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This will be the official thread for all the Pro KOTH's that we run on iCCup TV. These events are run at random and don't count for anything really but are generally a blast to watch! You will see the best players in the world go one off winner take all games. There is no prizes, just eternal glory! Instead of bumping Raelcun's blog about this a bunch of times we can create a nice central place for all this info! All maps from this point will be iCCup maps only WE WILL BE HAVING A PRO KOTH TONIGHT Sunday, Oct 24 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)Players signed up so far:Current King CatZ Results CatZ >  Pro @ iCCup Enigma CatZ >  Ryan @ iCCup God's Garden CatZ >  iDTelecom @ iCCup Fighting Spirit CatZ >  Neans @ iCCup Trcc CatZ >  Whiplash @ iCCup Violet Heights CatZ >  Random stream viewer grudge match called catz bad CatZ >  Gosu @ iCCup Starlight Breaker CatZ >  Bad @ iCCup Valhalla CatZ >  Drewbie @ iCCup Sungsu Crossing Previous Results+ Show Spoiler +Players overall records+ Show Spoiler +Statistics Per Date+ Show Spoiler +8/29/2010Longest Win Streak -  Axslav - 3 wins  vs.  - 3-1  vs.  - 2-1  vs.  - 1-3  vs.  - 0-1  vs.  - 1-2  vs.  - 1-0 9/2/2010Longest Win Streak -  SUGGY - 5 wins  vs.  - 2-1  vs.  - 3-1  vs.  - 1-2  vs.  - 1-2  vs.  - 1-3  vs.  - 2-1 9/11/2010Longest Win Streak -  Fenix - 8 wins  vs.  - 1-3  vs.  - 2-0  vs.  - 3-1  vs.  - 3-0  vs.  - 0-2  vs.  - 0-3 9/18/2010Longest Win Streak -  Azz - 5 wins  vs.  - 2-1  vs.  - 3-1  vs.  - 1-2  vs.  - 1-2  vs.  - 1-3  vs.  - 2-1 10/2/2010Longest Win Streak -  SUGGY - 6 wins  vs.  - 4-1  vs.  - 1-1  vs.  - 1-4  vs.  - 3-1  vs.  - 1-1  vs.  - 1-3 Overall Statistics+ Show Spoiler +Most Overall Wins:  SUGGY - 11 wins Longest Win Streak -  Fenix - 8 wins  vs.  - 12-7 - 63%  vs.  - 11-4 - 73%  vs. All: 23-11 - 68%  vs.  - 7-12 - 37%  vs.  - 8-6 - 57%  vs. All: 15-18 - 46%  vs.  - 4-11 - 27%  vs.  - 6-8 - 43%  vs. All: 10-18 - 36%
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Cant wait for this to start 3 am at europe atm but definatelly worth staying late for smth like that.
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Will probably tune in while doing homework. Cool stuff Diamond
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On August 30 2010 09:24 lorddimiter wrote: Cant wait for this to start 3 am at europe atm but definatelly worth staying late for smth like that.
Damn. You're a solider. Thank you very much :D!!!
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Best players in the world? I only know two of those players, and I watch sc2 alot
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Diamond what time is this happening?
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On August 30 2010 09:28 Pekkz wrote:Best players in the world? I only know two of those players, and I watch sc2 alot 
This week will be sort of light. A LOT of players are still in North Carolina. But if you have seen any of our previous ones you would know what's up !
On August 30 2010 09:35 GenoZStriker wrote: Diamond what time is this happening?
Starts at 9PM EST
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Nice nice. Looking forward to it!
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cant wait to watch with some sauseges
what stream is it on?
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On August 30 2010 10:02 sNes. wrote: cant wait to watch with some sauseges
what stream is it on?
iCCup TV yo!
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SHIT! Hitting quote instead of edit kills at least 10 kittens a day .
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Sorry to ask so much Diamond XD but best-of-3 or best-of-1?
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iggnite.623 Protoss Diamond 800~
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On August 30 2010 10:21 GenoZStriker wrote: Sorry to ask so much Diamong XD but best-of-3 or best-of-1?
I had to double take on Diamong but Bo1.
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ima reset my laptop to get wired connection first and i will join (if raelcun need people :D)
NoBody.586 Protoss
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that is a lot of ling and lots
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Man CatZ sure knows how to put on a show.
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I'm confused why players not on the list are playing. Not that I mind
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dave.780 1200 diamond zerg
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On August 30 2010 11:57 gogogadgetflow wrote: I'm confused why players not on the list are playing. Not that I mind
A lot of them are laddering or afk. They will play soon
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This is not an open sign up guys. If you are a player we (ie: iCCup TV) knows and has worked with feel free to PM me but it's only for the highest level players. Sorry.
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Some cool games last night! Thanks for inviting me Diamond - it was fun. I didn't get a chance to watch all of the matches unfortunately... do you know if Raelcun was recording last night and it'll appear as a VOD, or was it unrecorded?
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We will be having another Pro KOTH tonight starting at 9PM EST on iCCup TV!!
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WE WILL BE HAVING A PRO KOTH TONIGHT (9/11/10)!!!
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Need... moar players. Four so far including CatZ and TT1 get your (pro) friends to post here or message us.
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Players Currently Signed Up:Looky (Z) TT1 (P) ReachTheSky (T) Gretorp (T) Trump (T) Telecom (Z) Blade Results + Show Spoiler + TT1 (P) > Spades (T) TT1 (P) > Ryze (Z) TT1 (P) > CatZ (Z) TT1 (P) > HuK (P) TT1 (P) < Fenix (T) CellaWeRRa (Z) < Fenix (T) Trump (T) < Fenix (T) srsRZRdlovan (P) < Fenix (T) PheonixWeRRa vs. Fenix (T)
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looks sweet well watch a couple games.
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On September 12 2010 10:35 blade55555 wrote: looks sweet well watch a couple games.
Why don't you jump in the queue to play ?
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On September 12 2010 10:36 iCCup.TV wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2010 10:35 blade55555 wrote: looks sweet well watch a couple games. Why don't you jump in the queue to play  ?
I'll play guess I could msg realcun
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This is a really nitpicky thing, but the way you're posting results makes it a bit hard to follow. The way it should look is
A > B A > C A > D A < E F < E G > E
Too often you'll flip the position of the winner:
A > B A > C A > D A < E E > F G > E
this makes it suuuper hard to see those sexy streaks i love xD
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On September 12 2010 10:44 Day[9] wrote:+ Show Spoiler +This is a really nitpicky thing, but the way you're posting results makes it a bit hard to follow. The way it should look is
A > B A > C A > D A < E F < E G > E
Too often you'll flip the position of the winner:
A > B A > C A > D A < E E > F G > E
this makes it suuuper hard to see those sexy streaks i love xD
Noted sir. I'm all over it. Day9 ftw! U should come and play d00d!
Edit: Is that better now??
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TT1 OBVIOUSLY LISTENING TO THE STREAM
jk gg
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On September 12 2010 11:11 HuK wrote:TT1 OBVIOUSLY LISTENING TO THE STREAM jk gg 
lol great game! Sooooooooo many forcefields!!!!
Thanks for coming by HuK! Good to have u back man!
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Uh oh!!!! Looks like CellaWeRRa is going to stop by for some KOTH action!!!
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On September 12 2010 10:44 Day[9] wrote: This is a really nitpicky thing, but the way you're posting results makes it a bit hard to follow. The way it should look is
A > B A > C A > D A < E F < E G > E
Too often you'll flip the position of the winner:
A > B A > C A > D A < E E > F G > E
this makes it suuuper hard to see those sexy streaks i love xD
not sure if this trollan...
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On September 12 2010 11:22 Rawenkeke wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2010 10:44 Day[9] wrote: This is a really nitpicky thing, but the way you're posting results makes it a bit hard to follow. The way it should look is
A > B A > C A > D A < E F < E G > E
Too often you'll flip the position of the winner:
A > B A > C A > D A < E E > F G > E
this makes it suuuper hard to see those sexy streaks i love xD not sure if this trollan...
