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On October 19 2010 16:32 hp.Shell wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 16:21 Miles_Edgeworth wrote:
Why are people complaining about Sangho 4-gating when TLO just did a SCV/Thor all-in? Look at TLO's uniform. Now look up at the url. Now back at TLO's uniform. His uniform is now diamonds! Also, it's way more BM to cheese in game 3 than it is in game 2, imo. I hate the player selection for this match. I really want to say that TLO got stacked. Even if he made it to the Ro16, he'd probably have to play Fruit Dealer. TLO is a top 8 contender; there's no excuse for stacking the odds against him just so he has a lower rank for the major GSL next year. Yes, I'm accusing GOM of race bias. But I'm mainly just frustrated. I really think TLO could make top 8 if the players were properly seeded.
Idiot. Don't you think GOM doesn't lnow wat crowdpuller dario is??
Or maybe you're still reacting in shock to his loss... which is understandable!
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So many people with so little clue about the game =/
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That was funny. Artosis goes "shake my hand man", and Sangho misinterprets and does some crazy "pound dat shit explodaaa lolwut". I lol'd.
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On October 19 2010 16:31 Kamille wrote:
I hope IdrA smashes SanhHo's face and stomps on his corpse!
His ID is SangHo, don't kill the wrong people.
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I really wish he would play standard 2 rax reactor Marine marauder play against Protoss and Macro afterwards.
please leave all the innovative stuff for zerg and Terran in the next GSL.
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On October 19 2010 16:32 FreeUrMind wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 16:28 Alphonsse wrote:On October 19 2010 16:26 FreeUrMind wrote:
I cant believe there are 500+ ppl that wanted TLO to lose this match... they should be banned until next GSL! Liquibet is about guessing who you think will win, not who you want to win.. So you say you vote TLO and then hope that you will lose that point? Beats me '
um noo... u can vote someone because they are the favorite but in ur heart want an upset
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On October 19 2010 16:28 Lann555 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 16:27 bigjenk wrote:
I don't care that it is a 4 gate but the fact that there are tournament maps that are that abusive such as jungle dq steppes and lost temple is ridiculous. Agree with this too. GSL needs to get some professional level maps instead of this silly garbage.
that's true, but won't happen. :<
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On October 19 2010 16:33 fantomex wrote:
I don't fault the 4-gate. You play the map you are given and TLO should have scouted it.
But the first game was terrible. MMM+Vikings would have crushed Sangho that game. What T doesn't take the gold as his third? TLO used a strat that even if perfectly executed was doomed. And he did the same thing last GSL to drop a game on Kulas.
Does anyone think Sangho would have had a prayer against say Select? Please.
Dude, Sangho made the rest of his immortals reactively to TLO's thor play. If there were no thors, he would have transitioned to templar tech much faster.
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On October 19 2010 16:34 intergalactic wrote:
I don't see how you can compare TLO's Thor push with a hidden 4gate map abuse.
I might be a bit biased, but TLO's play on game 2 was amazing. These scans he saved were brilliant, and won him the game.
You're biased. 4 gate should be expected every single PvT you play, it is an extremely popular and standard build. With any T build you come up with 4 gate should be accounted for. TLO plainly lost because he was not prepared for it. Not because it was sneaky or abusive.
Just putting a depot at the rocks would have won him the game.
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Everyone nerd raging yet I bet TLO is thinking what he should have done and raging against himself. Good players don`t make excuses or blame cheese.
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On October 19 2010 16:33 kojinshugi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 16:31 Friend23 wrote:
lol stupid gomtv
arto said they had time for both interviews and they just cut stream even before first one actually ended The free stream is on a delay, but they cut both off at the same time. They probably finished the interview on the paid stream, then it ended, and the free stream got cut off.
actually i saw the interview on the free stream. the thing is sometimes you get just behind the buffer so your watching things that are like 2mins behind what the 'normal' stream viewers see. the only thing that affects both the ppl behind the buffer and the normal ppl is when they shut off the stream.
