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RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
May 02 2010 19:24 GMT
#781
nice whining lalush, I smell jealousy
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fishlips
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania39 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 19:28:15
May 02 2010 19:24 GMT
#782
On May 03 2010 04:01 Gont wrote:
so bad how nani allways plays 4-5 warpgate or 1 robo 3-4 warpgate ALL-IN...i think i never saw a game of him where he build an expansion and won with it...

sentries are overpowerd :/



is very sad that there are still people like you, which unfortunately still stand under the sun.
how can you complain of imbalance knowing that you have an IQ of 30 (you need to breathe
about 40 or something , sometimes you do not stop breathing?) you want to see fast expo by zerg and still winning,
(zerg always choose to make fast expo put mass units and 1a2a3a, and all say that without expo Zerg
not resist, actually choose this path because it is very easy to put this fast expand)
so zerg choose to put expo + drones, and P choose to push from five gateways,
who should win?
ps : delete ur acc. thx anticipated


same for lalush and demuslim and many others who are whining about imba.


I wish I was born a cannibal, not the desire to eat someone or someone else, but the desire to vomit
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
May 02 2010 19:24 GMT
#783
On May 03 2010 03:06 LaLuSh wrote:
Gonna be fun to see naniwa 4gate dimaga every game. Hope he wins 3-0, so blizzard get a clue.


<3
Gont
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany239 Posts
May 02 2010 19:39 GMT
#784
On May 03 2010 04:24 fishlips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 04:01 Gont wrote:
so bad how nani allways plays 4-5 warpgate or 1 robo 3-4 warpgate ALL-IN...i think i never saw a game of him where he build an expansion and won with it...

sentries are overpowerd :/



is very sad that there are still people like you, which unfortunately still stand under the sun.
how can you complain of imbalance knowing that you have an IQ of 30 (you need to breathe
about 40 or something , sometimes you do not stop breathing?) you want to see fast expo by zerg and still winning,
(zerg always choose to make fast expo put mass units and 1a2a3a, and all say that without expo Zerg
not resist, actually choose this path because it is very easy to put this fast expand)
so zerg choose to put expo + drones, and P choose to push from five gateways,
who should win?
ps : delete ur acc. thx anticipated



1. my post was more about flaming naniwa because he simply ALLWAYS makes this push
2. we dont even need to discuss that forcefields are overpowered right now because they simply are...a t1.5 caster dealing huge dmg and has a skill which allows you to block ur opponents ramp for eternity...seriously?
3. in my experience the warpgate push is even harder to defend without fe then with fe u just need the extra larva...u just shouldnt be too greedy with powering drones
4. IMO Toss is broken right now. They are fucking strong on one base but suck at macroing and will most likely loose to any good zerg in a longterm macro battle. Maybe toss needs a 2nd and 3rd macro ability like zergs and terrans have.

So all in all i dont think that toss is overpowered in general. Its just that i think the current style of most Tosses is broken because its no fun to play,play against or watch.

I am playing zerg as mainrace but switched to random now because i got bored. platinum top 3 pre reset now plat top 20. This is my opinion if u dont agree tell me why and dont flame like a moron.
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 19:41:44
May 02 2010 19:39 GMT
#785
On May 03 2010 04:24 RotterdaM wrote:
nice whining lalush, I smell jealousy


I think Lalushes accomplishment are quite a bit more impressive than those of that WoW warrior. I bet he's good at rerolling his druid, but come on.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
fishlips
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania39 Posts
May 02 2010 19:54 GMT
#786
On May 03 2010 04:39 Gont wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 04:24 fishlips wrote:
On May 03 2010 04:01 Gont wrote:
so bad how nani allways plays 4-5 warpgate or 1 robo 3-4 warpgate ALL-IN...i think i never saw a game of him where he build an expansion and won with it...

sentries are overpowerd :/



is very sad that there are still people like you, which unfortunately still stand under the sun.
how can you complain of imbalance knowing that you have an IQ of 30 (you need to breathe
about 40 or something , sometimes you do not stop breathing?) you want to see fast expo by zerg and still winning,
(zerg always choose to make fast expo put mass units and 1a2a3a, and all say that without expo Zerg
not resist, actually choose this path because it is very easy to put this fast expand)
so zerg choose to put expo + drones, and P choose to push from five gateways,
who should win?
ps : delete ur acc. thx anticipated



