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DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
October 19 2010 07:37 GMT
#2681
I don't understand how people consider 4 gate a cheese, it's a timing push usually designed to break expansions. Honestly if you're teching off one base and have a vague idea what's coming, it shouldn't be, "that" hard to hold.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
October 19 2010 07:37 GMT
#2682
On October 19 2010 16:36 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 16:31 Treva wrote:
lol I like how sending 4 scvs to repair thors is considered all in.


And how 1 base dt rush is not?

I think sangho is a very capable player of going deep in to the tourney it is just sad to see tlo get matched against him when there has been so many players that played low to mid diamond level today. I enjoy tlo's style but i think he also needs to incorporate a bit more standard play in.


DTs were reactive against the thor build.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
October 19 2010 07:37 GMT
#2683
On October 19 2010 16:34 Boundless wrote:
That was funny. Artosis goes "shake my hand man", and Sangho misinterprets and does some crazy "pound dat shit explodaaa lolwut". I lol'd.


No.

Artosis and Sangho know you each pretty well, that's probably their normal handshake.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 07:38:18
October 19 2010 07:37 GMT
#2684
On October 19 2010 16:37 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 16:34 Kraznaya wrote:
On October 19 2010 16:27 billyX333 wrote:
On October 19 2010 16:24 Kraznaya wrote:
AHAHHAAH Artosis trolling TL

what?


Doing the fist bump with Sangho while everyone is nerdraging at him

iirc, artosis has been buddies with sangho before sc2 even officially existed. im almost feeling bad for sangho because he wont develop the fanbase tester did solely because this is his first impression on the new players from sc2 who only know TLO and nothing else


You don't want a fan base full of idiot fan boys. Quality over quantity.

Anyone who fist bumps Artosis is my Bro.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Bluest
Profile Joined September 2010
133 Posts
October 19 2010 07:37 GMT
#2685
That's the point though. TLO lost because he reacted poorly which is sad to lose to such an awful play from Sangho. If TLO even has his scvs where they should be he wins easily. Sangho blind 4 gated like a bad american diamond player albeit with better control. If Sangho had played like some monster I'd feel differently but TLO just beat himself which is very sad to see =(
light3
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia219 Posts
October 19 2010 07:38 GMT
#2686
On October 19 2010 16:35 hydraden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 16:31 Kamille wrote:
I hope IdrA smashes SanhHo's face and stomps on his corpse!


His ID is SangHo, don't kill the wrong people.


And let us not forget that Idra is now Grack as dubbed by Boxer
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
October 19 2010 07:38 GMT
#2687
On October 19 2010 16:33 fantomex wrote:
I don't fault the 4-gate. You play the map you are given and TLO should have scouted it.

But the first game was terrible. MMM+Vikings would have crushed Sangho that game. What T doesn't take the gold as his third? TLO used a strat that even if perfectly executed was doomed. And he did the same thing last GSL to drop a game on Kulas.

Does anyone think Sangho would have had a prayer against say Select? Please.

I don't know if hew would, maybe underestimating Immortals is the biggest mistake Ps make when facing Marauder heavy armies. He had zeal speed too.
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tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
October 19 2010 07:38 GMT
#2688
heh, artosis just rubbing it into TLO, I call bm interview!
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
October 19 2010 07:38 GMT
#2689
IdrA better make it past 64........
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12056 Posts
October 19 2010 07:38 GMT
#2690
On October 19 2010 16:34 .ImpacT. wrote:
.ImpacT. United States. October 19 2010 16:21. Posts 178 PM Profile Quote Edit #
SANGHO HWAITING!

And to all the haters, he out-macro'd TLO in G1.

No one comments when TLO goes all-in ThorRepair rush though. Fuckin' hypocrites.


All in? All in? He sent about 4 SCVs and three of them were building bunkers and turrets.

Sangho was rushing DT's and TLO saved scans and got an engineering bay. He wouldn't be able to expand quickly against DT's anyway. Were you watching the same game I was? Sangho only snuck the expansion after he saw the Thor. He knew he was dead, he had 4 gateways and a Darkshrine and built the Expansion because he knew TLO couldn't get their, but lost his main.

