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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 17:58:38
April 25 2010 17:58 GMT
#661
On April 26 2010 02:57 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2010 02:55 JWD wrote:
Cheating accusation has no basis but…does anyone else see a problem with live casting a money tournament? I'd like to say we should just have faith in players not to listen to the stream, but Zotac shouldn't be taking any chances. Is there any reason not to cast from replays?

to be honest watching replays wouldn't be the same for me... rather a delay like you might know from waaaghtv (wc3 program)

The entire TSL was casted from replays, I don't think that detracted from the experience too much…and it seems a small price to pay to completely prevent a super easy method of cheating.
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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
April 25 2010 17:59 GMT
#662
haha more bm in lobby chat this is too much rofl
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 18:01:13
April 25 2010 17:59 GMT
#663
anyway Momans response was pretty stupid, like as if he really cheated...

@JWD yeah well, but for Zotac you'd be able to find results on coverage pages (which i visit) before you want to know them...
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 25 2010 18:00 GMT
#664
On April 26 2010 02:59 HolydaKing wrote:
anyway Momans response was pretty stupid, like as if he really cheated...

yeah, just furthering the stereotype that all gamers are immature, classless sociopaths

and we wonder why there is stigma against video gaming in the US…
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 25 2010 18:00 GMT
#665
Nani was arguing that Moman cheated because in the replay, Moman sent out a drone early but didn't expand. Moman said that drone was for scouting.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7012 Posts
April 25 2010 18:01 GMT
#666
jesus fucking christ anally

The players really need to learn to behave, if I were to run a tournament like this I would definitely not be content with such behaviour.
Zed
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada16 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 18:02:54
April 25 2010 18:02 GMT
#667
You're going to tell me if someone just accused you of cheating, you wouldn't rage a bit?
That shit is infuriating.

That said. I think everything should be done from replays. Streams without any sort of delay are way too easy to cheat from.
Nerf
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 18:03:38
April 25 2010 18:02 GMT
#668
On April 26 2010 02:59 HolydaKing wrote:
anyway Momans response was pretty stupid, like as if he really cheated...

@JWD yeah well, but for Zotac you'd be able to find results on coverage pages (which i visit) before you want to know them...

I mean obviously Zotac would just withhold the results until they released the replays for casting, and even then it could spoiler them on its site
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 25 2010 18:03 GMT
#669
On April 26 2010 03:02 Zed wrote:
You're going to tell me if someone just accused you of cheating, you wouldn't rage a bit?
That shit is infuriating.

Um…I might be angry, but I would not call my opponent a "fucking retard" or tell him to go get cancer. There's always a line dude…it's not like having a good reason to be angry gives you license to do whatever the hell you want.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 25 2010 18:04 GMT
#670
On April 26 2010 03:02 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2010 02:59 HolydaKing wrote:
anyway Momans response was pretty stupid, like as if he really cheated...

@JWD yeah well, but for Zotac you'd be able to find results on coverage pages (which i visit) before you want to know them...

I mean obviously Zotac would just withhold the results until they released the results for casting, and even then it could spoiler them on its site

You are right, still would be kind of new to me as i'm used to watch games "almost live" from Wc3 and CS too. But like u said it's possible, not only in TSL.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 25 2010 18:04 GMT
#671
There should probably be a rule in future tournaments that accusations of cheating should be made after the game has finished.
einohr
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany45 Posts
April 25 2010 18:04 GMT
#672
I don't understand all the fuss about the 2.match. MoMan lost anyway. The Match from Bichu last weekend in which he ran straight to the proxy gateway had more potential of cheating.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 25 2010 18:05 GMT
#673
im not digging Nani.
I have same thing as Moman with my antivirus popping for updates so i could immediately relate.
Nani on the other hand before his first game vs Moman said that TheGunRun has nice music running and his first thought is to accuse Moman of cheating. Looks like he too could relate, although in a different way^^
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 25 2010 18:06 GMT
#674
On April 26 2010 03:04 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2010 03:02 JWD wrote:
On April 26 2010 02:59 HolydaKing wrote:
anyway Momans response was pretty stupid, like as if he really cheated...

@JWD yeah well, but for Zotac you'd be able to find results on coverage pages (which i visit) before you want to know them...

I mean obviously Zotac would just withhold the results until they released the results for casting, and even then it could spoiler them on its site

You are right, still would be kind of new to me as i'm used to watch games "almost live" from Wc3 and CS too. But like u said it's possible, not only in TSL.

Yeah there is really something to be said about the "live" experience, but unfortunately it's not very feasible outside of a LAN environment. But I'd love to see some sort of "broadcast delay" plugin for SC.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 18:10:26
April 25 2010 18:08 GMT
#675
why doesn't Zerg just counter to P main?

Edit: I guess he would've had a hard time wiping out that army in his main
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
April 25 2010 18:09 GMT
#676
hydras should kill the prism
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 18:10:36
April 25 2010 18:10 GMT
#677
Who is this Nani kid anyway? Any why does anyone care what he has to say? :S
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
April 25 2010 18:10 GMT
#678
YES GAME 4 INC..Beastly base defense
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7012 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 18:12:24
April 25 2010 18:11 GMT
#679
On April 26 2010 03:05 Sfydjklm wrote:
im not digging Nani.
I have same thing as Moman with my antivirus popping for updates so i could immediately relate.
Nani on the other hand before his first game vs Moman said that TheGunRun has nice music running and his first thought is to accuse Moman of cheating. Looks like he too could relate, although in a different way^^

He seriously commented on the music?

Because partly his suspicion could be the result of them talking about it on the stream..

Accusing someone for cheating while cheating surely is not a good idea, it just gets people to investigate the thing. =P

And commenting on the current game, I believe Moman did not play that well but rather Nani is being super bad and not expanding/using his minerals well at all. If he loses its his own fault.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 25 2010 18:13 GMT
#680
On April 26 2010 03:02 Zed wrote:
You're going to tell me if someone just accused you of cheating, you wouldn't rage a bit?
That shit is infuriating.

That said. I think everything should be done from replays. Streams without any sort of delay are way too easy to cheat from.


any good player should be used to accusations of cheating

it happens like every day if u play a lot
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