On September 19 2010 04:47 SwiftBunny wrote: The way Orb did replays only showing the one at a time did a lot to prevent self-spoilering by watching the stream, djwheat having them all in the same folder is kind of spoilering after seeing select win that game and knowing it's a bo3
The file lists mean nothing, as Chill just mentioned these games are being played so close to cast time that the casters may not have the entire series when they begin casting.
TL isn't nearly dumb enough to have an obvious spoiler like that on its stream, get real.
Really disagree with Chill about loser picks map, I'd much prefer a tourney with set map pools the whole way, something like Courage with just 3 maps for the whole tournament. I don't wanna see tvp alternate between the best tvp maps and the best pvt maps, much rather just have players play on the most balanced maps. Plus players only have to prepare on a few maps, which could lead to some better games.
On September 19 2010 04:47 SwiftBunny wrote: The way Orb did replays only showing the one at a time did a lot to prevent self-spoilering by watching the stream, djwheat having them all in the same folder is kind of spoilering after seeing select win that game and knowing it's a bo3
The file lists mean nothing, as Chill just mentioned these games are being played so close to cast time that the casters may not have the entire series when they begin casting.
TL isn't nearly dumb enough to have an obvious spoiler like that on its stream, get real.
yeah it's not as though they'd show a bracket with the results of matches in the stream before casting the replay...
On September 19 2010 04:54 FabledIntegral wrote: Why have the reps been released already? People are spoiling entire tournament results in chat because it's anonymous... simply for the sake of being dicks.
why have chat open? dj's stream is so good you can fullscreen it, and it looks so nice
I wasn't exactly aware that people were going to spoil? They already said the winner of the tourney in chat, I won't spoil obviously but it's just retarded. I always enjoy having chat open, but I guess this will have to be the solution to not use it if TL goes the replay route, which I still strongly disagree with. Yeah, maintaining integrity is important, but it's a completely different situation in replays vs live.
What was the reason they couldn't do delayed streaming again? I know they said they couldn't, just wondering the reason why.
On September 19 2010 04:54 FabledIntegral wrote: Why have the reps been released already? People are spoiling entire tournament results in chat because it's anonymous... simply for the sake of being dicks.
why have chat open? dj's stream is so good you can fullscreen it, and it looks so nice
I wasn't exactly aware that people were going to spoil? They already said the winner of the tourney in chat, I won't spoil obviously but it's just retarded. I always enjoy having chat open, but I guess this will have to be the solution to not use it if TL goes the replay route, which I still strongly disagree with. Yeah, maintaining integrity is important, but it's a completely different situation in replays vs live.
What was the reason they couldn't do delayed streaming again? I know they said they couldn't, just wondering the reason why.
On September 19 2010 04:47 SwiftBunny wrote: The way Orb did replays only showing the one at a time did a lot to prevent self-spoilering by watching the stream, djwheat having them all in the same folder is kind of spoilering after seeing select win that game and knowing it's a bo3
The file lists mean nothing, as Chill just mentioned these games are being played so close to cast time that the casters may not have the entire series when they begin casting.
TL isn't nearly dumb enough to have an obvious spoiler like that on its stream, get real.
yeah it's not as though they'd show a bracket with the results of matches in the stream before casting the replay...
Totally!
To be fair though, there's a difference between an oversight (spoiling by file list which was obviously going to be on stream before games) and a one-time freak mistake (bracket popping on stream inadvertently). My point was that the casters are smart enough to avoid a stupid oversight. (Freak mistakes are prone to happen from time to time.)
On September 19 2010 04:54 FabledIntegral wrote: Why have the reps been released already? People are spoiling entire tournament results in chat because it's anonymous... simply for the sake of being dicks.
why have chat open? dj's stream is so good you can fullscreen it, and it looks so nice
I wasn't exactly aware that people were going to spoil? They already said the winner of the tourney in chat, I won't spoil obviously but it's just retarded. I always enjoy having chat open, but I guess this will have to be the solution to not use it if TL goes the replay route, which I still strongly disagree with. Yeah, maintaining integrity is important, but it's a completely different situation in replays vs live.
What was the reason they couldn't do delayed streaming again? I know they said they couldn't, just wondering the reason why.
To my knowledge the final isn't played yet.
Well someone spoiled this coming semi final. There is nothing to stop someone doing it again when the final is done.
On September 19 2010 04:54 FabledIntegral wrote: Why have the reps been released already? People are spoiling entire tournament results in chat because it's anonymous... simply for the sake of being dicks.
why have chat open? dj's stream is so good you can fullscreen it, and it looks so nice
I wasn't exactly aware that people were going to spoil? They already said the winner of the tourney in chat, I won't spoil obviously but it's just retarded. I always enjoy having chat open, but I guess this will have to be the solution to not use it if TL goes the replay route, which I still strongly disagree with. Yeah, maintaining integrity is important, but it's a completely different situation in replays vs live.
What was the reason they couldn't do delayed streaming again? I know they said they couldn't, just wondering the reason why.
To my knowledge the final isn't played yet.
Ah, it was both semi-finals that were spoiled. Someone went into the match histories of the players I guess to spoil.
On September 19 2010 04:54 FabledIntegral wrote: Why have the reps been released already? People are spoiling entire tournament results in chat because it's anonymous... simply for the sake of being dicks.
why have chat open? dj's stream is so good you can fullscreen it, and it looks so nice
I wasn't exactly aware that people were going to spoil? They already said the winner of the tourney in chat, I won't spoil obviously but it's just retarded. I always enjoy having chat open, but I guess this will have to be the solution to not use it if TL goes the replay route, which I still strongly disagree with. Yeah, maintaining integrity is important, but it's a completely different situation in replays vs live.
What was the reason they couldn't do delayed streaming again? I know they said they couldn't, just wondering the reason why.
Fair enough, I didn't think that people had spoiled other parts of the tourney. I guess you should be able to chat- but from experience you should know that spoilers are gonna arise.
On September 19 2010 04:54 FabledIntegral wrote: Why have the reps been released already? People are spoiling entire tournament results in chat because it's anonymous... simply for the sake of being dicks.
why have chat open? dj's stream is so good you can fullscreen it, and it looks so nice
I wasn't exactly aware that people were going to spoil? They already said the winner of the tourney in chat, I won't spoil obviously but it's just retarded. I always enjoy having chat open, but I guess this will have to be the solution to not use it if TL goes the replay route, which I still strongly disagree with. Yeah, maintaining integrity is important, but it's a completely different situation in replays vs live.
What was the reason they couldn't do delayed streaming again? I know they said they couldn't, just wondering the reason why.
To my knowledge the final isn't played yet.
Well someone spoiled this coming semi final. There is nothing to stop someone doing it again when the final is done.
That's preferred, compared to the alternative of the games themselves being spoiled, when players get additional information.
One reason is to do with eliminating any chance of players having the stream up on a second monitor or having a friend watching the stream and messaging one of the players info.
Reliable tech is just not available to delay a live stream significantly to get around the problem afaik.
On September 19 2010 05:14 Muffel wrote: im so damn angry about this replaycasting....its so bad whats the reason for that? is it because of these 2-3 progamers complaining about lags?
comparing it with zotac and go4sc2 its not even halt thrilling imo
well also ghosting (listening to the stream while playing), lags etc
EPT
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