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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
October 12 2010 14:35 GMT
#701
On October 12 2010 23:26 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 23:13 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
so 40 players from last GLS did not qualify this time, out of which 28 lost in the ro64, and another 7 in the ro32. so only 5 players that made ro16 last time didn't qualify for GSL2 (4 if you discount liveforever who didn't attend): Tester, TOP, Lotze and Anypro.
Feels to me like they should start seeding the top16, or at least put them in a position where they only have to beat one person to advance.


These are the GSL pre-season events. They are designed to set up seeding for the real GSLs starting next year.


this

I think it would be ridiculous to seed in tournaments that are supposed to determine seeds; let's say two unknown but extremely skilled players have to play against each other in round 1 prelims - that's not fair either, but hey, that's life;
some seeds, in fact, must exist, otherwise it wouldn't be possible that so many top players can advance in the first place (probability of some of them not playing against each other would be extremely low)
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3468 Posts
October 12 2010 14:51 GMT
#702
On October 12 2010 23:35 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 23:26 dcemuser wrote:

These are the GSL pre-season events. They are designed to set up seeding for the real GSLs starting next year.


this

I think it would be ridiculous to seed in tournaments that are supposed to determine seeds; let's say two unknown but extremely skilled players have to play against each other in round 1 prelims - that's not fair either, but hey, that's life;
some seeds, in fact, must exist, otherwise it wouldn't be possible that so many top players can advance in the first place (probability of some of them not playing against each other would be extremely low)


that's why I said seed 16 or 32 players or whatever from previous GSLs in a "ro128" and make them play the winners from 64 player brackets. This will ensure high level players in the ro64 as well as guaranteeing that known players won't face each other early on.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
October 12 2010 15:05 GMT
#703
On October 12 2010 23:51 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 23:35 sleepingdog wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:26 dcemuser wrote:

These are the GSL pre-season events. They are designed to set up seeding for the real GSLs starting next year.


this

I think it would be ridiculous to seed in tournaments that are supposed to determine seeds; let's say two unknown but extremely skilled players have to play against each other in round 1 prelims - that's not fair either, but hey, that's life;
some seeds, in fact, must exist, otherwise it wouldn't be possible that so many top players can advance in the first place (probability of some of them not playing against each other would be extremely low)


that's why I said seed 16 or 32 players or whatever from previous GSLs in a "ro128" and make them play the winners from 64 player brackets. This will ensure high level players in the ro64 as well as guaranteeing that known players won't face each other early on.


I think its pretty obvious they're already doing some sort of seeding even if its not actually said...what are the odds that out of all the big names/favorites none of them were really in the same bracket now that its over? All the big names that have been eliminated so far didn't lose to another big name but to an unknown which would've happened the same even with seeding.
joonp
Profile Joined October 2010
United States105 Posts
October 12 2010 15:11 GMT
#704
good to see nada in

lots of new faces in this GSL will be interesting
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
October 12 2010 15:13 GMT
#705
On October 13 2010 00:05 antelope591 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 23:51 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:35 sleepingdog wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:26 dcemuser wrote:

These are the GSL pre-season events. They are designed to set up seeding for the real GSLs starting next year.


this

I think it would be ridiculous to seed in tournaments that are supposed to determine seeds; let's say two unknown but extremely skilled players have to play against each other in round 1 prelims - that's not fair either, but hey, that's life;
some seeds, in fact, must exist, otherwise it wouldn't be possible that so many top players can advance in the first place (probability of some of them not playing against each other would be extremely low)


that's why I said seed 16 or 32 players or whatever from previous GSLs in a "ro128" and make them play the winners from 64 player brackets. This will ensure high level players in the ro64 as well as guaranteeing that known players won't face each other early on.


I think its pretty obvious they're already doing some sort of seeding even if its not actually said...what are the odds that out of all the big names/favorites none of them were really in the same bracket now that its over? All the big names that have been eliminated so far didn't lose to another big name but to an unknown which would've happened the same even with seeding.

CellaWerra had to play Clide in qualifiers, both qualified for GSL 1. Just wanted to point that out, Clide and Cella were in a position where only 1 of them could qualify for GSL 2, so I think that if they did seed people, all they did was seed the ~top 16 away from each other.
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 12 2010 15:22 GMT
#706
YES, NADA!
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
October 12 2010 15:24 GMT
#707
On October 13 2010 00:13 Chriamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 00:05 antelope591 wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:51 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:35 sleepingdog wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:26 dcemuser wrote:

These are the GSL pre-season events. They are designed to set up seeding for the real GSLs starting next year.


this

I think it would be ridiculous to seed in tournaments that are supposed to determine seeds; let's say two unknown but extremely skilled players have to play against each other in round 1 prelims - that's not fair either, but hey, that's life;
some seeds, in fact, must exist, otherwise it wouldn't be possible that so many top players can advance in the first place (probability of some of them not playing against each other would be extremely low)


that's why I said seed 16 or 32 players or whatever from previous GSLs in a "ro128" and make them play the winners from 64 player brackets. This will ensure high level players in the ro64 as well as guaranteeing that known players won't face each other early on.


I think its pretty obvious they're already doing some sort of seeding even if its not actually said...what are the odds that out of all the big names/favorites none of them were really in the same bracket now that its over? All the big names that have been eliminated so far didn't lose to another big name but to an unknown which would've happened the same even with seeding.

CellaWerra had to play Clide in qualifiers, both qualified for GSL 1. Just wanted to point that out, Clide and Cella were in a position where only 1 of them could qualify for GSL 2, so I think that if they did seed people, all they did was seed the ~top 16 away from each other.