I'm hoping you know who Day 9 is...
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Need more zergs in there =)!!
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On September 12 2010 11:23 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2010 11:22 Rawenkeke wrote:On September 12 2010 10:44 Day[9] wrote: This is a really nitpicky thing, but the way you're posting results makes it a bit hard to follow. The way it should look is
A > B A > C A > D A < E F < E G > E
Too often you'll flip the position of the winner:
A > B A > C A > D A < E E > F G > E
this makes it suuuper hard to see those sexy streaks i love xD not sure if this trollan... I'm hoping you know who Day 9 is... He doesn't. But Mr. Plott might be trollin anyways. Anyway, Day, come play with us.
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Is there a history list of the matches played in this KotH ?
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he wasn't trolling, he says that they used to make it:
A < E E > F
instead of
A < E F < E
which is what you guys probably didn't see within the example results
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On September 12 2010 11:57 upinthis wrote: he wasn't trolling, he says that they used to make it:
A < E E > F
instead of
A < E F < E
which is what you guys probably didn't see within the example results
Yeah he was not trolling. As usual, Day9 was right !
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Or maybe he was trolling by not trolling.
Think about it.
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Grats to Terran* on a 5 win streak, his race** is really good
edit: Fenix* and playstyle**
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Man Fnatic is killing it! 10-1 (the one loss was TT1 losing to Fenix lol).
Can anyone stop them?
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Who is up next? Is there a list of players somewhere?
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Really liked seeing the iccup maps. Such a nice break from blizzard's crap.
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On September 12 2010 13:56 dizzy101 wrote: Who is up next? Is there a list of players somewhere?
We are done for the night.
Fnatic MSI pulled an all kill going 11-1 (only loss being Fenix beating TT1)! Pretty crazy. HuK, CatZ, Drewbie, CellaWeRRa, PheonixWeRRa, Trump, Azz, Telecom and more all drop to TT1 and Fenix! Wild night!
We will be now doing these events every Saturday night from now forward!
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I love these KOTH matches, one of my favorite things to watch.
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On September 12 2010 13:10 _Darwin_ wrote: Grats to Terran* on a 5 win streak, his race** is really good
edit: Fenix* and playstyle** fenix is one of those few terrans which let you lose with a clear consciousness knowing that you lost to the better player.
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On September 12 2010 14:09 Pyrthas wrote: Really liked seeing the iccup maps. Such a nice break from blizzard's crap. I will second this
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On September 12 2010 14:21 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2010 13:10 _Darwin_ wrote: Grats to Terran* on a 5 win streak, his race** is really good
edit: Fenix* and playstyle** fenix is one of those few terrans which let you lose with a clear consciousness knowing that you lost to the better player.
Very well put and very true.
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Awesome can't wait to play in the next one I hope :D
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On September 12 2010 14:29 Ordained wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2010 14:09 Pyrthas wrote: Really liked seeing the iccup maps. Such a nice break from blizzard's crap. I will second this
I agree as well. Didn't ICCup TV have matches played on iccup maps before? I remember seeing destination/fighting spirit and some newly made maps.
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(Most) Tuesday nights there's the ICCup Map Series, where we have top players duke it out on our latest matches.
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-.,-.. terran is unstopibol
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WHite-Ra so cute.
I heard that TT1 and Fenix are imbalance.
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dunno about me but pvting vs fenix is a bitch
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are there VODs/reps anywhere? if yes, why is there no link....or am I just too stupid to find it?
On September 13 2010 06:51 iamtt1 wrote: dunno about me but pvting vs fenix is a bitch
ah, just 10 gate into chrono-1st-zealot into 15 core into 21 stargate into mass-voidrays; works extremely well....
...I've read....somewhere
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There will be another KOTH TONIGHT starting at 8PM EST!
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We got a pretty damn good lineup already rolling for tonight? Can Fnatic MSI all kill the world again??
Players signed up thus far Fenix Machine Gretorp CatZ Stalife Masq Silver Telecom Lexvink Azz LzGaMeR
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Great line up so far, cant wait.
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Hyrule19026 Posts
It's about to start. Tune in!
Many of the contestants are playing in another tournament, so we are starting a little later than planned.
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First game! Inflow in-fighting Gaming Lexvink vs Spades
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On September 19 2010 09:19 tofucake wrote: First game! Inflow in-fighting Gaming Lexvink vs Spades
I was really expecting that post to be from Alou....
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Sorry for the problems with that one. ustream apparently is having a nervous breakdown.
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On September 19 2010 09:58 tofucake wrote: Sorry for the problems with that one. ustream apparently is having a nervous breakdown.
That was the strangest shit ever. I almost had a heart attack I thought someone stole our stream....
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I wasn't too worried about that when I realized it was Chris Pirillo. He's a pretty big guy, who does stuff for CNN and YouTube and stuff.
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On September 19 2010 10:01 tofucake wrote: I wasn't too worried about that when I realized it was Chris Pirillo. He's a pretty big guy, who does stuff for CNN and YouTube and stuff.
Lol I didn't know who it was.
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I have no idea what's going on guys please be patient....
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If any mods are avaliable can you please re set up the event on the calender?
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My bad, I opened it up and it was running vods so I assumed it was over.
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There is constant lag today, don't know if its on Raelcuns part (if so, stop dling pr0n ;p ) or the stream site, just wanted to let you know.
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On September 19 2010 10:35 R1CH wrote: My bad, I opened it up and it was running vods so I assumed it was over.
No problem R1CH. For some reason our stream keeps switching with Chris Pirillo's stream. Got any ideas R1CH?
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permabanned from chat for saying combatex is online? very professional, guys.
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On September 19 2010 10:58 mikehall683 wrote: permabanned from chat for saying combatex is online? very professional, guys.
Don't come into our chat telling people to watch other streams. Makes sense to me. Plus it's Combat EX who rigged iCCup maps. Double whammy.
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 19 2010 11:00 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 10:58 mikehall683 wrote: permabanned from chat for saying combatex is online? very professional, guys. Don't come into our chat telling people to watch other streams. Makes sense to me. Plus it's Combat EX who rigged iCCup maps. Double whammy. it was a joke...
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On September 19 2010 11:01 mikehall683 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 19 2010 11:00 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 10:58 mikehall683 wrote: permabanned from chat for saying combatex is online? very professional, guys. Don't come into our chat telling people to watch other streams. Makes sense to me. Plus it's Combat EX who rigged iCCup maps. Double whammy. it was a joke...
Please PM me your IRC screen name and I will have you unbanned this time.
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Ah should be fun. Maybe this time I can actually get thrown in
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I swear I'm going to Chris Pirillo's house and burning that chair...
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So does Pirillo just leave his stream running all the time? Seems like a waste.
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Im in love with slush.
And his orange zergs.
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He's had like 30 Zerglings in the overlords for like 5 minutes T_T
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what the... How did he end up winning that?
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Raelcun calling that slush vs stalife game a comeback... Stalife had 170 supply to slush's 110 consistently while he was attacking. I dunno what he is thinking when terran is on equal bases with zerg.
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On September 19 2010 12:07 CaptainFwiffo wrote:![[image loading]](http://i52.tinypic.com/23haqt2.jpg)
OMG I LOL'd SOOOOOOO HARD!!!!
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For those who are curious, I believe Chris Perillo's screensaver is Electric Sheep which uses distributed computing.
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I chairished every moment of this stream.
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that looks like a very comfortable chair =D
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bWtDD.jpg)
[edit] Notice the URL at the top.
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Quite an eventful night, combined with Cella-missing scandal, iCCup.TV has had an exciting week.
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This has to be the dumbest yet funniest shit ever.
Forget rick rolling we are being chair rolled
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Raelcun got chaired.
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damn, tofu.. beat me to it! 
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That is the strangest glitch I've ever seen on ustream.