1. my post was more about flaming naniwa because he simply ALLWAYS makes this push
2. we dont even need to discuss that forcefields are overpowered right now because they simply are...a t1.5 caster dealing huge dmg and has a skill which allows you to block ur opponents ramp for eternity...seriously?
3. in my experience the warpgate push is even harder to defend without fe then with fe u just need the extra larva...u just shouldnt be too greedy with powering drones
4. IMO Toss is broken right now. They are fucking strong on one base but suck at macroing and will most likely loose to any good zerg in a longterm macro battle. Maybe toss needs a 2nd and 3rd macro ability like zergs and terrans have.

So all in all i dont think that toss is overpowered in general. Its just that i think the current style of most Tosses is broken because its no fun to play,play against or watch.

I am playing zerg as mainrace but switched to random now because i got bored. platinum top 3 pre reset now plat top 20. This is my opinion if u dont agree tell me why and dont flame like a moron.



sentry dealing huge dmg? are u kidding me ? its 8 dmg and 80 hp. even a ling can beat 5 sentryes . i do not talk about imbalance, not like u, lets see the difference between players dont close ur eyes call everything imba . i dont think that forcefield its so imba , all that 3 races have support units, look at zerg, what about fungal of infestor.. .
try to look smart, if P are gonna make expo , a fast expo everygame, just like zerg, and for the moment will lose 70% of the games, how was in sc1, till bisu did his build, all the toss should cry, just like u, IMBA IMBA, EVERYTHING ITS IMBA.i think Z players are not so experienced and prefer to call it imba. n1. try to play better than u cry like a sissy.
I wish I was born a cannibal, not the desire to eat someone or someone else, but the desire to vomit
RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 21:39:31
May 02 2010 19:59 GMT
#787
ok no sense talking to you if you think naniwa is a wow player :D:D , just think its sad that everyone takes away the fact he wins 2 zotacs on a row and no one gives him any props for being the first player to do so, instead everyone cry's bout 4/5 gate and imbalance :D As far as i know this is just the 3rd toss victory in zotac of which 2 are his, is that imbalanced or actually well played? if dimaga won I guess we should have all been omg 6th zerg victory what the fuck blizzard open your eyes madness imbalanced?
Commentatorwww.instagram.com/RotterdaM08 for pictures of cute puppies.
HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
May 02 2010 20:00 GMT
#788
have you ever heard about sentries owning mutalisks ? it's a caster... a CASTER
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 20:03:03
May 02 2010 20:00 GMT
#789
I am sick of this whole "accomplishment" thing on this board. Who cares if you played good in the past? It just doesn't prove anything. So get back to the substantial arguments or leave it.

I don't like Nanis Style as well, but Dimaga did a poor job adjusting so no real point in these games. Maybe he was bothered by Lag who knows. Rdam is right you gotta give Nani credit allthough he is a flaming jerk.

Allthough I tend to agree with Gont I think it should be left as is for now because there is a lot of potential to explore left for this matchup.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
fishlips
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania39 Posts
May 02 2010 20:03 GMT
#790
On May 03 2010 05:00 HubertFelix wrote:
have you ever heard about sentries owning mutalisks ? it's a caster... a CASTER







sentry owning muta? =))))))))))))))))))))))))
maybe 2 sentry vs 2 muta, or 1 sentry vs 1 muta, but when the Z have 10-15 muta, beat them with ur sentry =)))))))))))
I wish I was born a cannibal, not the desire to eat someone or someone else, but the desire to vomit
HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
May 02 2010 20:06 GMT
#791
hehe if you think protoss player making 50% caster army every game is "normal" i don't know what to answer ^^

Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
May 02 2010 20:11 GMT
#792
On May 03 2010 04:59 RotterdaM wrote:
ok no sense talking to you if you think naniwa is an wow player :D:D , just think its sad when everyone takes away the fact he wins 2 zotacs on a row and should give him props for first player to do so, instead everyone cry's bout 4/5 gate and imbalance :D I think this is just 3rd toss victory of which 2 are his, is that imbalanced or actually well played? if dimaga won we should have been omg 6th zerg victory what the fuck blizzard open your eyes madness imbalanced?


