NVIDIA GosuCup Qualifiers - Page 8

On August 17 2010 03:49 Sfydjklm wrote:

most streams are delayed by a couple of minutes, and as far as cheating in real sport goes - waht about chess?
What about steroids? Match fixing? cough cough.
Integrity will always take the backseat to entertainment value.

On August 17 2010 04:01 I_Love_Bacon wrote:


Most streams aren't delayed. Over long, long casts where people don't refresh it begins to widen the gap though. I'm glad you're justifying the existence of possible cheating because people in other areas of competitions have done it. Do games have a little more interest when they're casted live? Yes, but it has even less of an impact when we can't see player/fan reaction because all we have are what the commentators choose to say or not say at the moment.

With a legitimate amount of money on the line in some cases, ways to prevent cheating (when it's extremely easy to do) should be taken. Also, match fixing and steroids both spurred investigations to punish and prevent it from happening; all you're suggesting it ignoring.

On August 17 2010 04:08 Sfydjklm wrote:

Well the russian streamers are most definitely running with delay, and i dont see what is stopping anyone else from running witha delay. Its a non-argument.

Just like BP's oil spill launched investigation. There is an illusion of integrity. There is nothing in way of prevetion, just an attempt at distancing.

I am not suggesting ignoring it. I am just saying there is no way around streaming it live. Think about how to make streams better for everyone not about reasons not to make a stream in the first place.

On August 17 2010 04:13 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I specifically state that there should be a delay. That's all. All that's needed is for each and every streamer in serious tournaments to do so and it becomes a non-issue. Don't read into this like I'm trying to piss on the holy grail or dig up the remains of the virgin mary to desecrate. This isn't about BP, steroids, or chess. It's about a solution to cheating to appease players and viewers with the essential need for "live streams" to help increase viewership.

On August 17 2010 03:37 KamuL wrote:


sheth tried this yesterday vs him and got destroyed by it still. D:

and in the game vs catz ls forces back roaches with perfect micro yet again, so roaches off creep dont work vs him either.

On August 17 2010 04:33 iCCup.Diamond wrote:


Well the problem is modern streaming technology is built around the idea that they deliver as little as a delay as possible. And I have talked to every important person in both Ustream and Livestream before and they cannot add one.

This is why we did the ITL GP off of replays.

On August 17 2010 04:43 Sfydjklm wrote:
wait what, lastshadow is not asian?
I could swear i saw him being asian at some wcg event a few years back.

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