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LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
November 01 2010 07:20 GMT
#161
Shit happens. We shouldn't have voted to allow people to change races to suit certain maps or matchups. I thought that was the reason we signed up including our race along with all of the other relevant information.

In any event, it was a great day and it was cool to meet some other players. I'm glad SC2 has a much larger community for doing these types of things. In the five years I played BW, I went to a grand total of two LANs. SC2 is relatively brand new and there's already been like, five in the New England area with two more in the span of a week next month? That's awesome.

So yeah, no more race picking next time? kthxbai.
Auhsoj
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States109 Posts
November 01 2010 14:55 GMT
#162
On November 01 2010 08:35 MyLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:18 muzzy wrote:
On October 31 2010 15:57 MyLife wrote:
I would say congrats to ajtls on first place... but uhh... yeah... i dont think its deserved to be honest... =/

I haven't watched the games yet (not at home this weekend) but what happened that makes you say that? Congrats to the winner... though I was hoping HP would take it again! 2nd is bad at all, though, especially against such a strong lineup.


Basically, i asked everyone b4 the tourney started if they minded if people swapped races during the tourney (if you dont know, ajtls is a Zerg player that USED to play terran, he still trys to go T when hes against a Z opponent)

So... he decided to pick random throughout the tournament and did fine, making it to the final game through the winners bracket.

So the finals start (a best of 7 with ajtls up 1 game at the start) and ajtls goes random, gets zerg, and loses to hpthegreat

the next game (series now 1-1) he picks lost temple and goes random. Gets Terran and gets completely and utterly outplayed in every single facet of the game, Like if u can find this game in the replay pack PLEASE watch it... Hp played AMAZING. ajtls attempted thor drops on cliffs, tried harassing in many diff ways etc etc etc and got shut down all game long. and then, end game he has about 6-7 thors and a tiny little pack of infantry, and while Hp is nydusing him and smashing his base he just decides to lift off and move bases and base trade with Hp, killing his whole base and dwindling his roach army a little at a time because he had like 20 scvs in tow repairing the thors... Needless to say ajtls wins after being completely smashed all game long.

So after that game, (series now 2-1 ajtls is up) He picks random on iCCup.Enigma and once again gets zerg (supposedly his "main" race) and HpTheGreat smashes him yet again... in another convincing victory.

So now the series is tied 2-2 and before game 5 starts, Drogith asks ajtls what map he wants to play...

His first choice is Kulas ravine (hmm wonder why), well kulas isnt in the map pool. So his next choice is Delta Quadrant (hmm WONDER WHY), well thats not in the map pool either. So then we tell him what the map pool is (you can look at it urself on page 1) and he chooses Steppes of war.

This game he doesnt pick random... he picks terran and sits on 2 bases w/ tanks/infantry at his choke, and once again masses thor/hellion and kills hpthegreat in a single push with 20+ scs in tow repairing all of his massively overpowered thors.

and basically game 6 was the same old shit all over again... mass thor with a thousand scvs repairing (and yes he PICKED terran this game again)

So basically the reason i think it is undeserved is because hp played better than him in almost all aspects if not every aspect of their matches and ajtls still comes out with wins.

these games really brought to light how overpowered thors are... I mean, yea im tired of listening to all of the terran complaints too but seriously... thors w/ scvs to repair are absolutely retarded... (even after the matches i spoke w/ ajtls and 1st thing he said to me was "wow thors are so Overpowered"

So yea i think it was undeserved because:

1) he tried to pick gay ass terran maps
2) Chose terran after randoming all day because he knew hp was the better player
3) Did the same gay ass boring strat every game because he knows its overpowered, simply to win an extra 70 bucks. (this is the guy who won 1100 dollars the night before playing poker at a casino)


I understand that you are upset about the TvZ issue and how it was played; however, I believe that in a tournement with money involved that everyone should be playing to win. I (TheWrecker) cheesed much more then I am used to and I am fine with that. Its the results that I cared about and 4th place I am happy with.

You are completely one-sided on this and it really bothered me. I agree that LT, ajtls was completely outplayed to the max. HP didn't play perfectly either. Where was his third after defending all 'dat harass'. ?? Also why base trade with roaches when terran can lift? Some simple strategic errors on hp's side lost him that game. Ajtls didnt win that one, hp lost it.

When you lose you pick a map that suits you and the race you play and how you play. I didn't see people upset when IdrA picked scrap station possible the most imbalanced map for zerg in mlg d.c. Also he didn't abuse steppes with the tanks.

He asked first if it was ok to race switch and a vote was constructed. Him and I talked strategy for a long time just to understand and he said to me if they dont allow him to race switch, he would have played terran and hoped for no protoss. The vote was 12-5 in favor of switching races. He picked his main race vrs hp cause he know that hp could beat him zvz. ( I really wanted to see pvz here but w/e )

Same gay ass boring strat. First TvZ he bunker rushed into thor drop, Second TvZ he played defensive into tank thor into a 3-3 upgraded push when hp was at 1-0, Third he opened 2 proxi starport into banshee harass which caused terrible terrible damage (sniping some drones causing drones to not mine and sniping queens along with almost killing third. Same boring unit composition that every terran does tvz cause it works.

Also thors are OP, but I think NP would negate that because thors would wreck the terran army or the terran would kill the thors; hence less thors and winable. If they target the infestors then i dont know. Have to see it one of these days.

Also the casino thing yeaa that is upsetting.
If first you don't succeed, DT
muzzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States640 Posts
November 01 2010 16:38 GMT
#163
I'll check out the replays tonight, sounds like some good games...

So basically this just really reinforces the fact that rules have to be solidified before a tourney starts, though. I personally agree that the race switching is pretty lame, but I guess if it was put to vote, I can't really blame ajtls for taking advantage of it.
sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
November 01 2010 20:34 GMT
#164
Nick you better attend the one when I return T_T
Can you feel the rush?
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 21:52:26
November 02 2010 21:47 GMT
#165
HpTheGreat(2nd), ajtls(1st), and Snorlax(Normal type)
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Founder of the New England SC2 League
hpTheGreat
Profile Joined August 2010
United States173 Posts
November 03 2010 00:06 GMT
#166
damn im sexy
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
November 03 2010 00:42 GMT
#167
It's the cross country shirt that does it. Runners.. mm baby... you know they got stamina. Freaking hour long matches XD
Founder of the New England SC2 League
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
November 04 2010 16:46 GMT
#168
Check it out:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165863
Founder of the New England SC2 League
Nairul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States262 Posts
November 05 2010 08:18 GMT
#169
Bahaha @ Snorlax (Normal type)
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