its easier for terran to scout protoss builds to see VR inc. its a trade off, if you dont wall off, protoss gets easy scout on your BO.
most of those games had timing atks well beyond the early game and fights were at the natural or open.
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Did you guys ever watch a boxing game. MC just did what every sports player does against their opponents, attempt to instill fear and anxiousness. It's not that he thinks Rain is easy, that is a stupid state of mind, not taking your opponent seriously and it's gotten a lot of losses for a lot of players in a lot of sports, he's just playing with Rain's brain.
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fuck wake up one hour late and it's over
can someone sum up the games?
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I'm really getting annoyed by everyone saying Rain's gonna get stomped. You know what, screw my liquidbet, I'm betting on Rain just to spite everyone.
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I wonder, how reducing Phoenix build time fixes this late game issue TvP Blizzard stated they want to make this game look like its 12minutes for Terran, then def win.. lol
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Rain doesnt deserve to be in TSL, i mean each TSL has its own hero for each race, Tester, Fruitdealer, and Clide.. Rain is just too bad to be in TSL
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I think everyone should still be ridiculously proud of what Jinro was able to accomplish on behalf of the foreigner scene. He showed that not just Koreans can compete at the highest levels. Both he and Idra have their code S and will get to show their continual improvement next year. I honestly can't wait and Jinro getting this far was more than I possibly imagined.
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Wow, what perfect timings by MC in games 1 and 2. Beat out the bunker in game 1 and attacked Jinro before stim and the expansion really got going in game 2. And just good force fields and void ray control in game 3. He got pretty lucky in game 4 as Jinro's thor push was quite strong and could've won.
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I really hope that MC does not underestimate Rain, or he may just lose.
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On December 10 2010 20:14 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 20:13 pyro19 wrote:On December 10 2010 20:12 TedJustice wrote: The only way Rain can beat MC is if Clide and the other TSL terrans come up with some crazy anti-protoss build. Lol he has Tester aaand Clide to practice with. I know for a fact that he will give a better show than today even if he loses. Clide's Terran. You're thinking Sangho.
Naah , i meant Clide .I meant that Clide being the Terran baller he is may and will come up with a Tactic To beat MC.
People are forgetting that one of the many reasons why MC defeated Jinro so bad was because he Completely knows Jinro inside out. He wouldn"t have that kinda info on Rain even though rain is Tactically inferior to Jinro.
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On December 10 2010 20:14 pyro19 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 20:13 Instigata wrote: Masses: Zerg is weak! Blizzard: Nope, it's balanced. Now go buy a ticket. Zerg wins GSL1 and GSL2
Masses: Toss is weak! Blizzard: Nope, it's balanced. Now go buy a ticket. Toss wins GSL3.
Masses: Terran is weak cause Jinro lost! Blizzard: Nope, it's balanced. Now go buy a ticket. Flash enters GSL4.
Masses :Everything is Weak Blizzard: Nope , Flash"s Balanced.Now go buy a Ticket Flash wins again.
Win Lol. The strongest did not win today . Oh well, Jinro fighting!
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On December 10 2010 20:14 Echuu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 20:13 Tenkai Star wrote: Uhm stream shut down before intrerview finished? the hell? You were probably behind on the stream when they shut it down. It finished for me. How weird, it is standard to keep it going a little way longer for those behind. And I was on the official stream and not some ustream.
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damn -.- just came home hoping i can catch games 4-7
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On December 10 2010 20:15 hugman wrote: fuck wake up one hour late and it's over
can someone sum up the games?
Lots of build order wins, good force fields, and 6 minute games.
That's about it.
MC just made some units, and attacks. Jinro loses bunkers, loses units, ggs.
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On December 10 2010 20:14 pyro19 wrote: Masses :Everything is Weak Blizzard: Nope , Flash"s Balanced.Now go buy a Ticket Flash wins again.
You forgot: Kal enters GSL
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On December 10 2010 20:16 dabom88 wrote: I'm really getting annoyed by everyone saying Rain's gonna get stomped. You know what, screw my liquidbet, I'm betting on Rain just to spite everyone.
me too, even though MC have pretty good TvP, rain PvT isn't as bad as most you all think it is. I would think rain will put up a better fight
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I dont think JMC can 4-0 Rain. Rain is gonna try every cheese in this planet to snipe JMC down. I predict a 4-1 or 4-2 for JMC
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Jinro was being perfectly honest. He knew he was likely to get his ass handed to him today and he did. He plays with MC in practice house so he knows how good he is already.
Still he should be damn proud getting to semi`s. I don`t think anyone would have predicted that. Good coin too.
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