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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 23 2010 13:03 GMT
#301
Yea Martijn/kraut, whats "ouch" with that? Did the same ladder maps that have been used forever in every tourny suddenly become 10 time worse?
butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 13:38:15
November 23 2010 13:04 GMT
#302
now he can't all-in @ jungle/blistering ^_^
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
November 23 2010 13:08 GMT
#303
On November 23 2010 22:00 Redox wrote:
Wahts "ouch" about that? Its the ladder pool minus 1 map.


Minus 2: Jungle + Blistering.

But, seriously, DH, come on. It's a 5-day LAN. It must be possible in some way to hold 2 BO3 tournaments ...

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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 23 2010 13:12 GMT
#304
Should be streaming this as well, just confirming with Blizzard that I'm covered under TheGameStation's license.
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 23 2010 13:18 GMT
#305
On November 23 2010 22:08 zere wrote:
But, seriously, DH, come on. It's a 5-day LAN. It must be possible in some way to hold 2 BO3 tournaments ...

4day actually, and its pretty much over on sunday afaik, so only 3 days with real activities. Im fine with the qualifier being largely Bo1 too, after all they have to work through up to 500 players in one day and get it down to 8. However I dont see how it would be any problem at all running group stage games as Bo3. Maybe it would make the schedule more tight and there would have to be overlapping rounds played at the same time, but Bo3 is just so much more enjoyable as a viewer (and most certainly as a player too).
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 13:31:44
November 23 2010 13:24 GMT
#306
On November 23 2010 22:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 21:47 Martijn wrote:
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw10/files/2010/11/DreamHack-Winter-Official-SC2-rules.pdf
The tournament map pool includes the following maps: Lost Temple, Scrap Station,
Delta Quadrant, Metalopolis, Shakuras Plateau, Xel'Naga Caverns, Steppes of War.

Wahts "ouch" about that? Its the ladder pool minus 1 map.
And as you can eliminate maps I dont see anyone play on maps he doesnt like.


On November 23 2010 22:03 Kreb wrote:
Yea Martijn/kraut, whats "ouch" with that? Did the same ladder maps that have been used forever in every tourny suddenly become 10 time worse?


Of course I'm speaking from a caster standpoint, but the entire first phase of the tournament is likely to be played on 1, 2 maps. It won't harm the quality of the tournament and the level of play as much as it will be less entertaining. If you don't get what I'm talking about, try commentating nothing but one map for an 8 hour session. It's not an ouch for the players, it's an ouch for me ;p

Edit: Oh I see where it went wrong. I'm mostly referring to the best of 1's, seeming most of them will just end up on xel.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 23 2010 13:32 GMT
#307
On November 23 2010 22:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Should be streaming this as well, just confirming with Blizzard that I'm covered under TheGameStation's license.

Whoah that would actually be very cool.
So everybody gets to choose the style of commentary he prefers. :D

Off-season = best season
imax
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden31 Posts
November 23 2010 13:45 GMT
#308
I wonder what commentary Swedish TV will have, I bet that it will not be as high quality that we are use to with GSL and day 9. But I hope they can get it right, to bring some Wight to the sport in Sweden.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 14:38:57
November 23 2010 14:11 GMT
#309
On November 23 2010 18:55 Kreb wrote:
Looks like group stage games are going to be Bo1 (Bo3 bracket play and Bo5 final). That has the potential to fuck things up with people losing to cheesy strats in some matches and then simply be out of the tournament because of that. The group stage games should really be Bo3.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-robin_tournament

Don't Use Bo1 when describing round robin. Say either single round robin or double round robin.

Groups are single round robin--probably should have been a double round robin so that cheesy strats are less effective. AFAIK almost no tournament for anything anywhere does a triple round robin for groups of 4 (meaning 9 games for each player).

Qualifiers should have aslo been Bo3 imo.

edit- actually, I'm going to assume you meant Bo3 for each round robin. But in the event of tiebreakers, someone alwayswill complain.

