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raidmaster
Profile Joined July 2010
474 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 19:34:11
October 08 2010 19:33 GMT
#1421
Compared to who? HuK is already a GOOD player as many of the people participating here are. Great is something else which is probably what you meant. If your progaming you pretty much are good and not just a ladder champ. Great is something no one has achieved in SC2


Compared to the rest of the world, f.e Korea when he is moving soon. I had never consider drewbie to be a great player (but still really solid) and yet Huk's doing so many mistakes, his play is also gimmicky sometimes - f.e 4 warpgate robo off one base. Not mentioning bad collosus micro. I don't deny that Huk is a good player, but I still think, that he is more mass playing games, than being a pro player (and thinking).
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 08 2010 19:33 GMT
#1422
On October 09 2010 04:31 Pyrthas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 04:28 kojinshugi wrote:
1v1 FPS is so lame looking.
What? It can be incredible.


It's fun to play, it's really lame to watch. Subjective opinion is subjective, of course.
whatsgrackalackin420
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
October 08 2010 19:33 GMT
#1423
I admit, I'd like to see a tech switch to Templar just to make the game more interesting (and I think it's stronger for Protoss overall), but I understand why Huk stuck with Colossi in an intense, high-pressure game with both players seemingly afraid to expand.

Really hoping SOMEONE busts out something crazy and unconventional (like Carriers, or mech TvP). I was really happy to see Thor come out in an earlier game, it SEEMS like it would be good against this Phoenix/Colossi style that some of the players are going for.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
October 08 2010 19:34 GMT
#1424
Isn't this tournament held at some comic-con? It's not a full blown tournament like the Cologne one. Can't expect GSL level organization.
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
October 08 2010 19:34 GMT
#1425
Anyone know why Huk has 2 Penalty Points?

Could that be a mistake?

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/newyork/sc2/groupstage/rankings/#/masters/season5/newyork/sc2/groupstage/rankings/
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
October 08 2010 19:34 GMT
#1426
i think fenix is gonna destroy everyone at iem
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
YourMom
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania565 Posts
October 08 2010 19:34 GMT
#1427
If you paid attention to game one of HuK vs Drewbie, HuK danced his zealots after that one good early skirmish LOL.
I'm very good at making carriers.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 19:35:30
October 08 2010 19:34 GMT
#1428
On October 09 2010 04:31 dacthehork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 04:29 kojinshugi wrote:
On October 09 2010 04:27 dacthehork wrote:
Any info on why they don't have interviews or evne image/video of the players??????? Isn't this a lan? even GSL they have a language barrier and still manage to let us know more about the players.


This is the group stage. Stop whining, jesus.

nah dude, they can just ask for more comps locally and im sure people would have helped out.. It's ridiculous to have a supposed large event like this and be so woefully unprepared / low quality. At least interview the players after, shit WHOEVER is running this, after the games have the winners go spend 2 minutes talking to day9 / gunrun.

If just for new fans to get to know the players more, it helps a TON to have a human element.

should have just ran it online if you wanted to only show casters.

The NA IEMs have always been small. The location they are at (Comic Con) might be big, but it does not mean that the space they are given to work with is. Comps are provided by sponsors. Don't think sponsors give them over 9000 comps to work with. Sometimes, it's just not enough but they make the best of it. Running off to go buy a decent $500 PC is not going to work either. Live interviews would be nice, but if it's not possible with what they have to work with then there is not much that can be done.
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Ganondorf
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy600 Posts
October 08 2010 19:35 GMT
#1429
In the european IEM they had interviews and video feed of players, i guess we will get the same here soon.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
October 08 2010 19:35 GMT
#1430
On October 09 2010 04:30 damon2400 wrote:
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On October 09 2010 04:29 Lann555 wrote:
These progaming commercials are incredibly lame. Almost makes me emberrassed to follow E-sports


I actually thought they were kinda nice

You must follow regular sports or something :p


I dunno, they are just trying to make it look a little too cool and exciting. I fucking love E-sports, but it's still just a bunch of nerds playing games. The shots of screaming fans with the epic music is just a little too much for my taste
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some_noob
Profile Joined August 2010
160 Posts
October 08 2010 19:35 GMT
#1431
On October 09 2010 04:33 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
Please SHOW THE PLAYERS. Ever? Once? I mean they flew there, you could at least show them before half of them are knocked out today.

