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starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
August 16 2010 14:52 GMT
#121
On August 16 2010 19:11 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 06:54 Sfydjklm wrote:
On August 16 2010 06:52 HuK wrote:
. watch these games live is a privilege dont feel so entitled

it's not;(
contrary to waht you might believe money dont grow on trees.

games dont have to be live to be watched
live streaming introduces so many problems, all tournaments should broadcast from replays a round behind the players.

honestly i have no idea how live streaming became the norm for these kinds of tournaments. god knows how many lag issues there have been and how many people have cheated off the stream.


There was one Bo3 in this tourney that everyone in my vent was pretty convinced the guy was being fed info from the stream. Would be nice if there was a delay on it at least. Knowing someone is faking an expo or switches tech after being scouted is pretty key.
thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
August 16 2010 15:11 GMT
#122
anyone have a link to the vods or replays?
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
August 16 2010 15:45 GMT
#123
On August 16 2010 19:11 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 06:54 Sfydjklm wrote:
On August 16 2010 06:52 HuK wrote:
. watch these games live is a privilege dont feel so entitled

it's not;(
contrary to waht you might believe money dont grow on trees.

games dont have to be live to be watched
live streaming introduces so many problems, all tournaments should broadcast from replays a round behind the players.

honestly i have no idea how live streaming became the norm for these kinds of tournaments. god knows how many lag issues there have been and how many people have cheated off the stream.

live casting is a standard for any sport, apart from something that is impossible to get live casted- i.e. rallying.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
KamuL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 19:36:29
August 16 2010 17:07 GMT
#124
rawr
IsAi.199 =) Roar
Puremiss
Profile Joined August 2008
United States232 Posts
August 16 2010 17:08 GMT
#125
^ yep, haypro vs lastshadow and huk vs socke on the half hour
KamuL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 19:32:46
August 16 2010 17:29 GMT
#126
IsAi.199 =) Roar
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 17:38:31
August 16 2010 17:38 GMT
#127
On August 17 2010 00:45 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 19:11 IdrA wrote:
On August 16 2010 06:54 Sfydjklm wrote:
On August 16 2010 06:52 HuK wrote:
. watch these games live is a privilege dont feel so entitled

it's not;(
contrary to waht you might believe money dont grow on trees.

games dont have to be live to be watched
live streaming introduces so many problems, all tournaments should broadcast from replays a round behind the players.

honestly i have no idea how live streaming became the norm for these kinds of tournaments. god knows how many lag issues there have been and how many people have cheated off the stream.

live casting is a standard for any sport, apart from something that is impossible to get live casted- i.e. rallying.


Live casting for others sports can't somehow lend to cheating extremely easily... it can in esports like this. When the casters or organizers find a way to delay a stream by a couple of minutes it will become a non-issue (well, on the cheating end at least). I care more about the integrity of the matches than I do about knowing I see something EXACTLY when it occurs... especially when it's not like we can see player's reactions anyhow.

btw: Go Haypro.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 16 2010 17:54 GMT
#128
Was lastshadow always this good? Given all of the ridicule he's gotten here I thought the guy would be much worse.
Midj
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada253 Posts
August 16 2010 17:57 GMT
#129
On August 17 2010 02:54 Slow Motion wrote:
Was lastshadow always this good? Given all of the ridicule he's gotten here I thought the guy would be much worse.


I just hopped into the stream, was that his first game against Haypro?

He came back from a big difference. I'm surprised Haypro didn't have infestors out to deal with the MMM.
I enjoy watching more than playing.
50bani
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Romania480 Posts
August 16 2010 17:58 GMT
#130
Wow I thought Haypro had the game but I guess Zerg really is awful.

And yes, LS is very good. He is better than Kawaii at least from what is said.
I'm posting on twoplustwo because I have always been amazed at the level of talent that populates this site --- it's almost unparalleled on the Internet.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 16 2010 18:03 GMT
#131
On August 17 2010 02:54 Slow Motion wrote:
Was lastshadow always this good? Given all of the ridicule he's gotten here I thought the guy would be much worse.


Depends on the maps...