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On October 19 2010 16:33 beetlelisk wrote:
He was so close yet so far.
51 people have perfect liquibet score now D: fu traitors ;(
I could watch whole TLO's interview fine
can you please post the link to it?
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On October 19 2010 16:34 BraveGhost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 16:31 Treva wrote:
lol I like how sending 4 scvs to repair thors is considered all in. TLO hadn't expanded and Sangho had snuck an expansion.. If sangho had held that off and done more damage with dts, tlo would lose no doubt about it.. 2 base against 1 base?
Same could be said for game 3 right? If TLO holds that repair off maybe its a different game with the banshees coming out.
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On October 19 2010 16:33 Doko wrote:
Why are so many people complaining about that map?
TLO had like 5 or 6 marines and 1 bunker. 2 forcefields in the back of the bunker and i don't care how many scvs you pull. it dies.
The problem with that map is that the rush distance is insane yet it still has a backdoor. It heavily favors toss, who can reinforce with proxy pylons whereas the other two races have to take a billion years to put any pressure on.
Shakuras is fine, but Jungle Basin is ass. It's like some unholy union between Steppes and Blistering Sands produced a demon baby map.
EDIT: A note - I think TLO lost that game because he didn't scout while teching hard. I always always scout that backdoor, even when I'm going something super safe like 3 rax. If you're teching to Banshees fast you're gonna have pisspoor defense, so you need to know well in advance what he's doing. I'm not trying to make excuses for TLO, who shouldn't have gone Thors on Xelnaga, and shouldn't have scouted badly on this map. But the map is still completely retarded.
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On October 19 2010 16:31 Treva wrote:
lol I like how sending 4 scvs to repair thors is considered all in.
And how 1 base dt rush is not?
I think sangho is a very capable player of going deep in to the tourney it is just sad to see tlo get matched against him when there has been so many players that played low to mid diamond level today. I enjoy tlo's style but i think he also needs to incorporate a bit more standard play in.
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Man .. its ok for fake boxer not to scout there but Tlo come on whhhhhhyyyyy I dont get. I always send my 15 Food ovi there always... Oh man I really dont get it.
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TLO is too in love with the Thor.
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Sangho showed he was a better player than tlo, he either needs a to mirically discover a korean gene pool, because he is obviously "only" a max 32 round player for gsl.
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On October 19 2010 16:34 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 16:27 billyX333 wrote:On October 19 2010 16:24 Kraznaya wrote:
AHAHHAAH Artosis trolling TL what? Doing the fist bump with Sangho while everyone is nerdraging at him
iirc, artosis has been buddies with sangho before sc2 even officially existed. im almost feeling bad for sangho because he wont develop the foreign fanbase tester did solely because this is his first impression on the new players from sc2 who only know TLO and nothing else
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On October 19 2010 16:32 hp.Shell wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 16:21 Miles_Edgeworth wrote:
Why are people complaining about Sangho 4-gating when TLO just did a SCV/Thor all-in? Look at TLO's uniform. Now look up at the url. Now back at TLO's uniform. His uniform is now diamonds! Also, it's way more BM to cheese in game 3 than it is in game 2, imo. I hate the player selection for this match. I really want to say that TLO got stacked. Even if he made it to the Ro16, he'd probably have to play Fruit Dealer. TLO is a top 8 contender; there's no excuse for stacking the odds against him just so he has a lower rank for the major GSL next year. Yes, I'm accusing GOM of race bias. But I'm mainly just frustrated. I really think TLO could make top 8 if the players were properly seeded.
yeah... I doubt that..
TLO draws a lot of foreign fans, and a lot of koreans enjoy his play as well, Boxer himself said TLO inspired him in SC2... For gom to "stack" the odds against him would be silly, I personally think Idra has a really easy bracket.. so you think Gom thinks Idra is korean now? I think they would at least let TLO play one of those morons in the second match today if they could, those guys aren't bringing any viewers in, I'll tell you that
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