[R&S] ZOTAC SC2 Beta Cup - Page 40
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RotterdaM
Netherlands684 Posts
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fishlips
Romania39 Posts
On May 03 2010 04:01 Gont wrote: so bad how nani allways plays 4-5 warpgate or 1 robo 3-4 warpgate ALL-IN...i think i never saw a game of him where he build an expansion and won with it... sentries are overpowerd :/ is very sad that there are still people like you, which unfortunately still stand under the sun. how can you complain of imbalance knowing that you have an IQ of 30 (you need to breathe about 40 or something , sometimes you do not stop breathing?) you want to see fast expo by zerg and still winning, (zerg always choose to make fast expo put mass units and 1a2a3a, and all say that without expo Zerg not resist, actually choose this path because it is very easy to put this fast expand) so zerg choose to put expo + drones, and P choose to push from five gateways, who should win? ps : delete ur acc. thx anticipated same for lalush and demuslim and many others who are whining about imba. | ||
DeMusliM
United Kingdom401 Posts
On May 03 2010 03:06 LaLuSh wrote: Gonna be fun to see naniwa 4gate dimaga every game. Hope he wins 3-0, so blizzard get a clue. <3 | ||
Gont
Germany239 Posts
On May 03 2010 04:24 fishlips wrote: is very sad that there are still people like you, which unfortunately still stand under the sun. how can you complain of imbalance knowing that you have an IQ of 30 (you need to breathe about 40 or something , sometimes you do not stop breathing?) you want to see fast expo by zerg and still winning, (zerg always choose to make fast expo put mass units and 1a2a3a, and all say that without expo Zerg not resist, actually choose this path because it is very easy to put this fast expand) so zerg choose to put expo + drones, and P choose to push from five gateways, who should win? ps : delete ur acc. thx anticipated 1. my post was more about flaming naniwa because he simply ALLWAYS makes this push 2. we dont even need to discuss that forcefields are overpowered right now because they simply are...a t1.5 caster dealing huge dmg and has a skill which allows you to block ur opponents ramp for eternity...seriously? 3. in my experience the warpgate push is even harder to defend without fe then with fe u just need the extra larva...u just shouldnt be too greedy with powering drones 4. IMO Toss is broken right now. They are fucking strong on one base but suck at macroing and will most likely loose to any good zerg in a longterm macro battle. Maybe toss needs a 2nd and 3rd macro ability like zergs and terrans have. So all in all i dont think that toss is overpowered in general. Its just that i think the current style of most Tosses is broken because its no fun to play,play against or watch. I am playing zerg as mainrace but switched to random now because i got bored. platinum top 3 pre reset now plat top 20. This is my opinion if u dont agree tell me why and dont flame like a moron. | ||
Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On May 03 2010 04:24 RotterdaM wrote: nice whining lalush, I smell jealousy I think Lalushes accomplishment are quite a bit more impressive than those of that WoW warrior. I bet he's good at rerolling his druid, but come on. | ||
fishlips
Romania39 Posts
On May 03 2010 04:39 Gont wrote: 1. my post was more about flaming naniwa because he simply ALLWAYS makes this push 2. we dont even need to discuss that forcefields are overpowered right now because they simply are...a t1.5 caster dealing huge dmg and has a skill which allows you to block ur opponents ramp for eternity...seriously? 3. in my experience the warpgate push is even harder to defend without fe then with fe u just need the extra larva...u just shouldnt be too greedy with powering drones 4. IMO Toss is broken right now. They are fucking strong on one base but suck at macroing and will most likely loose to any good zerg in a longterm macro battle. Maybe toss needs a 2nd and 3rd macro ability like zergs and terrans have. So all in all i dont think that toss is overpowered in general. Its just that i think the current style of most Tosses is broken because its no fun to play,play against or watch. I am playing zerg as mainrace but switched to random now because i got bored. platinum top 3 pre reset now plat top 20. This is my opinion if u dont agree tell me why and dont flame like a moron. sentry dealing huge dmg? are u kidding me ? its 8 dmg and 80 hp. even a ling can beat 5 sentryes . i do not talk about imbalance, not like u, lets see the difference between players dont close ur eyes call everything imba . i dont think that forcefield its so imba , all that 3 races have support units, look at zerg, what about fungal of infestor.. . try to look smart, if P are gonna make expo , a fast expo everygame, just like zerg, and for the moment will lose 70% of the games, how was in sc1, till bisu did his build, all the toss should cry, just like u, IMBA IMBA, EVERYTHING ITS IMBA.i think Z players are not so experienced and prefer to call it imba. n1. try to play better than u cry like a sissy. | ||