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On September 19 2010 12:27 Tenks wrote: That is the strangest glitch I've ever seen on ustream.
Agreed. This is unbelievable.
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At least it got resolved ... somehow. I had faith iCCupTV never lets me down.
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On September 19 2010 12:30 Tenks wrote: At least it got resolved ... somehow. I had faith iCCupTV never lets me down. Not yet it hasn't. Not much we can do about it, since the problem is on ustream's end.
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![[image loading]](http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp125/draknar/ChairTTD.jpg)
2 minute photoshop + bad puns ftw
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On September 19 2010 12:40 JuGunYong wrote: JuGunYong 833 1500~
Quality first post man. This is not a open sign up.
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i lost the chair game ¯\(°_o)/¯
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On September 19 2010 12:36 Everhate wrote: *pic*
2 minute photoshop + bad puns ftw
Bad puns totally ftw. Awesome job.
Awesome job to Raelcun too, don't let the chair get you down.
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this is too surreal to handle for me atm :O
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Chair game, same as the Game, except you replace "game" with "chair."
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Chair is currently winning KoTH 5-0
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On September 19 2010 12:49 SlowBlink wrote: Chair is currently winning KoTH 5-0
OMG I'M CRYING I'M LOL'ING SO HARD!!!!
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Its so tense, every time the stream dies for a second I think we're getting chaired again.
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Raelcun-Spider relations are currently strained by the Chair. Hopefully things improve, lest Spider becomes a paste on Raelcun's wall.
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Do you question the wisdom and power and glory of the almighty chair? The chair is all that was and all that will ever be. The chair is home to space and master of time. The chair can see into your soul. The chair will rise at the end of time and judge mankind for its sins. Bow before the chair.
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On September 19 2010 12:54 Kanil wrote: Raelcun-Spider relations are currently strained by the Chair. Hopefully things improve, lest Spider becomes a paste on Raelcun's wall.
On September 19 2010 12:56 Sentient wrote: Do you question the wisdom and power and glory of the almighty chair? The chair is all that was and all that will ever be. The chair is home to space and master of time. The chair can see into your soul. The chair will rise at the end of time and judge mankind for its sins. Bow before the chair.
I love the SC community. You guys have helped turn the oddest and most annoying feature ever into a hilarious night.
Thanks for understanding everyone. This is the first and only problem we have had with Ustream and the FIRST time they have not responded to an email within 15 minutes so don't hate on them to bad or the chair will come for you.
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try refreshing when i did it went back to the game.
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I seriously... wtf that was so stupid. There is no logical explination on how that happens. When it first started happening I was showing on his stream so it was a 2 way switch. But at the end it was just him stomping over me. Ustream better figure this shit out cuz I dont want to have to deal with that during the ESL cup tomorrow.
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So, I have written from scratch* a completely** original*** work which I call: The Chair
Once upon a Saturday night dreary, while I pondered balance and theory, Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore, While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping, As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my stream door. "Tis some visitor," I muttered, "tapping at my stream door - Only this, and nothing more."
Ah, distinctly I remember it was in the Pro KOTH, And each separate dying player wrought its ghost upon the floor. Eagerly I wished the battle; - vainly I had sought to prattle From my streams surcease of chattle - chattle of the lost swarm - For the rare and radiant maiden whom the angels named the Chair whore. Nameless and here for evermore.
And the silken sad uncertain rustling of each purple creeplord Thrilled me - filled me with fantastic terrors never felt before; So that now, to still the beating of my heart, I stood repeating "Tis some visitor entreating the chat at my stream's door - Some late visitor entreating the chat at my stream's door; - This it is, and nothing more,"
Presently my sould grew stronger; hesitating then no longer, "Sir," said I, "or Madam, truly your forgiveness I implore; But the said fact is I was observing, and so gently you came unnerving, And so faintly you came tapping, tapping, at my stream's door, That I scarce was sure I heard you" - here I opened wide the door; - Chair there, and nothing more.
Deep into that Chair peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before; But the silence wasunbroken, and the chair gave no token, And the only word there spoken was the whispered word, "Chair!" This I whispered, an echo murmured back the word, "Chair!" Merely this and nothing more.
Back into the stream turning, all my soul within me burning, Soon again I heard a tapping, something louder than before, "Surely," said I, "surely, that is something at my stream lattice. Let me see, then, what thereat is, and this mystery explore. Let my heart be still a moment, and this mystery explore." "Tis the stream, and nothing more."
Open here I flung the chat, when, with many a flirt and flutter, In there stepped a stately chair, of the saintly streams of youre. Not the least obeisance made it, not a minute stopped or stayed he; But with mien of lord or lady, perched above my stream door. Perched upon a possibly a floor of wood, just above my stream door, Perched, and sat, and nothing more.
Then this ebony chair beguiling my sad fancy into smiling, By the grave and stern decorum of the desk it wore, "Though thy desk be shorn and shaven thou," I said, "art sure no bear, Ghastly, grim, and ancient chair, wandering from the nightly shore. Tell me what the lordly name is on the Night's Plutonian shore." Quoth the chair, "Chris Pirillo's Chair."
Much I marvelled this ungainly ass support device to hear discourse so plainly, Though its answer little meaning, little relevancy bore; For we cannot help agreeing that no living human being Ever yet was blessed with seeing chair above his stream door, Stool or bench upon the video above his stream door, With such a name as "Chris Pirillo's Chair."
But the chair, sitting lonely at that placid desk, spoke only That one phrase, as if its soul in that one phrase he did outpour. Nothing further then it uttered; not a stitch then he fluttered; Till I scarcely more than muttered, "Other friends have sat before; On the morrow he will leave me, as my hopes have sat before." Then the chair said, "Chris Pirillo's Chair."
Startled at the stillness broken by reply so aptly spoken, "!911," said I, "what it utters is its only stock and store, Caught from some afk master, whom unmerciful disaster Followed fast and followed faster, till his asscushion on burden bore, - Till the dirges of his hope that melancholy burden bore Of "Chris Pirillo's - Chris Pirillo's Chair."
But the chair still beguiling all my sad soul into smiling, Straight I wheeled a chat pause in from of the chair, and desk, and screensaver; Then, upon the leather sinking, I betook myself into linking Troll unto troll, thinking what this ominous chair of yore - What this grim, ungainly, ghastly, gaunt and ominous chair of yore Meant in croaking "Chris Pirillo's Chair."
Thou I sat engaged in trolling, but no syllable expressing To the fowl, whose fiery eyes now burned into my banhammer's core; This and more I sat divining, with my head at ease reclining On the stream's paused chat lining that the monitor light gloated o'er, But whose stream's paused chat lining with the monitor light gloating o'er It shall press, ah, Chris Pirillo's Chair!
Then, methought, the air grew denser, perfumed from an unseen ustream admin Swung by seraphim whose footfalls tinkled on the stream's chat. "Wretch," I cried, "thy God hath lent thee - by these angels he hath Sent thee chair - chair and nepenth from thy memorys of ICCup TV Pro KOTH! Quaff, o quaff this kind of nepenth, and forget this ICCup TV Pro KOTH!" Quoth the chair, "Chris Pirillo's chair!"
"Admin!" said I, "thing of evil! - prophet still, is glitch or devil! Whether hacker sent, or whether tempest tossed thee here ashore, Desolate, yet all undaunted, on this stream land enchanted - On this home by horror haunted - tell me truly, I implore: Is there - is there a cure to chair? - tell me - tell me I implore!" Quoth the chair, "Chris Pirillo's chair!"
"Admin!" said I, "thing of evil! - prophet still, is glitch or devil! By that heaven that bends above us - by that Admin we both adore - Tell this chair with sorrow laden, if, within the distant future It shall clasp a sainted stream, whom the angels name ICCup TV Pro KOTH - Clasp a rare and radiant stream, whom the angels name ICCup TV Pro KOTH?" Quoth the chair, "Chris Pirillo's chair!"