I couldn't care less about what the players looks like, I'm here for sc2.
Losanda
Profile Joined August 2010
18 Posts
October 08 2010 19:35 GMT
#1432
I'm in the boat with the other "production value is crappy" people. Seriously, they should at least be able to get one or two interviews between the games... have the players sit at the damn table the commentators are, if there really isn't a second camera.
Ascorius
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway275 Posts
October 08 2010 19:35 GMT
#1433
On October 09 2010 04:28 kojinshugi wrote:
1v1 FPS is so lame looking.


Did you see quake live IEM cologne? I think it looked god damn awesome, and those guys really showed skills. If they put more players in the match it would have been less about skill and more about luck because of spawns etc.
Danneth
Profile Joined October 2010
United States18 Posts
October 08 2010 19:35 GMT
#1434
Does anyone agree tanks could of played a slight factor in that match to lure in huk's forces? Vikings need to be used so precisely to maneuver those collasi.
Hello I'm Dan :D
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
October 08 2010 19:36 GMT
#1435
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 09 2010 04:30 Reason.SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 04:23 Tantaburs wrote:
On October 09 2010 04:16 Rokk wrote:
What exactly makes 4 colossi a critical number?



4 collosi one shot marauders IIRC

each collosi does 16x2 dmg a shot to marauders so 4 do 128dmg per volley which one hsots marauders.

Someone please correct me if im wrong.


Colossi do 15x2

Marauders have 1 armour non-upgraded so they take 14x2

28x4 = 112.

Thus it takes 5 colossi to 1-shot marauders. If both are not upgraded.

With +1, Colossi do 17x2 (16x2 effectively to armour 1).

32x4 = 128. So it takes +1 upgrade for 4 Colossi to 1-shot marauders.

This is true, and probably also why huk researched +1 just before that push.
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dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
October 08 2010 19:36 GMT
#1436
On October 09 2010 04:33 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
Please SHOW THE PLAYERS. Ever? Once? I mean they flew there, you could at least show them before half of them are knocked out today.

This, I don't understand how you can spend all this time setting up a lan, flying people out, attaching large money to it. Then not spend 3 minutes figuring out how the cast will go, only having one computer, not interviewing/showing a single player. It just seems half arsed to all hell. Like put someone in charge who has some semblance of passion to get things done.

This is the worst lan event I've ever seen casted. Raelcun going to a random 50 dollar lan has better camera, stream, and coverage.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Rasky
Profile Joined July 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 19:43:39
October 08 2010 19:36 GMT
#1437
What time is Huk vs MurDer?
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 08 2010 19:36 GMT
#1438
Yup production quality is indeed shit, its a shame really, with the way midway and the guys have been hyping up this event, zzzz...
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
October 08 2010 19:37 GMT
#1439
On October 09 2010 04:34 GenoZStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 04:31 dacthehork wrote:
On October 09 2010 04:29 kojinshugi wrote:
On October 09 2010 04:27 dacthehork wrote:
Any info on why they don't have interviews or evne image/video of the players??????? Isn't this a lan? even GSL they have a language barrier and still manage to let us know more about the players.


This is the group stage. Stop whining, jesus.

nah dude, they can just ask for more comps locally and im sure people would have helped out.. It's ridiculous to have a supposed large event like this and be so woefully unprepared / low quality. At least interview the players after, shit WHOEVER is running this, after the games have the winners go spend 2 minutes talking to day9 / gunrun.

If just for new fans to get to know the players more, it helps a TON to have a human element.

should have just ran it online if you wanted to only show casters.

The NA IEMs have always been small. The location they are at (Comic Con) might be big, but it does not mean that the space they are given to work with is. Comps are provided by sponsors. Don't think sponsors give them over 9000 comps to work with. Sometimes, it's just not enough but they make the best of it. Running off to go buy a decent $500 PC is not going to work either. Live interviews would be nice, but if it's not possible with what they have to work with then there is not much that can be done.

don't give into that bs, moving a player over to where day9/gunrun is and having them talk for 2 minutes is not a monumental feat of logistics, it's a simple act of actually caring.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
October 08 2010 19:37 GMT
#1440
On October 09 2010 04:34 Pudge_172 wrote:
Anyone know why Huk has 2 Penalty Points?

Could that be a mistake?

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/newyork/sc2/groupstage/rankings/#/masters/season5/newyork/sc2/groupstage/rankings/


Yeah, must be a mistake.
Unless we missed something?
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