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Fingulfin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States110 Posts
November 07 2010 21:08 GMT
#4021
Ugh, just woke up... and I must say, damnit Tyler why did you have to kill all the Zergs =(
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
November 07 2010 21:08 GMT
#4022
Sorry for asking, but what was the controversy between PainUser and Tyler in their first matchup? I didn't get to watch it and there's waaaaaay to many pages for me to sort through to find out.

Thanks.
nhoJJohn
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada82 Posts
November 07 2010 21:08 GMT
#4023
On November 08 2010 06:07 nhoJJohn wrote:
They have the names messed up.

Seems like TT1 is now playing terran and PU is going for the toss.

Edit: They just removed it.



Aaaand, now it's fixed.
raidmaster
Profile Joined July 2010
474 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 23:43:56
November 07 2010 21:08 GMT
#4024
4 gay allin incoming. God I really don't like TT1.

User was temp banned for this and other posts.
cangiz
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada286 Posts
November 07 2010 21:09 GMT
#4025
4 GATE!
Dubai
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
November 07 2010 21:09 GMT
#4026
On November 08 2010 06:04 Ryzu wrote:
Thread spiraling into mass whining. Another quality LR thread.

Its inevitable. Immaturity abounds without mod interference..
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
grevenchile
Profile Joined November 2009
Chile118 Posts
November 07 2010 21:09 GMT
#4027
On November 08 2010 06:06 HCastorp wrote:
You guys realize that the alternative to an extended series is that the loser would have to win two Bo3s, not that they would play a simple Bo3, right? There is still going to be an advantage for the player who won the first time. The main difference is that under the extended series system it matters whether the original series was 2:0 or 2:1, whereas in the BoBo3 system it does not.


no, this is a double elimination tournament, means you have to lose 2 times to get eliminated (lose 1 in WB and another in LB). thats why the winner of the winner bracket have to lose twice to be eliminated and win one to be the champion.
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
November 07 2010 21:09 GMT
#4028
Gosu 4 Gate wheat is killing me with some of the praises lol.
nhoJJohn
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada82 Posts
November 07 2010 21:09 GMT
#4029
On November 08 2010 06:08 nvs. wrote:
Sorry for asking, but what was the controversy between PainUser and Tyler in their first matchup? I didn't get to watch it and there's waaaaaay to many pages for me to sort through to find out.

Thanks.



Tyler was about to win first game when MLG stopped it (13 minutes in) because they were on the wrong map.

PU admits he was about to lose.
unindel
Profile Joined April 2010
United States206 Posts
November 07 2010 21:09 GMT
#4030
On November 08 2010 06:07 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 06:01 Numy wrote:
On November 08 2010 06:00 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Even the wording of their poll is wrong. The extended series rule is 100% fair... whether or not they want to use it is a different story. But there's certainly nothing more fair/unfair about it than without the extended series rule.


How is it 100% fair? Please explain your reasoning. As I view it , it is very unfair for any player that does not face the same opponent in LB as in WB. I'm sure everyone would love to have extra chances.

If we ignore all past results then that would mean for the sake of consistency you'd have to remove the winner bracket's champion having an advantage over the loser's bracket, no? If not, why draw the line there and not simply for beating an earlier opponent? Why does that logic apply there but not later?


The difference there is that the player from the WB has never been eliminated from the tournament, whereas the LB has been eliminated once. In order to be taken out of a double elimination tournament, you should be eliminated twice.
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 21:10:12
November 07 2010 21:10 GMT
#4031
glad to see PainUser crushing Tyler again and advancing. GJ PU
Marines > everything
Ryzu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States369 Posts
November 07 2010 21:10 GMT
#4032
On November 08 2010 06:07 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 06:01 Numy wrote:
On November 08 2010 06:00 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Even the wording of their poll is wrong. The extended series rule is 100% fair... whether or not they want to use it is a different story. But there's certainly nothing more fair/unfair about it than without the extended series rule.


How is it 100% fair? Please explain your reasoning. As I view it , it is very unfair for any player that does not face the same opponent in LB as in WB. I'm sure everyone would love to have extra chances.


It's fair because it applies to everybody in the tournament as is easy to understand an enforce. Whether you think it should be applied is a different argument.

Neither solution gives 100% happiness, but both are fair.

Extended series: Avoids problems from a final series going 2-3 and the person with 2 wins advancing over the person with 3 wins.

Non-Extended: Says fairness is derived from equality stemming from a reset of past results.

If we ignore all past results then that would mean for the sake of consistency you'd have to remove the winner bracket's champion having an advantage over the loser's bracket, no? If not, why draw the line there and not simply for beating an earlier opponent? Why does that logic apply there but not later?

I honestly don't have a horse in either race and don't have a large feeling. But both sides make sense, and the outcry about it blows my mind. Hell, at the first MLG there was even pages and pages of people crying that it was a double elimination tournament. People will complain about anything.


Again, people here don't really respond to logic, and don't really understand the reality of the issue. You're pretty much wasting you're time here. The whining will overwhelm you.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
November 07 2010 21:10 GMT
#4033
Uh oh...
With no power comes no responsibility?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 07 2010 21:10 GMT
#4034
:O TT1 killing a shitton of SCV, i think he's far ahead now.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 07 2010 21:10 GMT
#4035
On November 08 2010 06:08 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 06:07 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On November 08 2010 06:01 Numy wrote:
On November 08 2010 06:00 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Even the wording of their poll is wrong. The extended series rule is 100% fair... whether or not they want to use it is a different story. But there's certainly nothing more fair/unfair about it than without the extended series rule.


How is it 100% fair? Please explain your reasoning. As I view it , it is very unfair for any player that does not face the same opponent in LB as in WB. I'm sure everyone would love to have extra chances.


It's fair because it applies to everybody in the tournament as is easy to understand an enforce. Whether you think it should be applied is a different argument.

Neither solution gives 100% happiness, but both are fair.

Extended series: Avoids problems from a final series going 2-3 and the person with 2 wins advancing over the person with 3 wins.

Non-Extended: Says fairness is derived from equality stemming from a reset of past results.

If we ignore all past results then that would mean for the sake of consistency you'd have to remove the winner bracket's champion having an advantage over the loser's bracket, no? If not, why draw the line there and not simply for beating an earlier opponent? Why does that logic apply there but not later?

I honestly don't have a horse in either race and don't have a large feeling. But both sides make sense, and the outcry about it blows my mind. Hell, at the first MLG there was even pages and pages of people crying that it was a double elimination tournament. People will complain about anything.


No...that doesnt make anything fair. It simply makes it applied for everyone so anyone can get screwed.


My mind, it boggles. The definition of fair is "the same standards apply to everyone".

If you don't like the system they use (I certainly don't), please say that, instead of making disingenuous comments about fairness.
whatsgrackalackin420
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13426 Posts
November 07 2010 21:10 GMT
#4036
stream down?
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 07 2010 21:10 GMT
#4037
Painuser sure loves bunkers
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1838 Posts
November 07 2010 21:10 GMT
#4038
This is very easy to understand, to drop out of the tournament you need to lose 2 bo3. And that's it.

Drop the extended series and everything will be ok.
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
November 07 2010 21:10 GMT
#4039
The audience is like a golf tournament, a round of claps as a significant event happens.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 07 2010 21:10 GMT
#4040
TT1 should just go for contain now and try to get econ advantage
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