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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 28 2010 18:13 GMT
#1181
Apparently Day[9] can cast with cadavers as well.
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Fodder03
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada142 Posts
August 28 2010 18:13 GMT
#1182
day9 is having alot of fun which makes this even more entertaining for me
drans
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada33 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 18:13:39
August 28 2010 18:13 GMT
#1183
On August 29 2010 03:12 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 03:10 drans wrote:
Again,


HuK vs KiwiKaki in Upper Bracket finals. Winner moves to grand finals, loser goes to Lower Bracket finals against winner of Socke and Sjow. Grand finals is Upper winner vs Lower winner.


lol wrong: socke plays vs cauthonluck and sjow vs lastshadow


Guess gotfrag brackets were wrong and just got updated, my bad.
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
August 28 2010 18:14 GMT
#1184
On August 29 2010 03:08 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 03:00 Kishkumen wrote:
Terran wins: OP!!! IMBA!!!
Protoss wins: Excellent play!


no, it's terran plays kinda bad and wins: OP!!! IMBA!!!

I would never, EVER shout imba at one of the countless games where thestc obliterates his opponents; but CLuck shouldn't have won the 2nd game; huk hat total mapcontrol; then:
a) colossi get negated by vikings
b) high templar get negated by EMP
and then marauders just killed the gateway army, after kinda insta-killing the nexus


I don't see what's imbalanced about getting units that do well against your opponent's composition. CLuck definitely didn't play perfectly that game, but neither did HuK. HuK saw a large marauder army and didn't make immortals, which I'm pretty sure Blizzard intended as a counter to marauders. He also burned a lot of storms on small groups of units. I agree CLuck didn't play well, but I wasn't amazed by HuK's play either.
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AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
August 28 2010 18:14 GMT
#1185
Really glad we get to see another Socke game. DEUTSCHLAND REPRESENT!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2010 18:14 GMT
#1186
On August 29 2010 03:13 Andr3 wrote:
Why is everyone making macro mistakes examples of bad play(queing lots of units, going over 1k with mienrals etc.) I mean why is macro always so important come on, if you watch theSTC his minerals get really high sometimes but he wins games with microing.

Cluck didn't do any flashy micro moves but still, when you're nervous you tend to make macro mistakes.

Also offtopic: cranberries are you the 1400 rated toss ? ;o

If you have 30 marauders vs 50, all the fancy micro doesn't help when you just get steamrolled.
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HighDistortion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States52 Posts
August 28 2010 18:14 GMT
#1187
select and ttone finish the tournament at 7th/8th place....depending on conso match between them
Jameser
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden951 Posts
August 28 2010 18:14 GMT
#1188
On August 29 2010 03:14 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
Really glad we get to see another Socke game. DEUTSCHLAND REPRESENT!

I always react when germans show national pride no offense lol

but yeah socke is an entertaining player!
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 28 2010 18:15 GMT
#1189
On August 29 2010 03:14 Kishkumen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 03:08 sleepingdog wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:00 Kishkumen wrote:
Terran wins: OP!!! IMBA!!!
Protoss wins: Excellent play!


no, it's terran plays kinda bad and wins: OP!!! IMBA!!!

I would never, EVER shout imba at one of the countless games where thestc obliterates his opponents; but CLuck shouldn't have won the 2nd game; huk hat total mapcontrol; then:
a) colossi get negated by vikings
b) high templar get negated by EMP
and then marauders just killed the gateway army, after kinda insta-killing the nexus


I don't see what's imbalanced about getting units that do well against your opponent's composition. CLuck definitely didn't play perfectly that game, but neither did HuK. HuK saw a large marauder army and didn't make immortals, which I'm pretty sure Blizzard intended as a counter to marauders. He also burned a lot of storms on small groups of units. I agree CLuck didn't play well, but I wasn't amazed by HuK's play either.


Too bad that Stimmed Marauders can plow through the amount of Immortals you'll have on 1 Robo, and that's not even taking into account the use of EMP.
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x-Catalyst
Profile Joined August 2010
United States921 Posts
August 28 2010 18:15 GMT
#1190
I hate how I leave for 5 minutes and I come back to everyone lol-ing. I always miss everything :/
stfouri
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland272 Posts
August 28 2010 18:15 GMT
#1191
This is madness. Liek reading wow forums or something-alike :D.
All the WoW adult-kids bitching about imbalances. Im allready waiting for the next season and its fotm race debate!
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
August 28 2010 18:15 GMT
#1192
It's a lot more apparent from casts when Terran has bad macro compared to Protoss, just sayin'
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
August 28 2010 18:15 GMT
#1193
On August 29 2010 03:10 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 03:09 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:04 Shikyo wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:01 Nihility wrote:
On August 29 2010 02:59 DawgEm wrote:
if protoss is played right they are unstoppable. i play protoss, but i dont see as many protoss is OP complaints as much there should be.


The thing is that even if you don't play terran right (making marauders vs colossus/storm, queuing full on all rax) you can still win. And you can't queue on warpgates


queuing isn´t good macro

That's what he said. Assuming you wanted to disagree with him.



Day9 so boss! like 5th hour in a row!!!



Yes I wanted to disagree, it means Cauthonluck was so good he actually won a game with horrible macro.

His point is that Terran is so OP that he won even by playing poorly... And I don't understand what you were trying to say with your post, because that's exactly what he was saying.


I just wanted to disagree.
Like people want to disagree with statistics on the forums all the time lately.

And because you can´t queue with warpgates that means protoss has harder time having horrible macro, therefore Protosses have to play very badly to lose to T.

