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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
October 08 2010 20:08 GMT
#1561
Lol i JUST realized that you say "fenix" just like you say "phoenix"

Now i get it.
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Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 20:13:06
October 08 2010 20:09 GMT
#1562
On October 09 2010 05:07 damon2400 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 05:06 Lann555 wrote:
Fenix showing some potential here.

Still convinced that HSM sucks by the way


The only good use I've seen for HSM's is when TLO used them to kill carriers.


It seems to have potential to push back the infantry support for a tankline, if you initiate engagement with it (may be quite risky though given the range). Unfortunately, the seeker missile that silver used against the infantry ball was after the fact during that engagement near the watch tower.
What this
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 20:09:48
October 08 2010 20:09 GMT
#1563
Fenix is a beast. Silver is about to get outclassed again.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 20:10:47
October 08 2010 20:09 GMT
#1564
On October 09 2010 05:08 TheNessman wrote:
Lol i JUST realized that you say "fenix" just like you say "phoenix"

Now i get it.
Well, yes, although in this case, his name is probably more directly a reference to the sc protoss hero than to the bird. Edit: Unless you meant what ThePowerHour said. Ignore me, then!
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 20:11:01
October 08 2010 20:10 GMT
#1565
Looks like an identical 111 so far. Fenix's rax is a little later than Silver's, Silver tech labs his rax.

Reaper heading towards Fenix's base.

Ignore what I said, they switched colors. It's Fenix's reaper.
whatsgrackalackin420
ThePowerHour
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 20:11:37
October 08 2010 20:10 GMT
#1566
On October 09 2010 05:08 TheNessman wrote:
Lol i JUST realized that you say "fenix" just like you say "phoenix"

Now i get it.

Haha, and now you know why Fenix became a dragoon. Blizzard so clever
Fenix dropping the tech lab for a reaper scout again - why fix what ain't broke?
EDIT: Silver spidey-sensed it and killed it. Or he's alt-tabbing and reading the thread
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
October 08 2010 20:10 GMT
#1567
On October 09 2010 05:07 damon2400 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 05:06 Lann555 wrote:
Fenix showing some potential here.

Still convinced that HSM sucks by the way


The only good use I've seen for HSM's is when TLO used them to kill carriers.


Morrow used it against mass viking successfully in one game I saw.
sanctuz
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway184 Posts
October 08 2010 20:11 GMT
#1568
silver keeps proving he's just a blip on the pro scene
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 08 2010 20:12 GMT
#1569
On October 09 2010 05:11 sanctuz wrote:
silver keeps proving he's just a blip on the pro scene


I think the problem with Silver is he is not getting better. But when you have, what, 0 teammates that can't help.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
October 08 2010 20:13 GMT
#1570
HSM could have been really effective there, as it drove the medivacs and marauders away from the tanks, giving an opening where Silver could have bum rushed the tanks. However, he used that time to attack the rocks.
djWHEAT
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States925 Posts
October 08 2010 20:14 GMT
#1571
SOMETHING ABOUT THE PRODUCTION:

I think everyone can agree that the production level of this stream is actually no where near what we saw at Gamescom. Yes? Ok great.

Now let me tell you why.

ESLtv is based out of Europe. Germany even. So when there is an event in Germany, obviously they are going to be able to haul their entire production setup to the venue and bring a level of production that you expect out of the ESLtv studios.

This event is in New York. Obviously, that makes it much more difficult to match the same level of production when you can't just airlift your setup to NY. But what makes matters even worse, this even is being held at the Javits center. Having done nearly 5 events there myself, I can tell you that from a "streaming" perspective it is THE WORST venue in the world.

Why? Here's an example...

ME: "Oh shit I need this computer plugged into the wall so I can use it."
*begin to plug in computer*
UNION GUY: "WOAH BUDDY WHAT ARE YOU DOING???"
ME: "I'm just plugging in this computer?"
UNION GUY: "WOAH WOAH WOAH, that's OUR JOB, so you tell me what you need and we'll do it"
ME: "Ok I need this computer plugged in..."
UNION GUY: "OK I'll have someone on it in 20 minutes"
*2 hours later*
UNION GUY: "Done"

That may seem super exaggerated but I SWEAR to you it's not. The Union has to do everything for you in that capacity.

Now why does this matter?

Because to add additional elements like camera men, video/stage projection, audio, etc. you have to pay for a union guy to set it up, and run it. I spoke to some folks from ESL prior to the event and they told me that in order to recreate what was done in Gamescom would take an amount of money that didn't really make it worthwhile.

I'm not making excuses for ESLtv, they can defend themselves, however, I feel it's necessary to at least shed some light as to why the production level is no where near what it was at Gamescom.