"Be that chair our sign of parting, chair or fiend!" I shrieked, upstarting - "Get thee back into your own stream and the Night's Plutonian shore! Leave no hint as a token of that lie thy chair hath spoken! Leave my stream unbroken! - quit the stream above my stream! Take thy stitching from out my heart, and take they form from off my stream!" Quoth the chair, "Chris Pirillo's chair!"
And the chair, never faltering, still is stitting, still is sitting On the pallid window of SC2 just above my stream's door; And his screensavers have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming. And the monitor lamplight o'er him streaming throws its shadow on the floor; And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor Shall be screwed - Chris Pirillo's chair!
Fuck you chair.
*This is a lie **For a given value of "completely" ***Totally not original at all
[edit] Final version
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We will be having a Pro KOTH TONIGHT starting at 8PM EDT!!!!! Hopefully the chair will not be with us this time..
Mods: Can this get added to the calendar? I messaged Bro0D but he appears to be afk.
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WOW SUGGY rocking out the 6 match win streak! SICK!
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I like the mass Voidrays by suggy :D is the stream freezing for anyone else or just my shitty computer?
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Really nice force fields by Axslav. Those pretty much decided the game for him.
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On October 03 2010 11:31 GenoZStriker wrote: Really nice force fields by Axslav. Those pretty much decided the game for him.
Yea very impressive play!
Man it's sick when you are so good at 7 pooling you win with it when your opponent KNOWS it's coming ! <3 CatZ
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On October 03 2010 11:04 WaZuP wrote: I like the mass Voidrays by suggy :D is the stream freezing for anyone else or just my shitty computer?
haha i got bored. next time ill go for the longest win streak possible instead of getting silly. hope you guys enjoyed it
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On October 03 2010 15:38 SUGGY wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2010 11:04 WaZuP wrote: I like the mass Voidrays by suggy :D is the stream freezing for anyone else or just my shitty computer? haha i got bored. next time ill go for the longest win streak possible instead of getting silly. hope you guys enjoyed it
You did great and have the most overall wins ! Now longest win streak and your a KOTH legend! lol
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By the way the longest win streak is by Fenix with 8 wins, not 7.
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On October 03 2010 15:56 ThePrince wrote: By the way the longest win streak is by Fenix with 8 wins, not 7.
Fixed. Really should not have decided to do all those stats starting at 1AM. If anyone finds any more mistakes let me know..
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Suggy got 6 wins on 9/2 and that brings his total wins to 12 not 11
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Is there going to be an ICCUP TV challenge any point soon?
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On October 03 2010 15:58 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2010 15:56 ThePrince wrote: By the way the longest win streak is by Fenix with 8 wins, not 7. Fixed. Really should not have decided to do all those stats starting at 1AM. If anyone finds any more mistakes let me know.. No mirrors ever?
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We will be having our first ever BO3 KOTH tonight! For the bigger event we will be offering $25 to any player that can win 5 series in a row!!!
Note: This IS NOT an open sign up event
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$25 seems kind of low for winning 5 events...why not $5 to each nights overall best player?
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On October 05 2010 06:13 tofucake wrote: $25 seems kind of low for winning 5 events...why not $5 to each nights overall best player?
No no 5 straight wins just tonight. I'm just using money out of my pocket for this one, wish I could dedicate more.
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wow that's amazing! I'm totally up for this :D
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On October 05 2010 06:24 Antimage wrote: wow that's amazing! I'm totally up for this :D
Ok I threw you in ! Thank you!
Edit: YAY! HuK is in!!!!
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Wow sounds fun can't wait to watch :D
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wow huk is starting and its bo3
this is awesome !
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yay can't wait to watch this!
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huk the crybaby brings things to a halt. really good manner
if you don't want to play the maps for a tournament then don't play the tournament
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funny how this is a fun tournament and people take it so gd serious. GG huk
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seemed pretty clear he didn't like custom maps, why didn't you just host metal?
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HuK = turbo douche
that was the most ridiculous thing ive seen on a stream
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fuck huk is retard.. sorry for that kind comment but it's pretty dum to jsut refuse to paly on any god dam map..
Just dont join those kind of tourney if you don't really wana to play.. plenty of good manner player out here.
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On October 05 2010 09:37 Antoine wrote: seemed pretty clear he didn't like custom maps, why didn't you just host metal?
he could have just said which map he wanted between xnc and metal instead of the childish "non-retarded" map requirement that only he understands
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On October 05 2010 09:37 Antoine wrote: seemed pretty clear he didn't like custom maps, why didn't you just host metal? "All maps from this point will be iCCup maps only"
stands right at the top of that KOTH thread. is it so hard to understand?
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On October 05 2010 09:39 c0rn1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:37 Antoine wrote: seemed pretty clear he didn't like custom maps, why didn't you just host metal? "All maps from this point will be iCCup maps only" stands right at the top of that KOTH thread. is it so hard to understand?
and then he says that metal and xel naga are in the map pool, and i said go make metal and he acts like i never said it just makes random custom maps again
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That's better than any soap opera.
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On October 05 2010 09:41 Demand2k wrote:Here's more community response from IRC
Could you please upload a bigger version of the pic? want to know what happened?
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On October 05 2010 09:41 Liquid`HuK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:39 c0rn1 wrote:On October 05 2010 09:37 Antoine wrote: seemed pretty clear he didn't like custom maps, why didn't you just host metal? "All maps from this point will be iCCup maps only" stands right at the top of that KOTH thread. is it so hard to understand? and then he says that metal and xel naga are in the map pool, and i said go make metal and he acts like i never said it just makes random custom maps again
for what it's worth, i don't think anyone saw you say "go make metal" amongst viewers or casters. maybe try repeating yourself next time when it doesn't seem like someone heard you
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On October 05 2010 09:41 Liquid`HuK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:39 c0rn1 wrote:On October 05 2010 09:37 Antoine wrote: seemed pretty clear he didn't like custom maps, why didn't you just host metal? "All maps from this point will be iCCup maps only" stands right at the top of that KOTH thread. is it so hard to understand? and then he says that metal and xel naga are in the map pool, and i said go make metal and he acts like i never said it just makes random custom maps again
yeah alright - you said 'non-retarded' as criteria, and he's meant to know that = metal?
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On October 05 2010 09:41 Liquid`HuK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:39 c0rn1 wrote:On October 05 2010 09:37 Antoine wrote: seemed pretty clear he didn't like custom maps, why didn't you just host metal? "All maps from this point will be iCCup maps only" stands right at the top of that KOTH thread. is it so hard to understand? and then he says that metal and xel naga are in the map pool, and i said go make metal and he acts like i never said it just makes random custom maps again
You dident say go metal or it dident show up in his chat. You can easy read chat of stream and none saw you say that.
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On October 05 2010 09:41 Liquid`HuK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:39 c0rn1 wrote:On October 05 2010 09:37 Antoine wrote: seemed pretty clear he didn't like custom maps, why didn't you just host metal? "All maps from this point will be iCCup maps only" stands right at the top of that KOTH thread. is it so hard to understand? and then he says that metal and xel naga are in the map pool, and i said go make metal and he acts like i never said it just makes random custom maps again
You were very rude about the entire thing. I personally missed a "Make metal" in chat when in full screen viewing mode. If you said it, you should have repeated it rather than just declining maps and expecting Raelcun to understand. It may be a small event, but you should have still been respectful rather than cursing about how much you dislike the iCCup maps. Poor showing.
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Awesome, great way to show off the new maps guys, this is sweet. Thank you!