It makes sense IMO.
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Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
August 28 2010 18:16 GMT
#1194
On August 29 2010 03:09 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 03:06 Sputty wrote:
lol How did Huk win when he was far behind??? Guess that goes to show it doens't matter how OP a race is TRUE SKILL and TRUE PROTOSS bretheren spirit can in fact overcome any amount of imbalance!! Glad to see PROTOSS for once!!


This isn't a serious post is it?

If it is then LOL.

Really these forums lately....Terran wins: OOOOOOPP NEERF

Protoss wins: OMG DID YOU SEE THE SKILL OF PROTOSS PLAYER?!!


The problem is that I just feel that zerg/protoss users dont win, its just the terran that loses. In other words, terrans seem to have a much larger margin of error. They can make many minor mistakes or a few major mistakes and still take the game. Show me a zerg or toss that can do that.

Then again, I guess I'm talking about an improbable situation where both players are at equal skill levels.

But admit it, it feels good to see the most nerfed race get some share of the glory. XD
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2010 18:16 GMT
#1195
On August 29 2010 03:15 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 03:10 Shikyo wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:09 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:04 Shikyo wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:01 Nihility wrote:
On August 29 2010 02:59 DawgEm wrote:
if protoss is played right they are unstoppable. i play protoss, but i dont see as many protoss is OP complaints as much there should be.


The thing is that even if you don't play terran right (making marauders vs colossus/storm, queuing full on all rax) you can still win. And you can't queue on warpgates


queuing isn´t good macro

That's what he said. Assuming you wanted to disagree with him.



Day9 so boss! like 5th hour in a row!!!



Yes I wanted to disagree, it means Cauthonluck was so good he actually won a game with horrible macro.

His point is that Terran is so OP that he won even by playing poorly... And I don't understand what you were trying to say with your post, because that's exactly what he was saying.


I just wanted to disagree.
Like people want to disagree with statistics on the forums all the time lately.

And because you can´t queue with warpgates that means protoss has harder time having horrible macro, therefore Protosses have to play very badly to lose to T.

It makes sense IMO.

What I said is "queuing isn't good macro" is what he was saying, so that's not disagreeing, that's agreeing.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 28 2010 18:17 GMT
#1196
On August 29 2010 03:15 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 03:14 Kishkumen wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:08 sleepingdog wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:00 Kishkumen wrote:
Terran wins: OP!!! IMBA!!!
Protoss wins: Excellent play!


no, it's terran plays kinda bad and wins: OP!!! IMBA!!!

I would never, EVER shout imba at one of the countless games where thestc obliterates his opponents; but CLuck shouldn't have won the 2nd game; huk hat total mapcontrol; then:
a) colossi get negated by vikings
b) high templar get negated by EMP
and then marauders just killed the gateway army, after kinda insta-killing the nexus


I don't see what's imbalanced about getting units that do well against your opponent's composition. CLuck definitely didn't play perfectly that game, but neither did HuK. HuK saw a large marauder army and didn't make immortals, which I'm pretty sure Blizzard intended as a counter to marauders. He also burned a lot of storms on small groups of units. I agree CLuck didn't play well, but I wasn't amazed by HuK's play either.


Too bad that Stimmed Marauders can plow through the amount of Immortals you'll have on 1 Robo, and that's not even taking into account the use of EMP.

Stimmed marauders plow through any unit P has. He's not suggesting that HuK have an army built out of immortals (I think), but rather that he add them for the high damage in supporting the rest of the gateway composition.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2010 18:18 GMT
#1197
Protosses might need to start going for Mothership rushes against the Marauder builds.
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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 28 2010 18:19 GMT
#1198
I don't see what's imbalanced about getting units that do well against your opponent's composition.


if your opponent has no other options, then yes - it should be even (50/50) but it's not

CLuck definitely didn't play perfectly that game, but neither did HuK. HuK saw a large marauder army and didn't make immortals, which I'm pretty sure Blizzard intended as a counter to marauders. He also burned a lot of storms on small groups of units. I agree CLuck didn't play well, but I wasn't amazed by HuK's play either.


EMP hard-counters immortals because one EMP takes away all the (hardened) shield; then immortals are useless considering their high cost;
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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 28 2010 18:20 GMT
#1199
sean is losing it
:O
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
August 28 2010 18:20 GMT
#1200
On August 29 2010 03:16 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 03:15 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:10 Shikyo wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:09 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:04 Shikyo wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On August 29 2010 03:01 Nihility wrote:
On August 29 2010 02:59 DawgEm wrote:
if protoss is played right they are unstoppable. i play protoss, but i dont see as many protoss is OP complaints as much there should be.


The thing is that even if you don't play terran right (making marauders vs colossus/storm, queuing full on all rax) you can still win. And you can't queue on warpgates


queuing isn´t good macro

That's what he said. Assuming you wanted to disagree with him.



Day9 so boss! like 5th hour in a row!!!



Yes I wanted to disagree, it means Cauthonluck was so good he actually won a game with horrible macro.

His point is that Terran is so OP that he won even by playing poorly... And I don't understand what you were trying to say with your post, because that's exactly what he was saying.


I just wanted to disagree.
Like people want to disagree with statistics on the forums all the time lately.

And because you can´t queue with warpgates that means protoss has harder time having horrible macro, therefore Protosses have to play very badly to lose to T.

It makes sense IMO.

What I said is "queuing isn't good macro" is what he was saying, so that's not disagreeing, that's agreeing.


I disagree with what you said. Terran imba -> don´t have to make sense
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