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UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
November 16 2010 13:45 GMT
#5401
why was the deciding map zerg favoured?
Gogo Grubby.
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
November 16 2010 13:45 GMT
#5402
oh select too =(
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
November 16 2010 13:46 GMT
#5403
On November 16 2010 22:42 nutnut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 22:37 ParasitJonte wrote:
lol, so race statistics?

27 zerg
24 terran
12 toss
1 random

unless I've counted wrong (which I very well may have.....).

So, you guys ready to talk balance yet? ....


Doh, you dont even know the initial distribution of players/race before the qualifiers even started, how can you draw any kind of conclusion? If you look at the "notables that didnt qualify" and sum that up, you might even summarize terran as under powered..

Each season seems to pass by quickly and now only the Finals are left for GSL Season 2.
The Season 3 Preliminaries will be next week on Nov. 15th and 16th.

The maps for the Preliminary Rounds are,
Set 1 : Xel’Naga Caverns
Set 2 : Metalopolis
Set 3 : Scrap Station



The proportions for each race are,
Terran : 39.5%
Protoss : 33%
Zerg : 23.9%
Random : 3.6%

The matches will be best of 3 matches.
We hope that everyone coming over for the preliminaries does well and have fun participating.

Thank you.



GOMtv.net
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
crfty
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States174 Posts
November 16 2010 13:46 GMT
#5404
HuK HHHNNNGGG
Thezzphai
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1145 Posts
November 16 2010 13:47 GMT
#5405
would have loved to see tester and select :/
well, at least we got some good foreigners and maybe mc or genius can defend the honor of toss :p
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
November 16 2010 13:48 GMT
#5406
Ohh Tester didnt make the qualify either.
Sad day for BROTOSS
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 16 2010 13:48 GMT
#5407
VealSteak? That's... appropriate.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
MadZ
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark111 Posts
November 16 2010 13:51 GMT
#5408
stop complaining about the maps! its probally some of the best maps we have right now.. im just happy lost temple wasn't in the map pool and it is mind blowing that LT isn't removed from the ladder yet ...
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
November 16 2010 13:53 GMT
#5409
JULYZERG FIGHTING!!!!!
Everyone needs a nemesis.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
November 16 2010 13:53 GMT
#5410
I really feel the races are balanced now, but maps have a deciding influence on the outcome. Maybe its time GOMTV put a strong eye on this, or get some maps of their own.

Fushin
Profile Joined June 2010
France193 Posts
November 16 2010 13:55 GMT
#5411
On November 16 2010 22:53 crappen wrote:
I really feel the races are balanced now, but maps have a deciding influence on the outcome. Maybe its time GOMTV put a strong eye on this, or get some maps of their own.



Weren't they supposed to use custom maps starting in the semi of GSL1 or something ?
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
November 16 2010 13:55 GMT
#5412
I definately want to see racial distribution with custom maps so that the prelim qualifiers were at least balanced.
the farm ends here
eNbee
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium487 Posts
November 16 2010 13:56 GMT
#5413
I thought I saw Tasteless in the "playing today" list. What happened to him? Did he not compete?
hmmmm
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
November 16 2010 13:56 GMT
#5414
On November 16 2010 22:46 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 22:42 nutnut wrote:
On November 16 2010 22:37 ParasitJonte wrote:
lol, so race statistics?

27 zerg
24 terran
12 toss
1 random

unless I've counted wrong (which I very well may have.....).

So, you guys ready to talk balance yet? ....


Doh, you dont even know the initial distribution of players/race before the qualifiers even started, how can you draw any kind of conclusion? If you look at the "notables that didnt qualify" and sum that up, you might even summarize terran as under powered..

Each season seems to pass by quickly and now only the Finals are left for GSL Season 2.
The Season 3 Preliminaries will be next week on Nov. 15th and 16th.

The maps for the Preliminary Rounds are,
Set 1 : Xel’Naga Caverns
Set 2 : Metalopolis
Set 3 : Scrap Station



The proportions for each race are,
Terran : 39.5%
Protoss : 33%
Zerg : 23.9%
Random : 3.6%

The matches will be best of 3 matches.
We hope that everyone coming over for the preliminaries does well and have fun participating.

Thank you.



GOMtv.net


If we take these statistics into account, Zerg is doing way better than expected assuming a balanced game on a balanced map. Scrap Station is obviously a Zerg favoured map, should have played Shakuras instead.

If there are no balance changes during this GSL I don't expect anything less than a Zerg finals.
I think esports is pretty nice.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 16 2010 13:56 GMT
#5415
SO glad to see ret/jinro/idra/haypro qualifying. At the same time seeing the low amount of protoss really sucks. I wish inc or huk had qualified as well.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 14:21:09
November 16 2010 13:57 GMT
#5416
So, to begin with, the race distribution looked like:
Terran : 39.5%
Protoss : 33%
Zerg : 23.9%
Random : 3.6%

And the qualifiers turned out to look like:

Terran: 37.5 %
Protoss: 18.75 %
Zerg: 42.2 %
Random: 1.55 %

Hm, protoss seems a bit off. But it has obviously more reasons than just map/race balance.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Damaskinos
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 13:58:49
November 16 2010 13:57 GMT
#5417
On November 16 2010 22:42 nutnut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 22:37 ParasitJonte wrote:
lol, so race statistics?

27 zerg
24 terran
12 toss
1 random

unless I've counted wrong (which I very well may have.....).

So, you guys ready to talk balance yet? ....


Doh, you dont even know the initial distribution of players/race before the qualifiers even started, how can you draw any kind of conclusion? If you look at the "notables that didnt qualify" and sum that up, you might even summarize terran as under powered..


The Initial distribution was something like

27% Zerg
38% Terran
30% Protoss

Was here in the forums, but dont know where anymore.

Wont join the balance discussion. We will enjoy GSL 3 now and I guess Blizzard will react in the December Patch they announced.

Big Thanks to motbob for his coverage!

Edit: ok, the guys above delivered the exact data
"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." Matthew 7:6
Spellor
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 14:01:21
November 16 2010 13:59 GMT
#5418
gj liquid guys!
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
November 16 2010 14:00 GMT
#5419
Saechiis... T_T Stat 101 please.

If we take these statistics into account, Zerg is doing way better than expected assuming a balanced game on a balanced map and players of even skill level or any N -> positive infinity of players with random levels of skill.

fixed.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
November 16 2010 14:01 GMT
#5420
seeing july play in that gom clan event, made me wanna see more of him. his macro was so beastly.
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