Example: In the classic
Player A: 2-1 (let's say player A won 2:0 2:0 lost 1:2)
Player B: 2-1 (won 2:0 2:1 lost 1:2)
Player C: 2-1 (won 2:1 won 2:1 lost 0:2)
Player D: 0-3

Point differentials give A and B advancing, while it's pretty silly to use point differential to make C not advance in starcraft. Starcraft is so dependent on maps and how they effect each race--for example, A and B can be terran while C played Zerg with a map like Lost Temple in the map pool. But a tiebreaker makes Player A mad that he has to both playing tiebreaker.

Round Robin tournaments need equal games played to be most effective/least controversial.
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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
November 23 2010 14:54 GMT
#310
On November 23 2010 22:45 imax wrote:
I wonder what commentary Swedish TV will have, I bet that it will not be as high quality that we are use to with GSL and day 9. But I hope they can get it right, to bring some Wight to the sport in Sweden.


I say stick to Day9.

Also, I only think SVTPlay will stream the finals.
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10or10
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden517 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 15:02:49
November 23 2010 15:00 GMT
#311


swedish site rakaka.se has posted a small preview of the new esports area, it's in swedish but you will see:
1st one of the big LAN halls (not for progamers)
@1:00 the new "esport hall", the progamers will sit here as it is less loud but is not exclusive for them.
@1:30 day9s stream stage.
@2:00 various other e-sports I never heard of, like cs, hon, ssf.
@2:30 the tournament computers for sc2.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 23 2010 15:01 GMT
#312
NTT will also be making an appearance apparently.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
November 23 2010 15:15 GMT
#313
On November 23 2010 23:54 OminouS wrote:
I say stick to Day9.

Also, I only think SVTPlay will stream the finals.


If I got this right, they'll be using day9's commentary too.

On November 24 2010 00:01 StarStruck wrote:
NTT will also be making an appearance apparently.


I'll be sharing a hotel room with him, seeming he's with LLL as well now. Still pondering whether to wake him up by jumping on his bed screaming "BANELING BUST!"
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
November 23 2010 15:19 GMT
#314
bo1 in the groups?

So people are flying across the world to potentially play 3 maps and go home?
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
November 23 2010 15:24 GMT
#315
Wow. This tourny will be awesome actually!
Hello=)
Kimoto
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway70 Posts
November 23 2010 15:25 GMT
#316
Anyone from Copenhagen driving there? ^_^
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bobhund
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden364 Posts
November 23 2010 15:35 GMT
#317
On November 24 2010 00:15 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 23:54 OminouS wrote:
I say stick to Day9.

Also, I only think SVTPlay will stream the finals.


If I got this right, they'll be using day9's commentary too.

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 00:01 StarStruck wrote:
NTT will also be making an appearance apparently.


I'll be sharing a hotel room with him, seeming he's with LLL as well now. Still pondering whether to wake him up by jumping on his bed screaming "BANELING BUST!"

Nah, I do not think that it will be day9's stream that SVT will send, since SVT is something that have only so far broadcasted in swedish. I am 99% sure but I will confirm it when I know 100%.
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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
November 23 2010 15:38 GMT
#318
On November 24 2010 00:19 cuppatea wrote:
bo1 in the groups?

So people are flying across the world to potentially play 3 maps and go home?


As a player and spectator, believe me, I know this might be upsetting. But you have to realise that Dreamhack is the biggest LAN event in the entire world right now, hosting like 8-10 different e-sports tournaments at the same time. From an admins point of view, there's simply just not enough time to let everyone have what they want .
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
November 23 2010 15:59 GMT
#319
On November 24 2010 00:35 bobhund wrote:
Nah, I do not think that it will be day9's stream that SVT will send, since SVT is something that have only so far broadcasted in swedish. I am 99% sure but I will confirm it when I know 100%.


Well don't even bother then. No offense, I wouldn't listen to Dutch commentary done by some unknowns either, not when day9's covering the same thing heh.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
bobhund
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden364 Posts
November 23 2010 17:09 GMT
#320
On November 24 2010 00:59 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 00:35 bobhund wrote:
Nah, I do not think that it will be day9's stream that SVT will send, since SVT is something that have only so far broadcasted in swedish. I am 99% sure but I will confirm it when I know 100%.


Well don't even bother then. No offense, I wouldn't listen to Dutch commentary done by some unknowns either, not when day9's covering the same thing heh.

I would not either, but it's still important that people tune in in my opinion. Since it shows the support so that esport will continue to grow in Sweden ::>
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