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iNcontroL
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On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this.
Ad hominem attack at the general shit talking people are doing makes me irrelevant? wtf roflfl
Nah. If people are being pricks unprovoked I'm cool callingn it out.
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On October 27 2010 11:06 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:01 ZpuX wrote:On October 27 2010 10:42 crms wrote:On October 27 2010 04:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" oh shit you have to be as good as the person you're criticizing? I'll let ESPN, AM/FM radio, and analysts around the world know this is the case, thanks for the update. You kind of miss the point. Most of the expert commentators and analysts are former players of very high skill level or people who have been involved closely with the sport since very very young age. The people you see here complaining are just random no-names with basically no prior skill or knowledge to justify their judgment/argument. No i got the point, I was pretty much fucking around with him. I had the opportunity to address a progamer and it felt SO GOOD. I also disagree with your post, I'd say the vast majority of sports radio/tv talk show hosts etc. don't have any professional athletic experience. I think thats a fairly good analogy to random people on teamliquid who follow starcraft. The difference is I agree with incontrol there is constructive criticism ie 'he shouldn't have opened 15 hatch when he saw 10 gateway" and "holy shit this guy fucking blows he can never win." the latter unfortunately is what happens in almost all of these threads.
You are totally right about most of the hosts not being the most knowledgeable but then again, they are hosts not because of their knowledge or experience in the very field but because they are good at introducing, have a good voice or are decent looking. Then we have the analysts and expert commentators who are the ones to bring in the strategy and criticism.
You rarely see the hosts or main commentators do any final analyses. They might come up with something but will always turn to the expert to verify the assumptions he made.
Anyway, how come there are players you barely heard of being able to take 3 games off of EG just like that? Feels surreal somehow.
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What's the program called where they overlay the score/race/colours of the teams?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On October 27 2010 11:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this. Ad hominem attack at the general shit talking people are doing makes me irrelevant? wtf roflfl Nah. If people are being pricks unprovoked I'm cool callingn it out.
If you're willing to do that, you should expect that any the next few pages in whatever thread you're posting in might become a shitstorm, like this one. Good luck in your match.
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On October 27 2010 11:19 LuckyFool wrote:
will eg get all killed again?!
really impressed with ahhboxahh's play so far.
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gogogo NrG !!!! EG OVER RATED ~
besides idra ofc ~ =}
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Great play Incontrol. I'm not even toss and I'm loving it.
Edit:
Strong jinx 
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great play from ahhboxxahh i'm not even terran and I'm loving it.
Props to mihai for the all-kill on EG. :D
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All-killed again?
Something clearly needs to change in the EG house since what is happening now isn't working as recent clan-wars and Blizzcon and other tournies have shown. The players are losing games they really shouldn't be.
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Incontrol needs to work on his gg timing.
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hahah all kill
I just became NrG fan.
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damn mihai fighting!!!
what's going on with EG? Step up your game :o
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ahhhhhhhhhhboxahhhhhh all kill
pretty embarrassing for team eg
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Damn that was sweet. EG needed Axslav badly.
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GGs, love the AahBoxxah Playstyle
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NrG proving me wrong. Good games and congrats. 
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On October 27 2010 08:21 LuckyFool wrote:
ahhboxxah is gonna get raped.
eg wins 4-1.
what an amazing prediction! 
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surprising result, everyone has off days. On the other end, props to NrG, well played
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EPT
