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On November 27 2010 07:23 BlazingInferno wrote: So far, Dreamhack has been pretty good.
1) BO1 did not lose players games. They were outplayed in individual games by opponents which eventually lost them the games. Except the amazingly stupid coin-toss decider, I don't think anyone can blame the format for players getting knocked out. I mean, the players themselves would say that they lost because they did not play up to mark and who are we to argue.
2) You guys have to stop saying LOL at Dreamhack for pitting Inca and Top together. Yeah, it was obviously planned right. They were both last-minute additions replacing other players. So, there is no way they were going to shift their brackets and schedule just for a bunch of amazing Koreans, no matter how much great Starcraft 2 players they may be.
3) D. Apollo sometimes looks terrified sitting next to Day 9. I personally feel D.Apollo has been good so far but he tends to over-analyze things and he takes the lead from Day most of the time. Now, I am sure he would agree that in terms of sheer experience in analyzing SC2, Day is the king, so I feel it has to be a bit more slanted towards his opinion. Even though Apollo is also doing a great job at it.
4) TotalBiscuit is just pure Gold. If there is one thing Dreamhack has to be thanked for, it is bringing this guy to our eyes. I am sure I am not the only one who has just been introduced to him but that guy is insanely awesome. I think he would work best alone though. Since his analysis cannot be compared to someone like Day's but his entertainment value is over the top.
5) Mana finally proving that the Stargate is still viable against Zerg if you can pull it off properly. I think he was awesome in general with his various strategies. Plus, I am pretty sure he is from the same team as WhiteRa which just makes him a complete baller IMO.
Yeah, there are a lot of amazing things to come out of this tournament. There are also some mistakes like the amazingly stupid coin-toss, Day losing his control for a bit and all that. But, so far, I<3 Dreamhack.
I cannot wait for tomorrow and really want Tyler to take this one since he has not won a major WoL tournament as of yet. Tyler hwaiting!
Absolutely brilliant summarizations.
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On November 27 2010 07:20 Lobo2me wrote: they did a coinflip(which should have been a Bo3 coinflip between each player). I didn't get to watch, but what does this mean? I don't see any point in a Bo3 coinflip. It's already completely random, right?
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Does anyone know if they will post the replays of all the games?
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On November 27 2010 07:26 LittleeD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 07:23 BlazingInferno wrote: So far, Dreamhack has been pretty good.
1) BO1 did not lose players games. They were outplayed in individual games by opponents which eventually lost them the games. Except the amazingly stupid coin-toss decider, I don't think anyone can blame the format for players getting knocked out. I mean, the players themselves would say that they lost because they did not play up to mark and who are we to argue.
2) You guys have to stop saying LOL at Dreamhack for pitting Inca and Top together. Yeah, it was obviously planned right. They were both last-minute additions replacing other players. So, there is no way they were going to shift their brackets and schedule just for a bunch of amazing Koreans, no matter how much great Starcraft 2 players they may be.
3) D. Apollo sometimes looks terrified sitting next to Day 9. I personally feel D.Apollo has been good so far but he tends to over-analyze things and he takes the lead from Day most of the time. Now, I am sure he would agree that in terms of sheer experience in analyzing SC2, Day is the king, so I feel it has to be a bit more slanted towards his opinion. Even though Apollo is also doing a great job at it.
4) TotalBiscuit is just pure Gold. If there is one thing Dreamhack has to be thanked for, it is bringing this guy to our eyes. I am sure I am not the only one who has just been introduced to him but that guy is insanely awesome. I think he would work best alone though. Since his analysis cannot be compared to someone like Day's but his entertainment value is over the top.
5) Mana finally proving that the Stargate is still viable against Zerg if you can pull it off properly. I think he was awesome in general with his various strategies. Plus, I am pretty sure he is from the same team as WhiteRa which just makes him a complete baller IMO.
Yeah, there are a lot of amazing things to come out of this tournament. There are also some mistakes like the amazingly stupid coin-toss, Day losing his control for a bit and all that. But, so far, I<3 Dreamhack.
I cannot wait for tomorrow and really want Tyler to take this one since he has not won a major WoL tournament as of yet. Tyler hwaiting! Absolutely brilliant summarizations.
Pretty much, haters gonna hate.
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On November 27 2010 07:17 thesighter wrote: The top players in Dreamhack are NON-Euro: Inca, Top, Tyler, and Fenix.
Are there ANY good players in Europe?? Only Socke has played well.
User was temp banned for this and a history of bad posts.
ret would take out everyone easily
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On November 27 2010 07:17 thesighter wrote: The top players in Dreamhack are NON-Euro: Inca, Top, Tyler, and Fenix.
Are there ANY good players in Europe?? Only Socke has played well.
What makes you assume Inca is a top player at Dreamhack? Is it his loss vs Tyler or TOP? Or is it his wins vs the random guys ActionJesus and Daboo?
Too obvious flame bait.
