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On April 18 2010 17:28 Kr1pos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 17:26 Mereel wrote: idra had the hole map lol....every single expansion Did he? I just thought he was spawning creep with his overlords? You're right, he had 5 expansions in the end. (6 main/nat, 3 main/nat and the gold in between.)
IdrA is a beast.
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Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.
Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing.
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it looked like buildings on the minimap but hard to see...
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On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote: Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.
Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing.
didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold.
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Dont think fast expo is the best idea vs a macro beast like idra.
Worked good vs artosis but not vs idra^^.
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Watch them revive beckham, and beckham cheese idra
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On April 18 2010 17:30 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote: Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.
Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing. didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold.
I thought one of the broodlords was visible but the others were out of sight range. Beckham didn't have blink. THAT cost him the game because he could've easily wiped out the broodlords if he had blink on those stalkers.
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gogo IdrA defeat the great China!
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On April 18 2010 17:35 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 17:30 rauk wrote:On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote: Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.
Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing. didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold. I thought one of the broodlords was visible but the others were out of sight range. Beckham didn't have blink. THAT cost him the game because he could've easily wiped out the broodlords if he had blink on those stalkers.
it seems kinda silly that he wouldn't kill a broodlord that was in the middle of morphing, and no one would morph a single broodlord at a time. so if he noticed, he could have extrapolated, "oh, idra's making a bunch of broodlords" and forced idra to cancel at the very least, which would have bought him enough time to bust down idra's nat. im pretty sure beckham just didn't see the stalker attacking the broodlord and a-moved idra's nat.
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On April 18 2010 17:31 Technique wrote: Dont think fast expo is the best idea vs a macro beast like idra.
Worked good vs artosis but not vs idra^^.
fast expo is definitely not the reason why he lost, slow clossi is the reason.
In the game vs Artosis, he went for clossi much faster.
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On April 18 2010 17:38 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 17:35 Azarkon wrote:On April 18 2010 17:30 rauk wrote:On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote: Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.
Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing. didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold. I thought one of the broodlords was visible but the others were out of sight range. Beckham didn't have blink. THAT cost him the game because he could've easily wiped out the broodlords if he had blink on those stalkers. it seems kinda silly that he wouldn't kill a broodlord that was in the middle of morphing, and no one would morph a single broodlord at a time. so if he noticed, he could have extrapolated, "oh, idra's making a bunch of broodlords" and forced idra to cancel at the very least, which would have bought him enough time to bust down idra's nat. im pretty sure beckham just didn't see the stalker attacking the broodlord and a-moved idra's nat.
I don't think the other broodlords would've been in range. They were over a ledge, no?
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On April 18 2010 17:40 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 17:38 rauk wrote:On April 18 2010 17:35 Azarkon wrote:On April 18 2010 17:30 rauk wrote:On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote: Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.
Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing. didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold. I thought one of the broodlords was visible but the others were out of sight range. Beckham didn't have blink. THAT cost him the game because he could've easily wiped out the broodlords if he had blink on those stalkers. it seems kinda silly that he wouldn't kill a broodlord that was in the middle of morphing, and no one would morph a single broodlord at a time. so if he noticed, he could have extrapolated, "oh, idra's making a bunch of broodlords" and forced idra to cancel at the very least, which would have bought him enough time to bust down idra's nat. im pretty sure beckham just didn't see the stalker attacking the broodlord and a-moved idra's nat. I don't think the other broodlords would've been in range. They were over a ledge, no?
I think they were in the middle of the map but all of them except for the one the stalker was shooting at were behind the tall grass.
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On April 18 2010 17:40 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 17:38 rauk wrote:On April 18 2010 17:35 Azarkon wrote:On April 18 2010 17:30 rauk wrote:On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote: Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.
Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing. didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold. I thought one of the broodlords was visible but the others were out of sight range. Beckham didn't have blink. THAT cost him the game because he could've easily wiped out the broodlords if he had blink on those stalkers. it seems kinda silly that he wouldn't kill a broodlord that was in the middle of morphing, and no one would morph a single broodlord at a time. so if he noticed, he could have extrapolated, "oh, idra's making a bunch of broodlords" and forced idra to cancel at the very least, which would have bought him enough time to bust down idra's nat. im pretty sure beckham just didn't see the stalker attacking the broodlord and a-moved idra's nat. I don't think the other broodlords would've been in range. They were over a ledge, no?
They were hovering in the fog area behind the grass if I remember correctly, he was already attacking with one of his stalkers, but didn't bring the rest of them back, he just started chasing roaches.
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On April 18 2010 17:39 hydraden wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 17:31 Technique wrote: Dont think fast expo is the best idea vs a macro beast like idra.
Worked good vs artosis but not vs idra^^. fast expo is definitely not the reason why he lost, slow clossi is the reason. In the game vs Artosis, he went for clossi much faster.
My personal thought is that Idra's build can be countered with a combination of blink stalker harass in his main + fast colossi pressure on his expo.
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Idra vs. Loner is up. I think Idra is favored because Loner's TvZ is his weakest match-up.
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On April 18 2010 17:46 Azarkon wrote: Idra vs. Loner is up. I think Idra is favored because Loner's PvZ is his weakest match-up.
Loner is T
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Idra just saw the thor/medivac build
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