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I don't know HuK, so I can't judge if it was really offensive or just a joke. What can I say is that I have an imagine of HuK being manner and just doing jokes all the time. Just like those.
Looking from Diamond side, believing it was offensive:
It's the first time HuK does something like that for you, right? And by his words I can believe it was the last one.
I think you should 'forgive' him Diamond. Mistakes are human. It happens, we all have some bad days. If it happens again then I will agree if you decision, but being so radical just because of the first and one day?
Can't agree if that.
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On October 05 2010 11:53 Foxwolf wrote: I don't know HuK, so I can't judge if it was really offensive or just a joke. What can I say is that I have an imagine of HuK being manner and just doing jokes all the time. Just like those.
Looking from Diamond side, believing it was offensive:
It's the first time HuK does something like that for you, right? And by his words I can believe it was the last one.
I think you should 'forgive' him Diamond. Mistakes are human. It happens, we all have some bad days. If it happens again then I will agree if you decision, but being so radical just because of the first and one day?
Can't agree if that.
O I forgive him 200%, I know how he is, I was giving him chances when no one else would, I have worked with him for a long time now. I'm cool with it, it was wrong but I cannot let the actions of one player effect me. All we did was disqualify him from his match with Drewbie, that's it. I made sure and wished him all the luck in the future, and told him I would be rooting for him in GSL, which I will be.
I am fine with HuK.
Edit: That game 2 between Drewbie and Fenix was INSANE!
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Oh, ok then it's fine :D
EDIT: And nice KOTH.
Bo3 > Bo1 :3
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On October 05 2010 12:05 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 11:53 Foxwolf wrote: I don't know HuK, so I can't judge if it was really offensive or just a joke. What can I say is that I have an imagine of HuK being manner and just doing jokes all the time. Just like those.
Looking from Diamond side, believing it was offensive:
It's the first time HuK does something like that for you, right? And by his words I can believe it was the last one.
I think you should 'forgive' him Diamond. Mistakes are human. It happens, we all have some bad days. If it happens again then I will agree if you decision, but being so radical just because of the first and one day?
Can't agree if that. O I forgive him 200%, I know how he is, I was giving him chances when no one else would, I have worked with him for a long time now. I'm cool with it, it was wrong but I cannot let the actions of one player effect me. All we did was disqualify him from his match with Drewbie, that's it. I made sure and wished him all the luck in the future, and told him I would be rooting for him in GSL, which I will be. I am fine with HuK. Edit: That game 2 between Drewbie and Fenix was INSANE! If you are "fine" with Huk then why are you trying to make him look bad? look at all the hate he's getting in this thread because you took screenshots of him joking around ingame with chat. Don't do something to hurt his reputation and then say you are "fine" with Huk. Right now by doing that you're making yourself look bad by trying to look... i don't know... "good". Lets stop all the drama  being BM with most highend players is a common joke that gets thrown around daily. Nobody is really serious about it, and nobody has a real reason to be serious. ie: "why so BM Huk??" (insert loud irrational response here) hahahaha......
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He wasn't trying to "make him look bad". He was defending his actions. Huk stated that he asked for Metalopolis and that iCCup staff ignored him. This was not the case, so Diamond defended himself. Really, this all ended a page back, then you guys decide that Diamond is wrong? He has acted admirably and I don't think there will be hard feelings. You're a page late guys.
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On October 05 2010 12:05 KiWiKaKi wrote: huk bm ur gay. Edit: If he's allowed to do it, then so am I.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On October 05 2010 12:52 Clonze wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 12:05 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On October 05 2010 11:53 Foxwolf wrote: I don't know HuK, so I can't judge if it was really offensive or just a joke. What can I say is that I have an imagine of HuK being manner and just doing jokes all the time. Just like those.
Looking from Diamond side, believing it was offensive:
It's the first time HuK does something like that for you, right? And by his words I can believe it was the last one.
I think you should 'forgive' him Diamond. Mistakes are human. It happens, we all have some bad days. If it happens again then I will agree if you decision, but being so radical just because of the first and one day?
Can't agree if that. O I forgive him 200%, I know how he is, I was giving him chances when no one else would, I have worked with him for a long time now. I'm cool with it, it was wrong but I cannot let the actions of one player effect me. All we did was disqualify him from his match with Drewbie, that's it. I made sure and wished him all the luck in the future, and told him I would be rooting for him in GSL, which I will be. I am fine with HuK. Edit: That game 2 between Drewbie and Fenix was INSANE! If you are "fine" with Huk then why are you trying to make him look bad? look at all the hate he's getting in this thread because you took screenshots of him joking around ingame with chat. Don't do something to hurt his reputation and then say you are "fine" with Huk. Right now by doing that you're making yourself look bad by trying to look... i don't know... "good". Lets stop all the drama  being BM with most highend players is a common joke that gets thrown around daily. Nobody is really serious about it, and nobody has a real reason to be serious. ie: "why so BM Huk??" (insert loud irrational response here) hahahaha......
Listen it happened in front of over 1800 people. Which means one of two things because chat was FREAKING out at that point and the messages were already rolling in here on TL (over 20 at that time).
1: People called us assholes and thought Raelcun was just ignoring HuK's request for Metalopolis (which at that point he thought he had typed). We catch shit for something out of our control.
2: People got pissed at HuK.
It was A or B. However all i showed is exactly what happened. I didn't edit the photos, I didn't do anything other than showed what happened. HuK did what he did to himself here. If I didn't do it, the VOD is out there. people would so it anyways. I did nothing expose anything that was not publicly broadcasted in front of 1800+ people.