Sangho was going All in that game too, TLO did the perfect counter.
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mrkent
Profile Joined January 2010
United States160 Posts
October 19 2010 07:38 GMT
#2691
On October 19 2010 16:32 Boundless wrote:
You gotta hand it to him, no matter whether he wins or loses, TLO gives us pure, unfiltered, distilled entertainment.


You realize that distillation is basically a filtering process right?
okajunior
Profile Joined July 2010
United States125 Posts
October 19 2010 07:38 GMT
#2692
The people that had the interview cut off probably didn't speed up and catch up to the stream.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
October 19 2010 07:38 GMT
#2693
On October 19 2010 16:24 netherDrake wrote:
Disappointed that TLO lost, but good thing I'm still 9-0


Only about 50 of us! All in all a shame that two good players were matched together in Ro64. Someone had to go. The question now: can Sangho take on Fruitdealer?
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 19 2010 07:39 GMT
#2694
I got a feeling when TLO looks back at the game 1 replay he will cringe.

He was sooo overly eager to show off his 250mm cannons that he walked into a position that can't be explained as anything but suicide.

NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 07:41:09
October 19 2010 07:39 GMT
#2695
On October 19 2010 16:37 Bluest wrote:
That's the point though. TLO lost because he reacted poorly which is sad to lose to such an awful play from Sangho. If TLO even has his scvs where they should be he wins easily. Sangho blind 4 gated like a bad american diamond player albeit with better control. If Sangho had played like some monster I'd feel differently but TLO just beat himself which is very sad to see =(


If you go for cloak banshee you have to assume a 4 gate, especially from Protoss and especially if you played tech-builds the games before. TLO is a good enough player to know that he wins the game with cloak banshees if he can hold off the rush and that he'll lose if he cannot defend a 4 gate.

It was completely his fault for misreading / not being able to defend.


I also think FruitDealer vs SangHo is a lot better match than TLO vs FruitDealer, since I think TLO/SangHo are both worse than FruitDealer, but PvZ is favored towards Protoss more than ZvT is (when it actually still is what I doubt) favored towards Terran.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Tyrannon
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany113 Posts
October 19 2010 07:39 GMT
#2696
Cansomeone write me a pm how the toss got 4 Stalker behind the Rocks? Stream was freezed so i couldn´t look myself.

Pylon inside?
Pylon outside with vision? How did he get vision?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
October 19 2010 07:40 GMT
#2697
Lol at all the SangHo hate going on here. The guy's a great player, TLO legitimately screwed up in Game 3.
necroticah
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa233 Posts
October 19 2010 07:40 GMT
#2698
On October 19 2010 16:38 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 16:24 netherDrake wrote:
Disappointed that TLO lost, but good thing I'm still 9-0


Only about 50 of us! All in all a shame that two good players were matched together in Ro64. Someone had to go. The question now: can Sangho take on Fruitdealer?


link please?
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 07:41:59
October 19 2010 07:40 GMT
#2699
On October 19 2010 16:36 necroticah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 16:33 beetlelisk wrote:
He was so close yet so far.
51 people have perfect liquibet score now D: fu traitors ;(
I could watch whole TLO's interview fine


can you please post the link to it?

You mean liquibet? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160764

On October 19 2010 16:39 Tyrannon wrote:
Cansomeone write me a pm how the toss got 4 Stalker behind the Rocks? Stream was freezed so i couldn´t look myself.

Pylon inside?
Pylon outside with vision? How did he get vision?

Pylon outside, I think you don't get the vision only when rocks are blocking ramps.
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Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
October 19 2010 07:40 GMT
#2700
4 Gate is no more a cheese than TLO's thor rush, which is to say neither of them were. TLO only sent like 3-4 SCVs with his push and very easily could have just prodded the P's main and then contained him while he expanded, they were both one base and Sangho was rushing DTs. TLO caught him teching and had the foresight to have scans and a turret in the main.

In game 3 we get a 4 gate and the reverse, TLO messed up his scouting and was caught teching.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
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