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and now 10.000 active on TL, wow, together with the 30.000 viewers thats just OUT of this world
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On November 27 2010 07:25 samhuan wrote: US has the worst players compared to their players population.
Why do people even take the time to post things like this, do they even think before they hit the enter key?
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On November 27 2010 07:17 HeIios wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 07:16 FliedLice wrote:On November 27 2010 07:15 killerkoala wrote:Day9 said it starts up again tomorrow at 10AM. Does this mean EST or a different timezone?  10AM is probably CET since he is in sweden atm. So you don't go to another country and completely disregard their timezone and count your own? So it's just not me. lol
Well for me, I wasn't sure where dreamhack was at so i just threw EST out there since it is where i am at. lol
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I would say Europe is even slightly ahead of NA but that's just me. Don't let me disturb the trolling.
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So much troll in this thread :S
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![[image loading]](http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1927/20150325.jpg)
good times.
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On November 27 2010 07:21 sleepingdog wrote: Wow, I'm really surprised that none of the zergs survived....also protoss is doing extremely well, it's 4 T and 4 P remaining if i'm not mistaken.
Clearly shows that something is off in racial diversity/balance concerning NA/EU <> Korea...don't know if it's just different styles or what.
Or that all of the top terrans and zergs are still playing in the GSL while the top toss were knocked out in qualifiers and able to attend. 12 Toss werent able to come because of GSL, compare that to 24 terran and 27 zerg, among them Jinro, IdrA, Ret, Sen, and Haypro, and you will understand.
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On November 27 2010 07:23 BlazingInferno wrote: So far, Dreamhack has been pretty good.
1) BO1 did not lose players games. They were outplayed in individual games by opponents which eventually lost them the games. Except the amazingly stupid coin-toss decider, I don't think anyone can blame the format for players getting knocked out. I mean, the players themselves would say that they lost because they did not play up to mark and who are we to argue.
I have to agree with this actually. I was sure that cheese would rule and good players would loose to lesser ones because of it.
But actually, players have decided that:
'Hey, I am good at this game, and if I cheese and they scout it I 90% loose. Therefore I should go for a proper timing attack/macro game where I have a much higher chance of winning, or rather - a higher chance of not loosing'
There are only a very few cases of cheese winning because of the allin-in-bo1.
And for good players like darkforce to make it through the BYOC is evidence of this, aswell as (with a few exceptions like DeMusliM) the majority of better/expected players making it to the ro16.
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So... Is no one going to comment on how bad both morrow and mana's play was? When protoss does for a 15-17 nexus, and you went pool first.. Build a roach warren and rofl your way to victory.
Never cancel a warp-gate to get a forge...
Targeting the highest health building possible with dt's...
Morrow didn't scout Mana at all to check for any tech. And so was owned hard by void/phoenix.
There's more, and I know, they're way better than me. I also know that players make mistakes in high profile matches where money is on the line. But no one is talking about it... so... yeah. Thought I'd point it out.

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Tyler vs TOP in the finals would be so amazing. Pretty sure that if it comes to that, Tyler could take it all, he does fantastic in high profile games.
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Why complain about the inCa and TOP match? If inCa had won his group, then they wouldn't meet in the first round.
DH isn't going to change the brackets totaly because of that = )
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On November 27 2010 07:23 BlazingInferno wrote: 4) TotalBiscuit is just pure Gold. If there is one thing Dreamhack has to be thanked for, it is bringing this guy to our eyes. I am sure I am not the only one who has just been introduced to him but that guy is insanely awesome. I think he would work best alone though. Since his analysis cannot be compared to someone like Day's but his entertainment value is over the top.
5) Mana finally proving that the Stargate is still viable against Zerg if you can pull it off properly. I think he was awesome in general with his various strategies. Plus, I am pretty sure he is from the same team as WhiteRa which just makes him a complete baller IMO.
Yeah, there are a lot of amazing things to come out of this tournament. There are also some mistakes like the amazingly stupid coin-toss, Day losing his control for a bit and all that. But, so far, I<3 Dreamhack.
I cannot wait for tomorrow and really want Tyler to take this one since he has not won a major WoL tournament as of yet. Tyler hwaiting!
to 4 fully aggree didnt know TB before this but he was so awesome entertaining wise he would make a really great day9 partner.
to 5 Mana did actally the very legit Sky Toss Build from GSL which is extremly effective vs Zerg in Korea from last SotG from Idra himself,
all in all i agree DH okay but very Cheese what I dont like at all. And from the Coin-Flip I hope to hear in the next SotG and .... ActionCHEESUZ
so yeah German Socke Toss Hwaiting.
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Pretty surprising results but very entertaining games so far.
I'm guessing the finals is going to be TOP vs Tyler.
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On November 27 2010 07:30 mYNDIG wrote: Why complain about the inCa and TOP match? If inCa had won his group, then they wouldn't meet in the first round.
DH isn't going to change the brackets totaly because of that = )
somebody should actually put that on top of the first post in bold red letters or something
see you tomorrow dreamhack
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