On October 05 2010 09:41 Liquid`HuK wrote: and then he says that metal and xel naga are in the map pool, and i said go make metal and he acts like i never said it just makes random custom maps again Err I was watching the live stream and from his screen anyways you def never picked a map... w/e not a big deal
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On October 05 2010 09:41 Liquid`HuK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 09:39 c0rn1 wrote:On October 05 2010 09:37 Antoine wrote: seemed pretty clear he didn't like custom maps, why didn't you just host metal? "All maps from this point will be iCCup maps only" stands right at the top of that KOTH thread. is it so hard to understand? and then he says that metal and xel naga are in the map pool, and i said go make metal and he acts like i never said it just makes random custom maps again As has been said above, no viewers or Raelcun saw you say "go metal." Granted with context clues Raelcun probably could have figured out that you wanted either Metal or Xel'Naga, but it certainly wasn't explicitly stated. Oh well, looks like it was just an unfortunate misunderstanding.
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river point looks like fun
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On October 05 2010 09:41 Liquid`HuK wrote:
and then he says that metal and xel naga are in the map pool, and i said go make metal and he acts like i never said it just makes random custom maps again
HuK, as much as I admire your gameplay I still do not understand why you not just said explicitly again to open up metal or host it yourself and invite him then play. Such things are just fueling a fire nobody would want at all. Since sc2 got so popular you have so many people just waiting for someone to get off on something and as a player and representative of this very community I think you'd be better off by sometimes taking the sour grape and care for your reputation.
I just do not understand behaviour like this in fun tournaments or tournaments at all. Your reputation and gameplay is what makes YOU money in the gaming business.
cheers
c0rn1
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yeah he didnt say make metal at all he was just insulting raelcun the whole time
then he says "i hope iccup gets better casters" really?
i hope huk wouldnt tilt after losing a game and bother to pick a map
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I have to say I think HuK is a goood player but I lost a lot of respect for him watching him act like a child tonight
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He should apologize, you know like star soccer players have to apologize too when they misbehave.
Beautiful map BTW!
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god im watching drewbie vs taurent
freaking scvs behind the PF repairing it makes me so mad... just so freaking annoyed watching them
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I'll let them know Neans but we are doing Bo3 tonight and I think the list is pretty long already.
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Alright, TheGunRun! Loving the games, sad about the Huk situation. Thanks for putting this all together, it's my first time seeing a lot of these maps.
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Wow at HuK. Why does such a good player have to be so rude?
"Liquid's players are known for their strong, creative play and also for their positive attitudes and professional demeanors."
Might wanna change that now that HuK is on the team.
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Ok I just check for my information if Raelcun missed him saying Metal (which he did not) and I was even more appalled by what HuK did after reading it in detail.
*Edited out per mod request*
"Liquid's players are known for their strong, creative play and also for their positive attitudes and professional demeanors."
Really?
Well anyways, enough about HuK, just business as usual I guess. Best of luck at IEM and MLG HuK (I really do mean that)!
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HuK seems like some immature dick.
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Pretty ridiculous @HuK.....
At least the taurent v drewbie series is awesome.
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i had a really rough day guys with some personal issues, then didn't play so well all day, just really stressed and what not. I know my behavior isn't excusable and I'm sorry you will NEVER see me like that again. I was joking with raelcun at the beginning like we usually do when things like iccup maps, streaming, or anything else comes up that we don't agree upon; either way despite me having VERY different views on what actually happened
ill be editing this soon
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First to start off I would like to say I had a really bad day with personal stuff and it was probably unwise to play in this to begin with, but knowing that diamond loves to see my play and others as well I figured I could; even told Diamond I didn't care about the 20$ or w/e he was offering. Just really wanted to play and have fun with some old faces (because I hadn't been active in ITL as of late).
Either way I never meant for anything I said to take seriously, anyone who knows me knows that if I know them long enough that I just talk like that time to time as a joke. Kind of immature and stupid how guy friends will call each other pussies, fag, retard, w/e; I never actually meant to insult handicap people or anything like that. I wish I could take it back because I didn't realize it was going to be blown up into this huge thing; and being part of team liquid I don't want to ever represent myself or my team in a bad way (which I definitely did tonight). My old team VT, all the root guys, and practically anyone who has known me for any length of time whether it be in real life or over battle.net where I get to a certain comfort zone with them know this.
So sorry for my behavior but I never meant it in an offensive way and really was just being myself, but if I have to I can act super polite/robot like in everything I do too.
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I don't think it was completely out of line from HuK. It was clear he was frustrated, and that isn't very different from other people when something that wasn't expected or not used to occurs, and having just lost to drewbie probably didn't make his mood better.
granted his language was uncalled for, but apart from the language he stated, there wasn't too much directed totally at raelcun or iccup that i think peopel are blowing it up as. if you talk to huk anytime he'll be "badmanner" in a joking method, are you saying that you all as viewers have never called one of your friends a "newb" or something? i talk to huk on occasion and its clear alan(raelcun) does (as he knows everybody that there IS to know)
i believe the maps with huk claiming to have selected metal as being simply a misunderstanding, as when talking to him after he says that both diamond and catz were informed that he wanted metal (i'm not saying it did happen, nor am i saying it didn't, i'm just reporting what he said) and in our iccuptv skype chat Diamond did state "go metal" so there could have just been a bit of miscommunication between the casters and huk
he did state that iccuptv "needs new casters" which was a direct shot at us (as i was one of the casters at the time of the dilemma), but after having been in furstration and trying to figure out what the map was gonna be and having it take so long, also understandable, and I take no personal offense to it.
once again this is just my personal opinion, i'm just saying cut him some slack, it was a mistake that anyone could make, and let's just move on with the iccup event!
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Huk the next idrA lol that would be so awesome
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Drewbie and Taurent matches were sweet. I really like River Point as a map.
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Ok I want to move past this so I will clarify our stance after talking with HuK.
1: HuK thought he said Metal, he did not. 2: CatZ, me, and Ryan all said Metal to Raelcun, however it is his position to only accept map requests from the player directly. 3: HuK refused to type "Metal" or "Metalopoils" and instead called Raelcun names (not in a joking manner). 4: HuK was out of line and disqualified, no further action would have or has been taken.
I really do wish HuK the best in the future as he is no longer willing to play in any of our events. I STILL am a MASSIVE HuK fanboy, but I cannot take his side on this one. I really mean that, I have been on HuK's fan train since forever. I think he will do wonders for the Protoss race and maybe our paths will cross again in the future, but for now we will part ways.
With that in mind! INSANE good games tonight!
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On October 05 2010 10:27 Liquid`HuK wrote: i had a really rough day guys with some personal issues, then didn't play so well all day, just really stressed and what not. I know my behavior isn't excusable and I'm sorry you will NEVER see me like that again. I was joking with raelcun at the beginning like we usually do when things like iccup maps, streaming, or anything else comes up that we don't agree upon; either way despite me having VERY different views on what actually happened
ill be editing this soon
problem?
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he stated it was personal. dont believe it necessary to pry into an individual's life outside of a videogame
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On October 05 2010 10:48 RyanRushia wrote: he stated it was personal. dont believe it necessary to pry into an individual's life outside of a videogame
Could not agree more. That is no one's business besides his own.
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Everyone has moments like that. Hardly a big deal. Especially considering Taurent was awesome as a fill-in.
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Guys Huk is not a bm player, he likes to joke around with people and not be serious, this is a pretty normal jocular attitude towards other players, he isn't genuinely mad at raelcun just messing around. I know both of these guys and if I recall Huk has been playing on iccup tv since early beta.
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it looks pretty bad though
like i can see how he could just be messing around but huk should probably use a little more discretion in who he interacts like that with
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From insulting mentally handicapped people, to calling Raelcun a retard, to even going as far to say iCCup TV needs better casters
This is such a hilarious statement. Insulting mentally handicapped people, yeah that's bad. Calling someone a retard, yeah that's sorta bad...but wait, to GO SO FAR as to say iccup needs better casters!! Omg!
This is like the 5th caster vs player conflict in a month or something. Everyone takes themselves too seriously.
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Yes, HuK's demeanor isn't top-quality here. But it's justified to a certain extent with the exclusion of any and all non-Starcraft 2 related matters.
