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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7104 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 08:30:19
April 18 2010 08:29 GMT
#721
On April 18 2010 17:28 Kr1pos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 17:26 Mereel wrote:
idra had the hole map lol....every single expansion

Did he? I just thought he was spawning creep with his overlords?

You're right, he had 5 expansions in the end. (6 main/nat, 3 main/nat and the gold in between.)

IdrA is a beast.
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
April 18 2010 08:29 GMT
#722
Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.

Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing.
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
April 18 2010 08:30 GMT
#723
it looked like buildings on the minimap but hard to see...
TPW Mapmaking Team
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 08:30:47
April 18 2010 08:30 GMT
#724
On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.

Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing.


didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
April 18 2010 08:31 GMT
#725
Dont think fast expo is the best idea vs a macro beast like idra.

Worked good vs artosis but not vs idra^^.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
April 18 2010 08:34 GMT
#726
Watch them revive beckham, and beckham cheese idra
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 18 2010 08:35 GMT
#727
On April 18 2010 17:30 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.

Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing.


didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold.


I thought one of the broodlords was visible but the others were out of sight range. Beckham didn't have blink. THAT cost him the game because he could've easily wiped out the broodlords if he had blink on those stalkers.
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
April 18 2010 08:35 GMT
#728
gogo IdrA defeat the great China!
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 08:39:13
April 18 2010 08:38 GMT
#729
On April 18 2010 17:35 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 17:30 rauk wrote:
On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.

Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing.


didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold.


I thought one of the broodlords was visible but the others were out of sight range. Beckham didn't have blink. THAT cost him the game because he could've easily wiped out the broodlords if he had blink on those stalkers.


it seems kinda silly that he wouldn't kill a broodlord that was in the middle of morphing, and no one would morph a single broodlord at a time. so if he noticed, he could have extrapolated, "oh, idra's making a bunch of broodlords" and forced idra to cancel at the very least, which would have bought him enough time to bust down idra's nat. im pretty sure beckham just didn't see the stalker attacking the broodlord and a-moved idra's nat.
endGame
Profile Joined June 2009
United States394 Posts
April 18 2010 08:39 GMT
#730
IdrA fighting!
"...As the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must." -Thucydides
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
April 18 2010 08:39 GMT
#731
On April 18 2010 17:31 Technique wrote:
Dont think fast expo is the best idea vs a macro beast like idra.

Worked good vs artosis but not vs idra^^.


fast expo is definitely not the reason why he lost, slow clossi is the reason.

In the game vs Artosis, he went for clossi much faster.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 18 2010 08:40 GMT
#732
On April 18 2010 17:38 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 17:35 Azarkon wrote:
On April 18 2010 17:30 rauk wrote:
On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.

Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing.


didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold.


I thought one of the broodlords was visible but the others were out of sight range. Beckham didn't have blink. THAT cost him the game because he could've easily wiped out the broodlords if he had blink on those stalkers.


it seems kinda silly that he wouldn't kill a broodlord that was in the middle of morphing, and no one would morph a single broodlord at a time. so if he noticed, he could have extrapolated, "oh, idra's making a bunch of broodlords" and forced idra to cancel at the very least, which would have bought him enough time to bust down idra's nat. im pretty sure beckham just didn't see the stalker attacking the broodlord and a-moved idra's nat.


I don't think the other broodlords would've been in range. They were over a ledge, no?
MelancholyMark
Profile Joined February 2010
United States39 Posts
April 18 2010 08:41 GMT
#733
On April 18 2010 17:40 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 17:38 rauk wrote:
On April 18 2010 17:35 Azarkon wrote:
On April 18 2010 17:30 rauk wrote:
On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.

Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing.


didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold.


I thought one of the broodlords was visible but the others were out of sight range. Beckham didn't have blink. THAT cost him the game because he could've easily wiped out the broodlords if he had blink on those stalkers.


it seems kinda silly that he wouldn't kill a broodlord that was in the middle of morphing, and no one would morph a single broodlord at a time. so if he noticed, he could have extrapolated, "oh, idra's making a bunch of broodlords" and forced idra to cancel at the very least, which would have bought him enough time to bust down idra's nat. im pretty sure beckham just didn't see the stalker attacking the broodlord and a-moved idra's nat.


I don't think the other broodlords would've been in range. They were over a ledge, no?


I think they were in the middle of the map but all of them except for the one the stalker was shooting at were behind the tall grass.
mighty_honour_korea
Profile Joined March 2010
Scotland198 Posts
April 18 2010 08:42 GMT
#734
On April 18 2010 17:40 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 17:38 rauk wrote:
On April 18 2010 17:35 Azarkon wrote:
On April 18 2010 17:30 rauk wrote:
On April 18 2010 17:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
Idra had 4 or 5 bases, couldn't tell due to mini.

Not sure why beckham didnt use his stalkers to take down those broodlords while morphing.


didn't pay enough attention, you could see that one stalker was attacking one of the morphing broodlords, but it cost him the game. and it was definitely 4 normal expos + 1 gold.


I thought one of the broodlords was visible but the others were out of sight range. Beckham didn't have blink. THAT cost him the game because he could've easily wiped out the broodlords if he had blink on those stalkers.


it seems kinda silly that he wouldn't kill a broodlord that was in the middle of morphing, and no one would morph a single broodlord at a time. so if he noticed, he could have extrapolated, "oh, idra's making a bunch of broodlords" and forced idra to cancel at the very least, which would have bought him enough time to bust down idra's nat. im pretty sure beckham just didn't see the stalker attacking the broodlord and a-moved idra's nat.


I don't think the other broodlords would've been in range. They were over a ledge, no?


They were hovering in the fog area behind the grass if I remember correctly, he was already attacking with one of his stalkers, but didn't bring the rest of them back, he just started chasing roaches.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 18 2010 08:43 GMT
#735
On April 18 2010 17:39 hydraden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 17:31 Technique wrote:
Dont think fast expo is the best idea vs a macro beast like idra.

Worked good vs artosis but not vs idra^^.


fast expo is definitely not the reason why he lost, slow clossi is the reason.

In the game vs Artosis, he went for clossi much faster.


My personal thought is that Idra's build can be countered with a combination of blink stalker harass in his main + fast colossi pressure on his expo.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7104 Posts
April 18 2010 08:46 GMT
#736
If Justin.tv lags you might want to try this one

http://www.livestream.com/eslradiowc3
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 08:49:55
April 18 2010 08:46 GMT
#737
Idra vs. Loner is up. I think Idra is favored because Loner's TvZ is his weakest match-up.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 18 2010 08:47 GMT
#738
THOR from Loner.
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
April 18 2010 08:49 GMT
#739
On April 18 2010 17:46 Azarkon wrote:
Idra vs. Loner is up. I think Idra is favored because Loner's PvZ is his weakest match-up.


Loner is T
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
April 18 2010 08:53 GMT
#740
Idra just saw the thor/medivac build
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
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