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On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this. I strongly believe most bad players can't judge good players, might be elitist or whatever, but it's just like in poker, commentators sometimes have no fuckin idea what they're talking about, but only pros notice, amateurs don't... so yeah don't judge someone else's skill you can't comprehend
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EG seems to play a lot of clan wars, they can't win them all..
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On October 27 2010 14:35 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this. I strongly believe most bad players can't judge good players, might be elitist or whatever, but it's just like in poker, commentators sometimes have no fuckin idea what they're talking about, but only pros notice, amateurs don't... so yeah don't judge someone else's skill you can't comprehend Thats like saying a pitching coach can't judge how his players are doing because he can't throw 110mph.
Starcraft isn't a hard thing to understand for alot of people, hard to execute yes, to see and know what is going on is pretty easy if you have been playing RTS games your entire life.
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wow, that Boxx vs. Machine was was nice... magic box banelings would be nice against tank splash lol ^^
ggs guys, enjoyed it immensely, and finally got to see boxx play
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You have the results in spoilers but not hte direct link to the vods?
+ Show Spoiler +Kind of spoils that it was an allkill for people by theres only 4 links.
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We tried our best, NrG is a good solid team who outplayed us this time. Hopefully we get a chance to play them again in the future. GG's
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On October 27 2010 19:34 Machine[USA] wrote: We tried our best, NrG is a good solid team who outplayed us this time. Hopefully we get a chance to play them again in the future. GG's
LOVE the positive attitude! That is why I love team EG. Keep it up guys!
EG company or who is sponsoring them could not find better players to support! really
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Idra and Tasteless' clan gets aced.
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Is EG losing all clan wars ?
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No. They won three and lost one last week, then lost this one yesterday for recent clan matches. They'll get back on track.
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On October 27 2010 14:35 Fayth wrote: I strongly believe most bad players can't judge good players, might be elitist or whatever, but it's just like in poker, commentators sometimes have no fuckin idea what they're talking about, but only pros notice, amateurs don't... so yeah don't judge someone else's skill you can't comprehend
Yep. It's rampant in counter-strike and the comments are just made from dribbling retards.
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On October 27 2010 16:31 IndridCold wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 14:35 Fayth wrote:On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this. I strongly believe most bad players can't judge good players, might be elitist or whatever, but it's just like in poker, commentators sometimes have no fuckin idea what they're talking about, but only pros notice, amateurs don't... so yeah don't judge someone else's skill you can't comprehend Thats like saying a pitching coach can't judge how his players are doing because he can't throw 110mph. Starcraft isn't a hard thing to understand for alot of people, hard to execute yes, to see and know what is going on is pretty easy if you have been playing RTS games your entire life.
i don't think you can fully understand sc at the top level unless you have very good micro/macro and strategic understanding. You need to have good mechanics to understand the game because strategies in this game revolve around mechanics.
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ROFL KURT WHAT A G, this is pretty surprising
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On October 27 2010 16:31 IndridCold wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 14:35 Fayth wrote:On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this. I strongly believe most bad players can't judge good players, might be elitist or whatever, but it's just like in poker, commentators sometimes have no fuckin idea what they're talking about, but only pros notice, amateurs don't... so yeah don't judge someone else's skill you can't comprehend Thats like saying a pitching coach can't judge how his players are doing because he can't throw 110mph. Starcraft isn't a hard thing to understand for alot of people, hard to execute yes, to see and know what is going on is pretty easy if you have been playing RTS games your entire life. Seriously when will people learn? ALL the coaches have a player background from high level play! Just look at NYY, they have 6 coaches which all of them have played professional at atleast one point in their life. That means they might not still be at the same level but they have once been there!
This is very different from random people who has been either following or playing casually criticizing top players or trying to give them advice. But I guess it's the same case as being a child and always believing you know better than your parents...
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NrG has been picked up by Sixjax Gaming and their whole team will be attending MLG Dallas. Next weekend should be so much fun! :D
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GoGo Nrg :D Edit: oh this is an old forum lol
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