His mannerisms towards Raelcun is stacked with frustration, personal anger [that should be controlled nonetheless, not disagreeing here], disagreement and just poor communication between all parties involved. The names and insults named are just the emphasizing points of the sentiments I just named above. If it was someone else instead of Raelcun talking, I'm sure the insults would be the same and equally intended as non-personal and vents of frustration. Plus it's just HuK's general mannerisms, It's a pseudo tough-love and odd articulation and vocabulary. Being blunt isn't having poor manners, though the choice of words can be argued as poor manners, but then again: It's how HuK acts and isn't intended to be insulting or demeaning.
Again, not justifying, but submitting a form of understanding and taking these actions and words from another perspective.
He apologized, let's build a bridge over these troubled waters.
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Man Drewbie is KILLING it today! Very nice! Going to be going into IEM strong!
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I've known HuK for about 8 months now and anyone that has knows him can tell you right off the bat that he's just joking around. From what I've heard Raelcun knew that HuK is just messing around.
So the question is if Raelcun is fine and HuK was just joking around as shown in the post above then why is Diamond posting for Raelcun making it seem like HuK is some sort of evil nazi who hates handicap people...
"From insulting mentally handicapped people, to calling Raelcun a retard, to even going as far to say iCCup TV needs better casters" - iCCup.Diamond
are u serious? relax....
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On October 05 2010 11:33 GoddeR wrote: I've known HuK for about 8 months now and anyone that has knows him can tell you right off the bat that he's just joking around. From what I've heard Raelcun knew that HuK is just messing around.
So the question is if Raelcun is fine and HuK was just joking around as shown in the post above then why is Diamond posting for Raelcun making it seem like HuK is some sort of evil nazi who hates handicap people...
"From insulting mentally handicapped people, to calling Raelcun a retard, to even going as far to say iCCup TV needs better casters" - iCCup.Diamond
are u serious? relax....
Because this time it was NOT in a joking manner. I know how HuK is and that was not joking, not in the least. I really don't care anymore and will move on, can't ruin my whole night over one person !
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I don't know HuK, so I can't judge if it was really offensive or just a joke. What can I say is that I have an imagine of HuK being manner and just doing jokes all the time. Just like those.
Looking from Diamond side, believing it was offensive:
It's the first time HuK does something like that for you, right? And by his words I can believe it was the last one.
I think you should 'forgive' him Diamond. Mistakes are human. It happens, we all have some bad days. If it happens again then I will agree if you decision, but being so radical just because of the first and one day?
Can't agree if that.
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On October 05 2010 11:53 Foxwolf wrote: I don't know HuK, so I can't judge if it was really offensive or just a joke. What can I say is that I have an imagine of HuK being manner and just doing jokes all the time. Just like those.
Looking from Diamond side, believing it was offensive:
It's the first time HuK does something like that for you, right? And by his words I can believe it was the last one.
I think you should 'forgive' him Diamond. Mistakes are human. It happens, we all have some bad days. If it happens again then I will agree if you decision, but being so radical just because of the first and one day?
Can't agree if that.
O I forgive him 200%, I know how he is, I was giving him chances when no one else would, I have worked with him for a long time now. I'm cool with it, it was wrong but I cannot let the actions of one player effect me. All we did was disqualify him from his match with Drewbie, that's it. I made sure and wished him all the luck in the future, and told him I would be rooting for him in GSL, which I will be.
I am fine with HuK.
Edit: That game 2 between Drewbie and Fenix was INSANE!
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Oh, ok then it's fine :D
EDIT: And nice KOTH.
Bo3 > Bo1 :3
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On October 05 2010 12:05 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 11:53 Foxwolf wrote: I don't know HuK, so I can't judge if it was really offensive or just a joke. What can I say is that I have an imagine of HuK being manner and just doing jokes all the time. Just like those.
Looking from Diamond side, believing it was offensive:
It's the first time HuK does something like that for you, right? And by his words I can believe it was the last one.
I think you should 'forgive' him Diamond. Mistakes are human. It happens, we all have some bad days. If it happens again then I will agree if you decision, but being so radical just because of the first and one day?
Can't agree if that. O I forgive him 200%, I know how he is, I was giving him chances when no one else would, I have worked with him for a long time now. I'm cool with it, it was wrong but I cannot let the actions of one player effect me. All we did was disqualify him from his match with Drewbie, that's it. I made sure and wished him all the luck in the future, and told him I would be rooting for him in GSL, which I will be. I am fine with HuK. Edit: That game 2 between Drewbie and Fenix was INSANE! If you are "fine" with Huk then why are you trying to make him look bad? look at all the hate he's getting in this thread because you took screenshots of him joking around ingame with chat. Don't do something to hurt his reputation and then say you are "fine" with Huk. Right now by doing that you're making yourself look bad by trying to look... i don't know... "good". Lets stop all the drama  being BM with most highend players is a common joke that gets thrown around daily. Nobody is really serious about it, and nobody has a real reason to be serious. ie: "why so BM Huk??" (insert loud irrational response here) hahahaha......
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He wasn't trying to "make him look bad". He was defending his actions. Huk stated that he asked for Metalopolis and that iCCup staff ignored him. This was not the case, so Diamond defended himself. Really, this all ended a page back, then you guys decide that Diamond is wrong? He has acted admirably and I don't think there will be hard feelings. You're a page late guys.
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On October 05 2010 12:05 KiWiKaKi wrote: huk bm ur gay. Edit: If he's allowed to do it, then so am I.
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On October 05 2010 12:52 Clonze wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 12:05 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On October 05 2010 11:53 Foxwolf wrote: I don't know HuK, so I can't judge if it was really offensive or just a joke. What can I say is that I have an imagine of HuK being manner and just doing jokes all the time. Just like those.
Looking from Diamond side, believing it was offensive:
It's the first time HuK does something like that for you, right? And by his words I can believe it was the last one.
I think you should 'forgive' him Diamond. Mistakes are human. It happens, we all have some bad days. If it happens again then I will agree if you decision, but being so radical just because of the first and one day?
Can't agree if that. O I forgive him 200%, I know how he is, I was giving him chances when no one else would, I have worked with him for a long time now. I'm cool with it, it was wrong but I cannot let the actions of one player effect me. All we did was disqualify him from his match with Drewbie, that's it. I made sure and wished him all the luck in the future, and told him I would be rooting for him in GSL, which I will be. I am fine with HuK. Edit: That game 2 between Drewbie and Fenix was INSANE! If you are "fine" with Huk then why are you trying to make him look bad? look at all the hate he's getting in this thread because you took screenshots of him joking around ingame with chat. Don't do something to hurt his reputation and then say you are "fine" with Huk. Right now by doing that you're making yourself look bad by trying to look... i don't know... "good". Lets stop all the drama  being BM with most highend players is a common joke that gets thrown around daily. Nobody is really serious about it, and nobody has a real reason to be serious. ie: "why so BM Huk??" (insert loud irrational response here) hahahaha......
Listen it happened in front of over 1800 people. Which means one of two things because chat was FREAKING out at that point and the messages were already rolling in here on TL (over 20 at that time).
1: People called us assholes and thought Raelcun was just ignoring HuK's request for Metalopolis (which at that point he thought he had typed). We catch shit for something out of our control.
2: People got pissed at HuK.
It was A or B. However all i showed is exactly what happened. I didn't edit the photos, I didn't do anything other than showed what happened. HuK did what he did to himself here. If I didn't do it, the VOD is out there. people would so it anyways. I did nothing expose anything that was not publicly broadcasted in front of 1800+ people.
I don't want to set HuK's career back in anyways. If it was 100% joking this would not be an issue. However anyone that knows HuK knows that was not him joking. I am not the one continuing the drama here, I have repeatedly tried to switch the subject to the amazing games at hand!
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Or, option 3) you dont post these logs, you simply mkae a post sayign that it was mis-communication between raelcun and huk. Problem is solved without tarnishing the reputation of a player that you are supposedly a "fanboi" of.
Now was that so hard?