I think we should be appreciative of the fact that we have a free stream to enjoy StarCraft2 matches on... cause it could be worse - there could be no stream. I would love to have all the things folks have suggested in the thread... but know that just putting a camera next to a player is much harder than you might think. And in New York, with the unions... it takes 20 people to make happen.

GG's so far. Enjoying the games at work.
OneMoreGame.tv // Weapon Of Choice // Kings Of Tin // Inside The Game // Live On Three
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 08 2010 20:14 GMT
#1572
On October 09 2010 05:10 ThePowerHour wrote:
EDIT: Silver spidey-sensed it and killed it. Or he's alt-tabbing and reading the thread


Lol.

Silver heading to tank drop Fenix's natural. Banshee with cloak on the way as well.
whatsgrackalackin420
ThePowerHour
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States834 Posts
October 08 2010 20:14 GMT
#1573
Fenix holding down the tower closest to Silver's base, going for a contain. Now getting banshees + cloak for some worker murdering.
Hopefully we're still helping, Chill
BladeRunner
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States407 Posts
October 08 2010 20:14 GMT
#1574
I think in the future HSM will be crucial to push enemies back if not even do damage
Uriel_SVK
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovakia427 Posts
October 08 2010 20:14 GMT
#1575
On October 09 2010 05:08 Cashout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 05:07 damon2400 wrote:
On October 09 2010 05:06 Lann555 wrote:
Fenix showing some potential here.

Still convinced that HSM sucks by the way


The only good use I've seen for HSM's is when TLO used them to kill carriers.

link to the YT or replay pls


Think it was in this one


Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
October 08 2010 20:15 GMT
#1576
story of the series "oh silver oh silver OH SILVER OH SILVER" -day9
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
October 08 2010 20:15 GMT
#1577
It sucks for players like silver, who have made a small name for themselves online, but now that lans and tournaments start to play out, and players are really grinding games and have set up practice partners and teams.., a lot of the names that we know from a month or two ago are starting to fall behind and be forgotten, while some are pulling ahead, as well as some new names. It really shows that silver is just really out classed here in this tournament.. I feel bad for him . Props for using HSM though...

Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 08 2010 20:15 GMT
#1578
Silver almost kills Fenix's natural, floating burning OC.
whatsgrackalackin420
MrEaux
Profile Joined June 2010
United States165 Posts
October 08 2010 20:15 GMT
#1579
On October 09 2010 05:14 djWHEAT wrote:
SOMETHING ABOUT THE PRODUCTION:

I think everyone can agree that the production level of this stream is actually no where near what we saw at Gamescom. Yes? Ok great.

Now let me tell you why.

ESLtv is based out of Europe. Germany even. So when there is an event in Germany, obviously they are going to be able to haul their entire production setup to the venue and bring a level of production that you expect out of the ESLtv studios.

This event is in New York. Obviously, that makes it much more difficult to match the same level of production when you can't just airlift your setup to NY. But what makes matters even worse, this even is being held at the Javits center. Having done nearly 5 events there myself, I can tell you that from a "streaming" perspective it is THE WORST venue in the world.

Why? Here's an example...

ME: "Oh shit I need this computer plugged into the wall so I can use it."
*begin to plug in computer*
UNION GUY: "WOAH BUDDY WHAT ARE YOU DOING???"
ME: "I'm just plugging in this computer?"
UNION GUY: "WOAH WOAH WOAH, that's OUR JOB, so you tell me what you need and we'll do it"
ME: "Ok I need this computer plugged in..."
UNION GUY: "OK I'll have someone on it in 20 minutes"
*2 hours later*
UNION GUY: "Done"

That may seem super exaggerated but I SWEAR to you it's not. The Union has to do everything for you in that capacity.

Now why does this matter?

Because to add additional elements like camera men, video/stage projection, audio, etc. you have to pay for a union guy to set it up, and run it. I spoke to some folks from ESL prior to the event and they told me that in order to recreate what was done in Gamescom would take an amount of money that didn't really make it worthwhile.

I'm not making excuses for ESLtv, they can defend themselves, however, I feel it's necessary to at least shed some light as to why the production level is no where near what it was at Gamescom.

I think we should be appreciative of the fact that we have a free stream to enjoy StarCraft2 matches on... cause it could be worse - there could be no stream. I would love to have all the things folks have suggested in the thread... but know that just putting a camera next to a player is much harder than you might think. And in New York, with the unions... it takes 20 people to make happen.

GG's so far. Enjoying the games at work.


Much <3 for djWheat
McMonty
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada379 Posts
October 08 2010 20:16 GMT
#1580
Fenix messes up just like everyone else it seems
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