EPTOn October 05 2010 14:06 Piski wrote:
Fenix is looking quite strong ^^
Never really watched him before so this is nice
Fenix is looking quite strong ^^
Never really watched him before so this is nice
Same here, he looks good to me at least.
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Ect
Norway3 Posts
Same here, he looks good to me at least. | ||
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learning
United States104 Posts
(I am the same way as HuK and I get in just as much drama over what I said or how I said it, to who, when, what words I used etc etc) Maybe the casters shouldn't be chatting with the players on the stream, as it seems to be the cause of this problem all the time. It would be cool if maybe ICCup.tv took the initiative to work on a way for their casters to throw up a 1-way overlay (only overlay on the broadcasted material, not what the caster has on his own screen) that would provide some form of entertaining images/content while the caster could chat and organize things "behind the scenes". If they can come up with a simple way to let all streamers do this I think it would catch on. I think its possible by just getting a 2nd monitor, very justified investment for someone who wants to provide quality content to thousands of viewers many times a week. | ||
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Chewey
United States32 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On October 05 2010 14:06 Piski wrote: Fenix is looking quite strong ^^ Never really watched him before so this is nice The guy is really amazing and underrated. His mechanics are insane, he has an average apm near 400. IEM could be a big chance for him. On October 05 2010 14:10 Chewey wrote: Just saying if you really want to please your viewers you aren't gonna perma ban arguably the best player currently in NA that EVERYONE wants to see and EVERYONE enjoys watching because he had a bad day and then was sincerly apologetic. The guy doesn't do it cause he needs $25 he does it cause he wants to have some fun, and the viewers enjoy listening to and watching him aswell, I understand the concern as an admin and what not, but banning a player like that is really counterproductive to what you are trying to accomplish. He's not banned in any way shape or form. He just got dq'd from that one match. | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
On October 05 2010 14:08 learning wrote: I think this is just ICCup.tv staff overreacting again, this is like the 5th time HuK has been in drama over his strange mannerisms and humor+ Show Spoiler + (I am the same way as HuK and I get in just as much drama over what I said or how I said it, to who, when, what words I used etc etc) Maybe the casters shouldn't be chatting with the players on the stream, as it seems to be the cause of this problem all the time. It would be cool if maybe ICCup.tv took the initiative to work on a way for their casters to throw up a 1-way overlay (only overlay on the broadcasted material, not what the caster has on his own screen) that would provide some form of entertaining images/content while the caster could chat and organize things "behind the scenes". If they can come up with a simple way to let all streamers do this I think it would catch on. I think its possible by just getting a 2nd monitor, very justified investment for someone who wants to provide quality content to thousands of viewers many times a week. I think this is more of a product of the sheer amount of casts ICCUP does. Half of the time I log on TL, ICCUP is casting something. They are bound to run into some difficulties. Edit: Chewey, read the whole thread from about page 8. | ||
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
Does that make Huk a terrible person? No. Does it make him immature? Yes. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? No. It's unfortunate that someone like Raelcun who spends literally all day every day providing this community with content has to put up with being talked to like a piece of poop if he wants certain popular players in iccup events. If I were in Raelcun's position I would've told someone mouthing off to me like that to go fuck themselves. I'd say that the iccup staff handled themselves pretty damn professionally when compared to a lot of other tournament admins in the starcraft 2 scene right now. They were arguing over what was said. Posting proof of what was said seems fine to me when it's being disputed by the very people involved. Edit: Listening to the stream, I don't think Raelcun doesn't seem too concerned about it and he was the one on the shitty end of the stick, so it's probably not worth any of us even discussing. | ||
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Drayne
Canada239 Posts
On October 05 2010 14:10 Chewey wrote: Just saying if you really want to please your viewers you aren't gonna perma ban arguably the best player currently in NA that EVERYONE wants to see and EVERYONE enjoys watching because he had a bad day and then was sincerly apologetic. The guy doesn't do it cause he needs $25 he does it cause he wants to have some fun, and the viewers enjoy listening to and watching him aswell, I understand the concern as an admin and what not, but banning a player like that is really counterproductive to what you are trying to accomplish. I Dunno man, ive been following the BW and SC2 scene for a good 2 years, and this kind of BM just makes him looks like a 10 years old kid who doesnt want to cooperate with his mother, very childish. I have absolutly no problem with some BM from time to time between PLAYERS. That creates some kind of rivalry that is fun for viewers to follow.. this was BM to a caster in a live event and actualy ruined it for him and some viewers. If HuK wants people to lose interest in the SC2 foreign scene at a faster pace, this is the kind of shit that gets you there, imagine all the kids acting like that in a tourney? that would be total chaos. Set an Example, ban the guy, SC2 is still very new, many pro players are on the road ahead. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On October 05 2010 14:26 Drayne wrote: I Dunno man, ive been following the BW and SC2 scene for a good 2 years, and this kind of BM just makes him looks like a 10 years old kid who doesnt want to cooperate with his mother, very childish. I have absolutly no problem with some BM from time to time between PLAYERS. That creates some kind of rivalry that is fun for viewers to follow.. this was BM to a caster in a live event and actualy ruined it for him and some viewers. If HuK wants people to lose interest in the SC2 foreign scene at a faster pace, this is the kind of shit that gets you there, imagine all the kids acting like that in a tourney? that would be total chaos. Set an Example, ban the guy, SC2 is still very new, many pro players are on the road ahead. Just to re clarify. HuK is not banned, suspended or anything. He is always welcome back on iCCup TV. | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
Did it hurt his reputation? yes Does his apologize make it right? Well no, but everyone has their bad days so it's just stupid to let this thing ruin his reputation completely. It's not like you or me are perfect. On internet you can always take apologizes with a little grain of salt but HuK seems good enough guy so I don't really have a reason to start hating him now. Lets just forget this thing and move on. There are good games going ^^ | ||
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aLt)nirvana
Singapore846 Posts
On October 05 2010 14:10 iCCup.Diamond wrote: The guy is really amazing and underrated. His mechanics are insane, he has an average apm near 400. IEM could be a big chance for him. not to mention his micro is absoutely insane, i cant storm anything lolllll fenix was like my sc1 hero, loved his pvt. tho he was super underrated coz hes from peru i guess? glad hes making big waves in sc2 already. | ||
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Headshot
United States1656 Posts
And iCCup is trying to do everyone a favor and get better, more competitive maps in the spotlight. It really disgusts me that he called the maps shitty. Ugh. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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FuriousJodo
United States212 Posts
On October 05 2010 14:37 aLt)nirvana wrote: not to mention his micro is absoutely insane, i cant storm anything lolllll fenix was like my sc1 hero, loved his pvt. tho he was super underrated coz hes from peru i guess? glad hes making big waves in sc2 already. Yeah, Fenix is from Peru. He's really good, and we've had him in a few iCCup event's lately and he always does pretty well. His match vs select is probably one of my favorite TvTs: http://www.fileplay.net/channels/iccuptv/10312/itl-16-fenix-vs-select?page=6 | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
I mean I know Huk jokes around a lot and he does make fun of me a lot but I realize most of the time he's kidding around I have thick skin I can deal with it. But when I'm trying to figure out a map to host for a showmatch and he won't straight up tell me a map then swears at me every time I guess and host one... Well it gets a little tough to deal with, host 3 different maps have him decline the invites 3 different times and then ask him straight up to tell me a map and his response is that we need new casters? That's too much for anyone, so yes Huk jokes around in this instance it was too much and I stand by my actions 100% and at the same time fully understand that people get stressed out just don't want to have to deal with it again. | ||
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