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On October 05 2010 13:08 GenocideRun wrote: Or, option 3) you dont post these logs, you simply mkae a post sayign that it was mis-communication between raelcun and huk. Problem is solved without tarnishing the reputation of a player that you are supposedly a "fanboi" of.
Now was that so hard?
The logs were very public. Again 1800+ people saw it. 1800+ people very clearly are very aware there was a bigger problem than a "mis-communication" here.
I don't know what else to say.
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The logs are very public? Are you talking about the pictures that you, of your own free accord posted here? Cuz those were not "very public" until they were screenshotted, cropped, uploaded, and then posted. Tell me, how is that not entirely your fault?
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On October 05 2010 13:15 GenocideRun wrote: The logs are very public? Are you talking about the pictures that you, of your own free accord posted here? Cuz those were not "very public" until they were screenshotted, cropped, uploaded, and then posted. Tell me, how is that not entirely your fault?
Look back a few pages. Everyone was jumping in saying that Huk never said what he claimed to say. Also the whole incident is part of a VOD. It's not like this can or should be buried. You really think it's possible or even wise to bury such a public happening? Not possible, Diamond is being very open. If Huk thought he did no wrong, he wouldn't have an apology one page back. What are you trying to prove here?
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On October 05 2010 13:15 GenocideRun wrote: The logs are very public? Are you talking about the pictures that you, of your own free accord posted here? Cuz those were not "very public" until they were screenshotted, cropped, uploaded, and then posted. Tell me, how is that not entirely your fault?
they were very public already, 2k ppl read it on the stream the log pics were useful to see if huk asked him to host on metalopolis or not
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On October 05 2010 13:24 TheGrimace wrote: What are you trying to prove here?
All I'm saying is that Diamond trying to back out of this by saying he didn't do anything wrong here via posting the screen caps is bullshit and he knows it. Huk acted poorly, given the circumstances he is claiming I wouldn't say justifiably, but I would say understandably. Diamond, on the other hand, has no excuse for his poor handling of the situation. Anyone with a reasonable amount PR knowledge(Something an admin of a well respected tournament/casting crew should have) would have not posted the pictures, rather said it was a miscommunication between the two and left it at that. there is absolutely no need for the screen caps, or the quote at the bottom.
That is what I am trying to prove.
On October 05 2010 13:28 88)Minion wrote:
they were very public already, 2k ppl read it on the stream the log pics were useful to see if huk asked him to host on metalopolis or not
Refer to the above paragraph.
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Does anyone have any complaints or suggestions about Python, Grand Line or Starlight Breaker? (Other than "moar sharks") I'm not sure why the loading screen pics don't work but I'll try to fix any problems or bugs you find in game.
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On October 05 2010 13:54 GenocideRun wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 05 2010 13:24 TheGrimace wrote: What are you trying to prove here? All I'm saying is that Diamond trying to back out of this by saying he didn't do anything wrong here via posting the screen caps is bullshit and he knows it. Huk acted poorly, given the circumstances he is claiming I wouldn't say justifiably, but I would say understandably. Diamond, on the other hand, has no excuse for his poor handling of the situation. Anyone with a reasonable amount PR knowledge(Something an admin of a well respected tournament/casting crew should have) would have not posted the pictures, rather said it was a miscommunication between the two and left it at that. there is absolutely no need for the screen caps, or the quote at the bottom. That is what I am trying to prove. On October 05 2010 13:28 88)Minion wrote:
they were very public already, 2k ppl read it on the stream the log pics were useful to see if huk asked him to host on metalopolis or not
Refer to the above paragraph.
On October 05 2010 09:41 Liquid`HuK wrote: and then he says that metal and xel naga are in the map pool, and i said go make metal and he acts like i never said it just makes random custom maps again
I'm done with this pointless argument.
So Fenix looking SOOOO IMBA again! . I'm interested to see how he will do at IEM !
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On October 05 2010 13:58 iCCup.Diamond wrote:I'm done with this pointless argument. So Fenix looking SOOOO IMBA again!  . I'm interested to see how he will do at IEM  !
We will just have to agree to disagree, sir.
Fenix is looking pretty strong. Gunna be down in NYC for the finals of IEM, might get to see him if he keeps this up.
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Sounds like from HuK's apology he was having a bad day, it happens, thats a very quick and professional apology - it must be hard having the lens on you like that all the time.
Fenix playing great, so imba ^^
Thanks for the games and cast guys, much appreciated from procrastination central down in Melbourne.
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Fenix is looking quite strong ^^ Never really watched him before so this is nice
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On October 05 2010 13:55 neobowman wrote: Does anyone have any complaints or suggestions about Python, Grand Line or Starlight Breaker? (Other than "moar sharks") I'm not sure why the loading screen pics don't work but I'll try to fix any problems or bugs you find in game.
A single watch tower in the middle of starlight breaker could be cool. Other than that maps looking great.
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On October 05 2010 14:06 Piski wrote:Fenix is looking quite strong ^^ Never really watched him before so this is nice 
Same here, he looks good to me at least.
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I think this is just ICCup.tv staff overreacting again, this is like the 5th time HuK has been in drama over his strange mannerisms and humor+ Show Spoiler + (I am the same way as HuK and I get in just as much drama over what I said or how I said it, to who, when, what words I used etc etc) , and like the 5th time ICCup.tv have had some drama over slightly odd mannerisms.
Maybe the casters shouldn't be chatting with the players on the stream, as it seems to be the cause of this problem all the time.
It would be cool if maybe ICCup.tv took the initiative to work on a way for their casters to throw up a 1-way overlay (only overlay on the broadcasted material, not what the caster has on his own screen) that would provide some form of entertaining images/content while the caster could chat and organize things "behind the scenes". If they can come up with a simple way to let all streamers do this I think it would catch on.
I think its possible by just getting a 2nd monitor, very justified investment for someone who wants to provide quality content to thousands of viewers many times a week.
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On October 05 2010 14:06 Piski wrote:Fenix is looking quite strong ^^ Never really watched him before so this is nice 
The guy is really amazing and underrated. His mechanics are insane, he has an average apm near 400. IEM could be a big chance for him.
On October 05 2010 14:10 Chewey wrote: Just saying if you really want to please your viewers you aren't gonna perma ban arguably the best player currently in NA that EVERYONE wants to see and EVERYONE enjoys watching because he had a bad day and then was sincerly apologetic.
The guy doesn't do it cause he needs $25 he does it cause he wants to have some fun, and the viewers enjoy listening to and watching him aswell, I understand the concern as an admin and what not, but banning a player like that is really counterproductive to what you are trying to accomplish.
He's not banned in any way shape or form. He just got dq'd from that one match.
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On October 05 2010 14:08 learning wrote:I think this is just ICCup.tv staff overreacting again, this is like the 5th time HuK has been in drama over his strange mannerisms and humor + Show Spoiler + (I am the same way as HuK and I get in just as much drama over what I said or how I said it, to who, when, what words I used etc etc) , and like the 5th time ICCup.tv have had some drama over slightly odd mannerisms. Maybe the casters shouldn't be chatting with the players on the stream, as it seems to be the cause of this problem all the time. It would be cool if maybe ICCup.tv took the initiative to work on a way for their casters to throw up a 1-way overlay (only overlay on the broadcasted material, not what the caster has on his own screen) that would provide some form of entertaining images/content while the caster could chat and organize things "behind the scenes". If they can come up with a simple way to let all streamers do this I think it would catch on. I think its possible by just getting a 2nd monitor, very justified investment for someone who wants to provide quality content to thousands of viewers many times a week.
I think this is more of a product of the sheer amount of casts ICCUP does. Half of the time I log on TL, ICCUP is casting something. They are bound to run into some difficulties.
Edit: Chewey, read the whole thread from about page 8.
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This might seem a bit arbitrary, but consider other popular pro-gamers in a similar situation having a shitty day. Could any of you imagine, for example, TLO or Dimaga saying anything like that? Probably not.
