Unfortunately, viewers will have to get into the habit of watching streams without chat when they are casting replays. 4k+ viewers and there is always going to be someone that checks players histories and spoils it for everyone else

Monzterg

Sweden257 Posts

September 18 2010 21:11 GMT

#649

Im so glad djWHEAT loves starcraft.

P R O

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

September 18 2010 21:11 GMT

#650

On September 19 2010 06:10 JWD wrote:

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I think next TL Open should be cast live but with an image overlay that looks like the replay controls.

Hahahaha that would be classic. The only "control" though is the time bar. So would have to get an animated one.

TRAP[yoo]

Hungary6026 Posts

September 18 2010 21:12 GMT

#651

On September 19 2010 06:07 JWD wrote:

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No hate, he just seems realllly stoked on GSL, and especially on paying for the $20 pass!

i also paid and im happy with it.
whether they are casting replays or live...i dont care. i enjoyed the torunaments casted with replays before

GenoZStriker

United States2914 Posts

September 18 2010 21:13 GMT

#652

On September 19 2010 06:10 JWD wrote:

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I think next TL Open should be cast live but with an image overlay that looks like the replay controls.

+1 to that idea.

Those who hate replays being cast for some reason find it in themselves to be the problem by spoiling it. "O you're not casting it live but replays? Well fuck you, I'm going to spoil it for you then". That does not resolve anything and that's why discussions never get anywhere.

figq

12519 Posts

September 18 2010 21:15 GMT

#653

On September 19 2010 05:59 Muffel wrote:
im wondering why there are two cups with a 1024 and a 512 grid every sunday, FULL. with many many many progamers though its all about cheating and lagging.

and yes it would be worse if they'd cast only replays..
+ if other tournements cast live and ATLO not, than it feels like not as entertaining

You actually refer to tournaments that are held mainly on the EU server with most of the gamers and casters in the same well connected region. Plus those tournaments don't have as many casters. If you want a broader perspective, check HuK's thread. There's a lot of latency and distraction from obsing.

gozima

Canada602 Posts

September 18 2010 21:16 GMT

#654

Yay for finals spoilers in chat. Dammit, I forgot to close the damn thing.

Fubb

Germany160 Posts

September 18 2010 21:18 GMT

#655

reading through this thread ... man i am happy that i never use the chat from the streams ^_^

and yes i am aware that people could spoil in here as well.

.syL

Germany85 Posts

September 18 2010 21:20 GMT

#656

On September 19 2010 05:46 travis wrote:

like i said, this is all mental. if you don't know the results and you are watching the games at the same time as everyone else there is no problem except whatever u make up in your own mind

Well, of course it's all 'mental', that doesn't make it any less real though. Excitement in itself is a psychological response, and arguing about how watching casted replies logically shouldn't be different from watching something live doesn't get you anywhere. And yes, it would be different if people wouldn't know that replays were casted, but that's the whole point.

It certainly is hard to give concrete reasons for it, besides a vague "it feels less exciting". I've thought about it at length, ever since watching day9's KotB, trying to come up with an explanation for myself why i felt less excited then I thought I should. I think the fundamental reason is, and others have mentioned that before, that you are watching something predetermined. A delayed stream, even if it's delayed by 15 minutes or more, at least give the illusion that the outcome is still in the open, and since we're talking about psychological effects, just having the illusion is as good as the real thing.

Or to be more concrete, the difference between a delayed cast and a replayed cast is that delayed casts gives you the casters live reaction to ongoing events, while with replays casters and viewers both share the knowledge that the game is already over.

Another aspect is that with replays, you can never be sure that the casters doesn't already know the result. With KotB, that was one my biggest gripes, knowing (or suspecting), that day9 already knew the results, therefor having to fake the enthusiasm. Whether he really did (and as it turned out he did know) is besides the point, as that nagging feeling in the back of your mind is enough.

Those are just little aspects that make up, but not fully explain, why, at least for me, watching casted replays is less exciting then watching something live, even if it's delayed.

ondik

Czech Republic2908 Posts

September 18 2010 21:22 GMT

#657

anyone else getting lag every few seconds? Or is it just my internet connection