Yea to clarify I don't think they went all out with it but they did clearly tamper with brackets to make sure the top 16 wouldn't face each other and huge names like Boxer/Nada would have fairly easy brackets.
alkampfer
Profile Joined May 2010
116 Posts
October 12 2010 15:29 GMT
#708
NADAAAAA !!!!
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
October 12 2010 15:33 GMT
#709
NADAAA FIGHTINGGG!!!
NaDa <3, MMA <3, Bisu <3,
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3517 Posts
October 12 2010 15:41 GMT
#710
Does anyone else miss theSTC in this? He would just rip through the competition.

Screw you mandatory military service !
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Plaaguu
Profile Joined April 2009
United States406 Posts
October 12 2010 15:44 GMT
#711
Sweet, Sangho made it too!
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
October 12 2010 15:50 GMT
#712
So happy to see Sangho got in, will be cheering hard for him.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 12 2010 15:53 GMT
#713
On October 13 2010 00:24 antelope591 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 00:13 Chriamon wrote:
On October 13 2010 00:05 antelope591 wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:51 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:35 sleepingdog wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:26 dcemuser wrote:

These are the GSL pre-season events. They are designed to set up seeding for the real GSLs starting next year.


this

I think it would be ridiculous to seed in tournaments that are supposed to determine seeds; let's say two unknown but extremely skilled players have to play against each other in round 1 prelims - that's not fair either, but hey, that's life;
some seeds, in fact, must exist, otherwise it wouldn't be possible that so many top players can advance in the first place (probability of some of them not playing against each other would be extremely low)


that's why I said seed 16 or 32 players or whatever from previous GSLs in a "ro128" and make them play the winners from 64 player brackets. This will ensure high level players in the ro64 as well as guaranteeing that known players won't face each other early on.


I think its pretty obvious they're already doing some sort of seeding even if its not actually said...what are the odds that out of all the big names/favorites none of them were really in the same bracket now that its over? All the big names that have been eliminated so far didn't lose to another big name but to an unknown which would've happened the same even with seeding.

CellaWerra had to play Clide in qualifiers, both qualified for GSL 1. Just wanted to point that out, Clide and Cella were in a position where only 1 of them could qualify for GSL 2, so I think that if they did seed people, all they did was seed the ~top 16 away from each other.


Yea to clarify I don't think they went all out with it but they did clearly tamper with brackets to make sure the top 16 wouldn't face each other and huge names like Boxer/Nada would have fairly easy brackets.



That's really all the "seeding" they should do in GSL 2 and 3 since the first three GSLs are supposed to be like a preseason. Just prevent the top 16 from playing each other before the RO64.
Sixes
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1123 Posts
October 12 2010 15:59 GMT
#714
On October 13 2010 00:24 antelope591 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 00:13 Chriamon wrote:
On October 13 2010 00:05 antelope591 wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:51 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:35 sleepingdog wrote:
On October 12 2010 23:26 dcemuser wrote:

These are the GSL pre-season events. They are designed to set up seeding for the real GSLs starting next year.


this

I think it would be ridiculous to seed in tournaments that are supposed to determine seeds; let's say two unknown but extremely skilled players have to play against each other in round 1 prelims - that's not fair either, but hey, that's life;
some seeds, in fact, must exist, otherwise it wouldn't be possible that so many top players can advance in the first place (probability of some of them not playing against each other would be extremely low)


that's why I said seed 16 or 32 players or whatever from previous GSLs in a "ro128" and make them play the winners from 64 player brackets. This will ensure high level players in the ro64 as well as guaranteeing that known players won't face each other early on.


I think its pretty obvious they're already doing some sort of seeding even if its not actually said...what are the odds that out of all the big names/favorites none of them were really in the same bracket now that its over? All the big names that have been eliminated so far didn't lose to another big name but to an unknown which would've happened the same even with seeding.

CellaWerra had to play Clide in qualifiers, both qualified for GSL 1. Just wanted to point that out, Clide and Cella were in a position where only 1 of them could qualify for GSL 2, so I think that if they did seed people, all they did was seed the ~top 16 away from each other.


Yea to clarify I don't think they went all out with it but they did clearly tamper with brackets to make sure the top 16 wouldn't face each other and huge names like Boxer/Nada would have fairly easy brackets.


It makes perfect sense.

Seeding the whole Ro 64 from GSL 1 would give a high chance of the GSLs looking identical, they are looking for the 96 best as I recall not the 64 so they don't want to seed too extensively. On the other hand they need to seed the higher ones because having Cool vs ITR or Cool vs Boxer in a non streamed match would be plain stupid.
Speedbump
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
New Zealand338 Posts
October 12 2010 16:03 GMT
#715
Fuck yeah, Sangho. ^_^

Feels great to see him qualify, especially after all the bad shit that went down in BW. Hopefully, he can go far into the bracket as well.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
October 12 2010 16:04 GMT
#716
I just wish they were more transparent on the exact way they seed and decide the brackets for the qualifiers.
True skill comes without effort.
LeperMessiah
Profile Joined October 2010
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 16:20:20
October 12 2010 16:16 GMT
#717
This is my first post on TL and i'm proud to say i've been following this site for quite a while. Just wanted to say..... NaDa FIGHTINGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!! My terran hero has returned
The Genius Terran is back
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 16:19:39
October 12 2010 16:19 GMT
#718
On October 12 2010 18:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 18:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Nice, GJ NaDa =)


You guys need to help him get better.

Jinro....you are my only hope



Yeah, seriously. NaDa sounds like he's using BW tactics in SC2 and winning on pure talent.
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
October 12 2010 16:28 GMT
#719
This would have been PERFECT, absolutely flawless, with sSKS in it... sigh....
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Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
October 12 2010 16:56 GMT
#720
NaDa is the greatest player of all time.
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
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