RotterdaM
Netherlands684 Posts
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HubertFelix
France631 Posts
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
I don't like Nanis Style as well, but Dimaga did a poor job adjusting so no real point in these games. Maybe he was bothered by Lag who knows. Rdam is right you gotta give Nani credit allthough he is a flaming jerk. Allthough I tend to agree with Gont I think it should be left as is for now because there is a lot of potential to explore left for this matchup. | ||
fishlips
Romania39 Posts
On May 03 2010 05:00 HubertFelix wrote: have you ever heard about sentries owning mutalisks ? it's a caster... a CASTER ![]() sentry owning muta? =)))))))))))))))))))))))) maybe 2 sentry vs 2 muta, or 1 sentry vs 1 muta, but when the Z have 10-15 muta, beat them with ur sentry =))))))))))) | ||
HubertFelix
France631 Posts
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On May 03 2010 04:59 RotterdaM wrote: ok ![]() ![]() So maybe he played DotA then. My bad. It's a bit unfair to assume that I should know the background of all these random players. I mean, I've no clue who the guy even is. I just saw someone mentioning WoW in context with him. But the point is, as Idra would put it: all he can do is allin. And he's a douche. Terrible, terrible combination. He needs to re-roll his druid. | ||
einohr
Germany45 Posts
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taichou
Lithuania108 Posts
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lgd-haze
Sweden547 Posts
On May 03 2010 04:59 RotterdaM wrote: ok ![]() ![]() This is quite a bad argument. Zerg was winning alot before, patches came and then Zerg didn't win everything. I would be saying he played well if he actually didnt play the same build over and over again. Now, I don't want to imply that this BO is overpowered. It could really just be a strong push that needs some clever counter to beat it. However, it sure raises some eyebrows as its currently destroying everything, in all matchups. | ||
iNcontroL
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USA29055 Posts
On May 03 2010 05:06 HubertFelix wrote: hehe if you think protoss player making 50% caster army every game is "normal" i don't know what to answer ^^ I'd be totally fine with a buff to stalker/zeal so we didn't have to cut off half your army just to deal with it... nerf the sentry on those grounds SURE! lol | ||
Gont
Germany239 Posts
On May 03 2010 05:11 Squeegy wrote: So maybe he played DotA then. My bad. It's a bit unfair to assume that I should know the background of all these random players. I mean, I've no clue who the guy even is. I just saw someone mentioning WoW in context with him. But the point is, as Idra would put it: all he can do is allin. And he's a douche. Terrible, terrible combination. He needs to re-roll his druid. he played warcraft3 and was pretty good ![]() ofc it requires skill to win the zotac (if not i would not bust out in round 3-5 every time :D) and i dont wanna blame nani for doing this if there are 100 euros on the line i just think it is no fun to see this every time. @fishlips:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEEmJTPFv34&feature=PlayList&p=CCCE1306BE8B0C30&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=7 i think we should stop here since there wont be a reasonable discussion anyways | ||
wanderer
United States641 Posts
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On May 03 2010 05:18 taichou wrote: well its interesting that in 1/4 of zotac there's like 5 zergs 3 toss's 0 terrans... Good players who joined this tournament (those who good seeded): Zerg: Dimaga, BluBla, Horror, Moman, Brainbug, Naugrim, Scroll, Kenzy, Lalush, Haypro Terrran: Morrow, Protoss: Dragonfood, Goody, Krr, Naniwa, XlorD Is it weird now that there are 0 terrans in top 4? lol. Because Demuslim, Lucifron, Strelok, Tarson, Jinro, Brat_OK, Kas, Ifunkyou, etc. are not playing it doesn't mean terran is weak LOL. Same for Protoss: alot of top players didn't joined this cup. And for zerg we got all the top players, but still a Protoss wins by 1base -> all in all his games. | ||
fishlips
Romania39 Posts
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