So maybe he played DotA then. My bad. It's a bit unfair to assume that I should know the background of all these random players. I mean, I've no clue who the guy even is. I just saw someone mentioning WoW in context with him. But the point is, as Idra would put it: all he can do is allin. And he's a douche. Terrible, terrible combination. He needs to re-roll his druid.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
einohr
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany45 Posts
May 02 2010 20:11 GMT
#793
That's curious. I thought Zerg is still overpowered. Just read the threads about that. e.g. Interview with David Kim, etc.
taichou
Profile Joined February 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
May 02 2010 20:18 GMT
#794
well its interesting that in 1/4 of zotac there's like 5 zergs 3 toss's 0 terrans...
lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
May 02 2010 20:18 GMT
#795
On May 03 2010 04:59 RotterdaM wrote:
ok no sense talking to you if you think naniwa is an wow player :D:D , just think its sad when everyone takes away the fact he wins 2 zotacs on a row and should give him props for first player to do so, instead everyone cry's bout 4/5 gate and imbalance :D I think this is just 3rd toss victory of which 2 are his, is that imbalanced or actually well played? if dimaga won we should have been omg 6th zerg victory what the fuck blizzard open your eyes madness imbalanced?



This is quite a bad argument. Zerg was winning alot before, patches came and then Zerg didn't win everything.

I would be saying he played well if he actually didnt play the same build over and over again.
Now, I don't want to imply that this BO is overpowered. It could really just be a strong push that needs some clever counter to beat it. However, it sure raises some eyebrows as its currently destroying everything, in all matchups.
Flying Tushin!!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 02 2010 20:22 GMT
#796
On May 03 2010 05:06 HubertFelix wrote:
hehe if you think protoss player making 50% caster army every game is "normal" i don't know what to answer ^^



I'd be totally fine with a buff to stalker/zeal so we didn't have to cut off half your army just to deal with it... nerf the sentry on those grounds SURE!

lol
Gont
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany239 Posts
May 02 2010 20:25 GMT
#797
On May 03 2010 05:11 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 04:59 RotterdaM wrote:
ok no sense talking to you if you think naniwa is an wow player :D:D , just think its sad when everyone takes away the fact he wins 2 zotacs on a row and should give him props for first player to do so, instead everyone cry's bout 4/5 gate and imbalance :D I think this is just 3rd toss victory of which 2 are his, is that imbalanced or actually well played? if dimaga won we should have been omg 6th zerg victory what the fuck blizzard open your eyes madness imbalanced?


So maybe he played DotA then. My bad. It's a bit unfair to assume that I should know the background of all these random players. I mean, I've no clue who the guy even is. I just saw someone mentioning WoW in context with him. But the point is, as Idra would put it: all he can do is allin. And he's a douche. Terrible, terrible combination. He needs to re-roll his druid.

he played warcraft3 and was pretty good

ofc it requires skill to win the zotac (if not i would not bust out in round 3-5 every time :D) and i dont wanna blame nani for doing this if there are 100 euros on the line i just think it is no fun to see this every time.

@fishlips:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEEmJTPFv34&feature=PlayList&p=CCCE1306BE8B0C30&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=7

i think we should stop here since there wont be a reasonable discussion anyways

wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
May 02 2010 20:26 GMT
#798
So where can I get me them tasty replays for #10?
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 02 2010 20:28 GMT
#799
On May 03 2010 05:18 taichou wrote:
well its interesting that in 1/4 of zotac there's like 5 zergs 3 toss's 0 terrans...


Good players who joined this tournament (those who good seeded):

Zerg: Dimaga, BluBla, Horror, Moman, Brainbug, Naugrim, Scroll, Kenzy, Lalush, Haypro
Terrran: Morrow,
Protoss: Dragonfood, Goody, Krr, Naniwa, XlorD

Is it weird now that there are 0 terrans in top 4? lol. Because Demuslim, Lucifron, Strelok, Tarson, Jinro, Brat_OK, Kas, Ifunkyou, etc. are not playing it doesn't mean terran is weak LOL.
Same for Protoss: alot of top players didn't joined this cup.
And for zerg we got all the top players, but still a Protoss wins by 1base -> all in all his games.
fishlips
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania39 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 20:32:09
May 02 2010 20:31 GMT
#800
@gont if ur fighting like this, be sure i can beat ur 100 lings (without speed upgrade) with 3 stalkers, its 1a2a3a, u will never see a zerg player fighting like this ..
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