Does that make Huk a terrible person? No. Does it make him immature? Yes. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? No.
It's unfortunate that someone like Raelcun who spends literally all day every day providing this community with content has to put up with being talked to like a piece of poop if he wants certain popular players in iccup events.
If I were in Raelcun's position I would've told someone mouthing off to me like that to go fuck themselves. I'd say that the iccup staff handled themselves pretty damn professionally when compared to a lot of other tournament admins in the starcraft 2 scene right now. They were arguing over what was said. Posting proof of what was said seems fine to me when it's being disputed by the very people involved.
Edit: Listening to the stream, I don't think Raelcun doesn't seem too concerned about it and he was the one on the shitty end of the stick, so it's probably not worth any of us even discussing.
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On October 05 2010 14:10 Chewey wrote: Just saying if you really want to please your viewers you aren't gonna perma ban arguably the best player currently in NA that EVERYONE wants to see and EVERYONE enjoys watching because he had a bad day and then was sincerly apologetic.
The guy doesn't do it cause he needs $25 he does it cause he wants to have some fun, and the viewers enjoy listening to and watching him aswell, I understand the concern as an admin and what not, but banning a player like that is really counterproductive to what you are trying to accomplish.
I Dunno man, ive been following the BW and SC2 scene for a good 2 years, and this kind of BM just makes him looks like a 10 years old kid who doesnt want to cooperate with his mother, very childish.
I have absolutly no problem with some BM from time to time between PLAYERS. That creates some kind of rivalry that is fun for viewers to follow.. this was BM to a caster in a live event and actualy ruined it for him and some viewers.
If HuK wants people to lose interest in the SC2 foreign scene at a faster pace, this is the kind of shit that gets you there, imagine all the kids acting like that in a tourney? that would be total chaos. Set an Example, ban the guy, SC2 is still very new, many pro players are on the road ahead.
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On October 05 2010 14:26 Drayne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 14:10 Chewey wrote: Just saying if you really want to please your viewers you aren't gonna perma ban arguably the best player currently in NA that EVERYONE wants to see and EVERYONE enjoys watching because he had a bad day and then was sincerly apologetic.
The guy doesn't do it cause he needs $25 he does it cause he wants to have some fun, and the viewers enjoy listening to and watching him aswell, I understand the concern as an admin and what not, but banning a player like that is really counterproductive to what you are trying to accomplish. I Dunno man, ive been following the BW and SC2 scene for a good 2 years, and this kind of BM just makes him looks like a 10 years old kid who doesnt want to cooperate with his mother, very childish. I have absolutly no problem with some BM from time to time between PLAYERS. That creates some kind of rivalry that is fun for viewers to follow.. this was BM to a caster in a live event and actualy ruined it for him and some viewers. If HuK wants people to lose interest in the SC2 foreign scene at a faster pace, this is the kind of shit that gets you there, imagine all the kids acting like that in a tourney? that would be total chaos. Set an Example, ban the guy, SC2 is still very new, many pro players are on the road ahead.
Just to re clarify. HuK is not banned, suspended or anything. He is always welcome back on iCCup TV.
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Was it immature and stupid? yes Did it hurt his reputation? yes Does his apologize make it right? Well no, but everyone has their bad days so it's just stupid to let this thing ruin his reputation completely. It's not like you or me are perfect.
On internet you can always take apologizes with a little grain of salt but HuK seems good enough guy so I don't really have a reason to start hating him now.
Lets just forget this thing and move on. There are good games going ^^
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On October 05 2010 14:10 iCCup.Diamond wrote: The guy is really amazing and underrated. His mechanics are insane, he has an average apm near 400. IEM could be a big chance for him.
not to mention his micro is absoutely insane, i cant storm anything lolllll fenix was like my sc1 hero, loved his pvt. tho he was super underrated coz hes from peru i guess?
glad hes making big waves in sc2 already.
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Yet another reason to dislike HuK. If you've had a bad day and you won't be able to handle a simple Starcraft 2 tournament, don't fucking play. There's no need to act like a complete and utter asshole. What a prick.
And iCCup is trying to do everyone a favor and get better, more competitive maps in the spotlight. It really disgusts me that he called the maps shitty. Ugh.
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On October 05 2010 14:37 aLt)nirvana wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 14:10 iCCup.Diamond wrote: The guy is really amazing and underrated. His mechanics are insane, he has an average apm near 400. IEM could be a big chance for him.
not to mention his micro is absoutely insane, i cant storm anything lolllll fenix was like my sc1 hero, loved his pvt. tho he was super underrated coz hes from peru i guess? glad hes making big waves in sc2 already. Yeah, Fenix is from Peru. He's really good, and we've had him in a few iCCup event's lately and he always does pretty well.
His match vs select is probably one of my favorite TvTs:
http://www.fileplay.net/channels/iccuptv/10312/itl-16-fenix-vs-select?page=6
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great event guys. lots of free entertainment. thank you to all the players and casters! (and mappers!)
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great matches, LZ fails and costs me $25, and to think I was going to buy him a drink in DC, that's obviously out the window now.
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any chance of something similar happening on EU server as well?
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Going to respond here a little bit late to the whole general thing, do I understand yes people have bad days and I fully understand it just frankly it was too much for me to deal with at the time hence why when told after the fact that he wanted Metal by other people and not by Huk I just said no and moved on.
I mean I know Huk jokes around a lot and he does make fun of me a lot but I realize most of the time he's kidding around I have thick skin I can deal with it. But when I'm trying to figure out a map to host for a showmatch and he won't straight up tell me a map then swears at me every time I guess and host one... Well it gets a little tough to deal with, host 3 different maps have him decline the invites 3 different times and then ask him straight up to tell me a map and his response is that we need new casters?
That's too much for anyone, so yes Huk jokes around in this instance it was too much and I stand by my actions 100% and at the same time fully understand that people get stressed out just don't want to have to deal with it again.
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Osaka27139 Posts
Glad the issue is resolved. I sympathize with you as I know how stressful running a live show can be. From now, I would prefer this thread to remain about the actual games rather than a superfluous moment between a player and caster. Thanks a lot.
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I have to ask. So in the 2nd game lz played zerg? Assuming thats not a mistake how did he beat fenix in game 2?
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Lots of mutas. Fenix was offracing as Protoss as well.
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How do I enter this tournament?
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Hyrule19026 Posts
You don't! It's invite only.
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On October 05 2010 15:44 PredY wrote: any chance of something similar happening on EU server as well? as i think it'd be awesome to have a reason to actually play "good" maps for once
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On October 05 2010 23:47 tofucake wrote: You don't! It's invite only. Oh alright.. How would I go about getting an invite? I mean I can't just randomly whisper someone and ask..
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Your first step would be to consult an online dictionary for the definition of 'invite' and 'only'
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On October 06 2010 05:45 Keki wrote:Oh alright.. How would I go about getting an invite? I mean I can't just randomly whisper someone and ask..
Enter events like the iCCup ITC and the like, a ot of the players we invite are previous winners or players who did really well in those events. For the most part we invite a lot of the players that we know so in order to get known, you need to do well in some tournaments and the like.
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On October 06 2010 05:53 FuriousJodo wrote:
Enter events like the iCCup ITC and the like, a ot of the players we invite are previous winners or players who did really well in those events. For the most part we invite a lot of the players that we know so in order to get known, you need to do well in some tournaments and the like.
Thanks a lot! I guess I'll enter more tournaments when holidays come around
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WE WILL BE HAVING A PRO KOTH TONIGHT Sunday, Oct 24 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Make sure and show up, we always end up having some wild games each time !
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Gathering players now, Diamond is going to be out tonight so if you want in message me or post on the thread plz kk ty don't message Diamond.
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Actually message me on this account if you're gonna PM on TL cuz I'll be online for udating the thread and such.
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Those 3 guys fighting qxc, are they in any where of Gold/Plat?
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nice job CatZ!
thanks dood.
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Catz fucking scraped tonight
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