I keeed I keeed.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
KamuL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 19:36:51
August 16 2010 18:08 GMT
#132
o.o
IsAi.199 =) Roar
Nairul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States262 Posts
August 16 2010 18:18 GMT
#133
On August 17 2010 03:08 KamuL wrote:
ls is considered one of the best T's in the foreign scene right now o.o and he just started july 27th basically xd


You're so cute! cute cute q t pie.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
August 16 2010 18:30 GMT
#134
Even by Zerg standards, Haypro seems to be horrendous versus Terran.
KamuL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States154 Posts
August 16 2010 18:31 GMT
#135
ls reaper micro is unfair xd
IsAi.199 =) Roar
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
August 16 2010 18:35 GMT
#136
man it seems like these top zergs cant even touch LS's pure reaper strategy. They seem dumbfounded about what really to do against it. While watching, I noticed LS using his reapers in familiar spots over and over again on the maps. Knowing this, why wouldnt the zerg tech to banelings while researching burrow. Burrow 1-2 banelings in the spots that LS constantly abuses (the ramp area/side of the main) and just detonate them without unburrowing as he flies over top.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17069 Posts
August 16 2010 18:36 GMT
#137
On August 17 2010 02:54 Slow Motion wrote:
Was lastshadow always this good? Given all of the ridicule he's gotten here I thought the guy would be much worse.


Lastshadow was actually quite a good BW player, he was just involved in a map-fixing scandal that made him seem much better than he was. But he always had the underlying mechanics to be a decent player. With the advent of SC2 and the much lower current skill ceiling, it's no surprise that he's a contender at fairly high levels.
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KamuL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States154 Posts
August 16 2010 18:37 GMT
#138
On August 17 2010 03:35 eXigent. wrote:
man it seems like these top zergs cant even touch LS's pure reaper strategy. They seem dumbfounded about what really to do against it. While watching, I noticed LS using his reapers in familiar spots over and over again on the maps. Knowing this, why wouldnt the zerg tech to banelings while researching burrow. Burrow 1-2 banelings in the spots that LS constantly abuses (the ramp area/side of the main) and just detonate them without unburrowing as he flies over top.


sheth tried this yesterday vs him and got destroyed by it still. D:

and in the game vs catz ls forces back roaches with perfect micro yet again, so roaches off creep dont work vs him either.
IsAi.199 =) Roar
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
August 16 2010 18:49 GMT
#139
On August 17 2010 02:38 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 00:45 Sfydjklm wrote:
On August 16 2010 19:11 IdrA wrote:
On August 16 2010 06:54 Sfydjklm wrote:
On August 16 2010 06:52 HuK wrote:
. watch these games live is a privilege dont feel so entitled

it's not;(
contrary to waht you might believe money dont grow on trees.

games dont have to be live to be watched
live streaming introduces so many problems, all tournaments should broadcast from replays a round behind the players.

honestly i have no idea how live streaming became the norm for these kinds of tournaments. god knows how many lag issues there have been and how many people have cheated off the stream.

live casting is a standard for any sport, apart from something that is impossible to get live casted- i.e. rallying.


Live casting for others sports can't somehow lend to cheating extremely easily... it can in esports like this. When the casters or organizers find a way to delay a stream by a couple of minutes it will become a non-issue (well, on the cheating end at least). I care more about the integrity of the matches than I do about knowing I see something EXACTLY when it occurs... especially when it's not like we can see player's reactions anyhow.

btw: Go Haypro.

most streams are delayed by a couple of minutes, and as far as cheating in real sport goes - waht about chess?
What about steroids? Match fixing? cough cough.
Integrity will always take the backseat to entertainment value.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
August 16 2010 18:51 GMT
#140
On August 17 2010 03:35 eXigent. wrote:
man it seems like these top zergs cant even touch LS's pure reaper strategy. They seem dumbfounded about what really to do against it. While watching, I noticed LS using his reapers in familiar spots over and over again on the maps. Knowing this, why wouldnt the zerg tech to banelings while researching burrow. Burrow 1-2 banelings in the spots that LS constantly abuses (the ramp area/side of the main) and just detonate them without unburrowing as he flies over top.

i've straight up baneling busted LS when he went reapers vs me.
He raged.
Brag?
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
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