I don't want to set HuK's career back in anyways. If it was 100% joking this would not be an issue. However anyone that knows HuK knows that was not him joking. I am not the one continuing the drama here, I have repeatedly tried to switch the subject to the amazing games at hand!
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Or, option 3) you dont post these logs, you simply mkae a post sayign that it was mis-communication between raelcun and huk. Problem is solved without tarnishing the reputation of a player that you are supposedly a "fanboi" of.
Now was that so hard?
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On October 05 2010 13:08 GenocideRun wrote: Or, option 3) you dont post these logs, you simply mkae a post sayign that it was mis-communication between raelcun and huk. Problem is solved without tarnishing the reputation of a player that you are supposedly a "fanboi" of.
Now was that so hard?
The logs were very public. Again 1800+ people saw it. 1800+ people very clearly are very aware there was a bigger problem than a "mis-communication" here.
I don't know what else to say.
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The logs are very public? Are you talking about the pictures that you, of your own free accord posted here? Cuz those were not "very public" until they were screenshotted, cropped, uploaded, and then posted. Tell me, how is that not entirely your fault?
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On October 05 2010 13:15 GenocideRun wrote: The logs are very public? Are you talking about the pictures that you, of your own free accord posted here? Cuz those were not "very public" until they were screenshotted, cropped, uploaded, and then posted. Tell me, how is that not entirely your fault?
Look back a few pages. Everyone was jumping in saying that Huk never said what he claimed to say. Also the whole incident is part of a VOD. It's not like this can or should be buried. You really think it's possible or even wise to bury such a public happening? Not possible, Diamond is being very open. If Huk thought he did no wrong, he wouldn't have an apology one page back. What are you trying to prove here?
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On October 05 2010 13:15 GenocideRun wrote: The logs are very public? Are you talking about the pictures that you, of your own free accord posted here? Cuz those were not "very public" until they were screenshotted, cropped, uploaded, and then posted. Tell me, how is that not entirely your fault?
they were very public already, 2k ppl read it on the stream the log pics were useful to see if huk asked him to host on metalopolis or not
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On October 05 2010 13:24 TheGrimace wrote: What are you trying to prove here?
All I'm saying is that Diamond trying to back out of this by saying he didn't do anything wrong here via posting the screen caps is bullshit and he knows it. Huk acted poorly, given the circumstances he is claiming I wouldn't say justifiably, but I would say understandably. Diamond, on the other hand, has no excuse for his poor handling of the situation. Anyone with a reasonable amount PR knowledge(Something an admin of a well respected tournament/casting crew should have) would have not posted the pictures, rather said it was a miscommunication between the two and left it at that. there is absolutely no need for the screen caps, or the quote at the bottom.
That is what I am trying to prove.
On October 05 2010 13:28 88)Minion wrote:
they were very public already, 2k ppl read it on the stream the log pics were useful to see if huk asked him to host on metalopolis or not
Refer to the above paragraph.
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Does anyone have any complaints or suggestions about Python, Grand Line or Starlight Breaker? (Other than "moar sharks") I'm not sure why the loading screen pics don't work but I'll try to fix any problems or bugs you find in game.
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On October 05 2010 13:54 GenocideRun wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 05 2010 13:24 TheGrimace wrote: What are you trying to prove here? All I'm saying is that Diamond trying to back out of this by saying he didn't do anything wrong here via posting the screen caps is bullshit and he knows it. Huk acted poorly, given the circumstances he is claiming I wouldn't say justifiably, but I would say understandably. Diamond, on the other hand, has no excuse for his poor handling of the situation. Anyone with a reasonable amount PR knowledge(Something an admin of a well respected tournament/casting crew should have) would have not posted the pictures, rather said it was a miscommunication between the two and left it at that. there is absolutely no need for the screen caps, or the quote at the bottom. That is what I am trying to prove. On October 05 2010 13:28 88)Minion wrote:
they were very public already, 2k ppl read it on the stream the log pics were useful to see if huk asked him to host on metalopolis or not
Refer to the above paragraph.
On October 05 2010 09:41 Liquid`HuK wrote: and then he says that metal and xel naga are in the map pool, and i said go make metal and he acts like i never said it just makes random custom maps again
I'm done with this pointless argument.
So Fenix looking SOOOO IMBA again! . I'm interested to see how he will do at IEM !
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On October 05 2010 13:58 iCCup.Diamond wrote:I'm done with this pointless argument. So Fenix looking SOOOO IMBA again!  . I'm interested to see how he will do at IEM  !
We will just have to agree to disagree, sir.
Fenix is looking pretty strong. Gunna be down in NYC for the finals of IEM, might get to see him if he keeps this up.
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Sounds like from HuK's apology he was having a bad day, it happens, thats a very quick and professional apology - it must be hard having the lens on you like that all the time.
Fenix playing great, so imba ^^
Thanks for the games and cast guys, much appreciated from procrastination central down in Melbourne.
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Fenix is looking quite strong ^^ Never really watched him before so this is nice
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On October 05 2010 13:55 neobowman wrote: Does anyone have any complaints or suggestions about Python, Grand Line or Starlight Breaker? (Other than "moar sharks") I'm not sure why the loading screen pics don't work but I'll try to fix any problems or bugs you find in game.
A single watch tower in the middle of starlight breaker could be cool. Other than that maps looking great.
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