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Dingotrold
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark622 Posts
December 04 2010 22:54 GMT
#381
I felt it when Cloud said he wasn't happy with the way the games went.
Soft is the blade that is the heart || 万歳!
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
December 04 2010 22:54 GMT
#382
On December 05 2010 07:51 zurg wrote:
today its the first time i saw an interview with cloud and i like him
seems to be a nice guy


Yeah, I agree.

Its hard for anyone to be polite and straight-faced when you just progressed past a famous player into the finals, but to be THAT polite and THAT sincere is really really cool of him.

Socke Fighting!!!!
Zumm
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany122 Posts
December 04 2010 22:55 GMT
#383
@zurg

If you are able to read German you should read the interview on fragster.de
He is quite an arrogant one, but he played well in this series.
Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
December 04 2010 22:55 GMT
#384
On December 05 2010 07:53 DoA.DawN wrote:
what was that stuff demuslim was talking about. considering next season. different grouping system?


there will be something announced tomorrow about an EPS system change for next season so I guess there are some rumors arround
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
December 04 2010 22:57 GMT
#385
Wow this is surely a huge upset. Everybody expected Demu to take the finals with relative ease but his play looked pretty vulnerable in many situations (both against Cloud and Goody). I would like to know how his preperation was in advance of the tourney because Cloud stated that he played like 14 hours recently and was very active overall, whereas it was pretty quiet about Demu, apart from an unfortunate DH. In contrast to other progamers Demuslim seemed to have focussed mainly on the EPS so ending up as 3rd should leave him disappointed.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 04 2010 23:08 GMT
#386
On December 05 2010 07:57 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Everybody expected Demu to take the finals with relative ease

Speak for yourself there.
Its not like Demu dominated the recent tourneys he played in.


On another note, they finally need to take on the problem with casters being heared by the players. That was an issue on every big lan tournament except GSL.
Demu said he actually heared how the casters said "proxy rax". And it seems he was so fair to not instantly react to that by putting a bunker (he said that). But then he was so confused about how he should react that he messed up in the end.

Its totally unacceptable how this shit interferes with the games.
Off-season = best season
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
December 04 2010 23:13 GMT
#387
I think the commenators need to take an example of Hasu who avoided to spoil. Knowing about the problem it was not exactly smart to cry out loud MAKARAX!!!
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 23:25:13
December 04 2010 23:19 GMT
#388
On December 05 2010 07:57 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Wow this is surely a huge upset. Everybody expected Demu to take the finals with relative ease but his play looked pretty vulnerable in many situations (both against Cloud and Goody). I would like to know how his preperation was in advance of the tourney because Cloud stated that he played like 14 hours recently and was very active overall, whereas it was pretty quiet about Demu, apart from an unfortunate DH. In contrast to other progamers Demuslim seemed to have focussed mainly on the EPS so ending up as 3rd should leave him disappointed.


He actually said in a DH interview (linked below) that he hasnt been playing much of late, not been practicing in the run up to DH more than a few hours a day (if that) and so on.

I didnt expect him to be on top form, and so I thought he wouldnt win but maybe would make top 3 of 4 - so in that respect I guess you get what you deserve. Obviously TvT is pretty random or luck based, but I guess if Cloud worked his ass of specifically preparing for this, and demuslim was somewhat on a low point of his training there is no big upset.

[edit] 5:40


Socke Fighting!!!!
kmkkmk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany418 Posts
December 04 2010 23:20 GMT
#389
On December 05 2010 07:55 Zumm wrote:
@zurg

If you are able to read German you should read the interview on fragster.de
He is quite an arrogant one, but he played well in this series.

No he is not, you should reread the interview.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 23:31:48
December 04 2010 23:27 GMT
#390
@ resilve: well then the timing for not playing a lot was pretty suboptimal, considering that DH and EPS were the biggest events for him and besides that he did hardly play weekly cups etc.
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
December 04 2010 23:30 GMT
#391
Where is the english stream?
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
December 04 2010 23:34 GMT
#392
On December 05 2010 08:19 resilve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 07:57 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Wow this is surely a huge upset. Everybody expected Demu to take the finals with relative ease but his play looked pretty vulnerable in many situations (both against Cloud and Goody). I would like to know how his preperation was in advance of the tourney because Cloud stated that he played like 14 hours recently and was very active overall, whereas it was pretty quiet about Demu, apart from an unfortunate DH. In contrast to other progamers Demuslim seemed to have focussed mainly on the EPS so ending up as 3rd should leave him disappointed.


He actually said in a DH interview (linked below) that he hasnt been playing much of late, not been practicing in the run up to DH more than a few hours a day (if that) and so on.

I didnt expect him to be on top form, and so I thought he wouldnt win but maybe would make top 3 of 4 - so in that respect I guess you get what you deserve. Obviously TvT is pretty random or luck based, but I guess if Cloud worked his ass of specifically preparing for this, and demuslim was somewhat on a low point of his training there is no big upset.

[edit] 5:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iwqosTpaSU

damn i love ben xD
i wann go and drink some beer with him
우리는 대-한민국입니다
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
December 04 2010 23:38 GMT
#393
One thing I like about the eps though is that the two players that brought in the most effort in the last months were rewarded by making it into the grand final.
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
December 05 2010 00:00 GMT
#394
Two of Socke's best games:
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Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 00:03:34
December 05 2010 00:03 GMT
#395
Demuslim is a great guy and a great player but actually i'm happy for Cloud that he is doing good. It was a huge step for Demuslim to come to Germany but compared to Cloud i feel like he had much more (or better) support from his team(mates). Cloud doesn't have a teammate at his place anymore, is in a foreign country and it seemed like he had a rough time at the start of the season and now he puts up such a good show at the finals ( games vs socke were sick), handeling all this on its own, much respect for that.
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 00:12:26
December 05 2010 00:11 GMT
#396
On December 05 2010 08:27 Irrational_Animal wrote:
@ resilve: well then the timing for not playing a lot was pretty suboptimal, considering that DH and EPS were the biggest events for him and besides that he did hardly play weekly cups etc.


Man, I agree!

Im a massive fan of demuslim, but I was just explaining to the guy who claimed it was a big upset - that actually he is out of form a little bit atm (compared to his potential) and I guess even he would recognize that. If ClouD has been training really hardcore for this EPS final, then its no upset that he wins - well played to him.

I 100% believe that on his best form, ben is as good as anyone in the entire world and easily in the top 2 terrans in europe, but you wont win these mirror matches without having nailed the most up-to-date trends and being fully confident in your play (I guess).
Socke Fighting!!!!
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
December 05 2010 00:24 GMT
#397
i watched the socke vs cloud games a few moments ago
i highly recommend these games to all of you who missed them

http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/view/22568
우리는 대-한민국입니다
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
December 05 2010 00:35 GMT
#398
rotterdam had to fill in soo much time like 2-3 hours, props to him i really enjoyed the cast
Zumm
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany122 Posts
December 05 2010 09:28 GMT
#399
On December 05 2010 08:20 kmkkmk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 07:55 Zumm wrote:
@zurg

If you are able to read German you should read the interview on fragster.de
He is quite an arrogant one, but he played well in this series.

No he is not, you should reread the interview.


He is putting himself over all the korean terrans and doesn't even answer the question involving HuK, showing he isn't really accepting him as a good player.
Overall in my opinion he seems to be quite arrogant when talking about other players. The previous part wasn't that way.
fean0r
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany117 Posts
December 05 2010 09:29 GMT
#400
gogo socke, toss ftw!
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