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On April 26 2010 02:51 zerglingsfolife wrote:
A basic run down is that nani went and double proxy gated, moman pauses game he says 2 sec, antivirus lol. Then they resume game, nani accuses moman of cheating and checking stream, moman calls nani a retard and tells him to get cancer and die
well.. moman took like 2 minutes to put off that anti virus so i would have thought something is wrong too.
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On April 26 2010 02:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Quotes for those missing the stream?
Desert Oasis Nani goes two gate proxy, previous history is that they've been calling eachother super good players "monster z/p" etc. and asking eachother not to rape them. While Nani is proxying Moman pauses the game and says his antivirus is acting up, a spectator says (in spectator mode) that Moman might be checking the stream jokingly. Moman comes back and they continue, when Nani sees Moman has not expanded he instantly calls Moman a cheater and then Moman reacts quite badly and they start throwing out curse words at eachother.
I believe Nani might've thrown the initial accusement because Moman said "lol" during the game just before the zealots were in Moman's vision. Moman said lol because he scouted Nani's base with an ol and saw no buildings.
ZOTAC really needs to ban chat if the tournaments are full of immature idiots like these.
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On April 26 2010 02:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Quotes for those missing the stream?
Nani did proxy 2gate.
Moman paused the game, saying his antivirus was acting up.
Nani accuses Moman of cheating after Moman had a drone and overlord in P's base.
Then everything goes to shit and they start flinging insults.
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Hm now that I think about it how come it wasn't censored? Is it because its europe server?
But Moman paused and said "antivirus plz wait2sec"
and took awhile and nani was like "??hello? hey? fixed?"
and then moman found out that nani did a proxy gate and then said "lol" and i guess nani thought moman went on the stream during the pause and said "antivirus my ass (:" and then moman was like "? idk what u r talking about?" and nani just says "i'm saying you cheated you fucking retard"
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"accusing me of cheating. Are you fucking retarded??"
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- naniwa make a proxy 2 gate.
- MoMaN pause the game because of his antivirus.
- The game resume, MoMaN has his overlord in P base where there is nothing, and say "LOL" and then make zergling + spine crawler.
- naniwa then say that he cheated, "get a cancer and die", ...
- MoMaN said fucking retard or something like that.
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On April 26 2010 02:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Quotes for those missing the stream?
Nani proxy 2 gates.
Moman lag spikes then pauses claiming antivirus issues. He tabs for 30 seconds or so.
As he comes back his overlord reaches Nani's main (without changing scouting pattern) and scouts that he's being proxy rushed.
Moman says "lol"
Nani accuses him of cheating by looking at stream
Moman is like wtf
Nani compares him to some other cheater
Moman rages
Nani was way out of line if he didn't have any evidence and if you wanted to cheat you could you listen to the cast without having to check the stream.
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On April 26 2010 02:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Quotes for those missing the stream?
Paraphrasing, it went like this:
*pause game*
Moman: sorry, antivirus
mtwnani: ?
*minute later*
Moman: ok go sry
*resume game*
mtwnani: lol
mtwnani: you cheated
Moman: ? you are fucking retarded
mtwnani: u same
Moman: lol i hope u get cancer and die
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Really disgraceful BM for the finals. If they want SC2 to be professional they should act like it.
Ok awesome manner for moman after he cooled down a bit! 
Nani stiill was a bit ehh
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I'd like to see the replay but there were some fishy things in addition to the pause. But I don't really think he needed to pause to be cheating via stream
His first drone went out to his natural and then turned around, maybe he was checking for proxy but that's the dumbest place to proxy, everyone does it on the 2nd side.
Then he overlord scouts, did he drone scout as well? Because his Overlord never went to the Ps ramp at all
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On April 26 2010 02:52 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2010 02:51 zerglingsfolife wrote:
A basic run down is that nani went and double proxy gated, moman pauses game he says 2 sec, antivirus lol. Then they resume game, nani accuses moman of cheating and checking stream, moman calls nani a retard and tells him to get cancer and die well.. moman took like 2 minutes to put off that anti virus so i would have thought something is wrong too.
Except that tabbing to check the minimap on a stream in a commentated game is kinda stupid. Just listen.
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Cheating accusation has no basis but…does anyone else see a problem with live casting a money tournament? I'd like to say we should just have faith in players not to listen to the stream, but Zotac shouldn't be taking any chances. Is there any reason not to cast from replays?
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Moman pauses and says anti-virus, nani starts asking "you there?/hello?/gogo?" after like 10-15 secs and moman wasn't there.
Moman: "Lol" (ovie got to the top of nani's base)
Nani: "Anti-virus, yeah right"
Moman: "What are you trying to say?"
Nani: "I'm saying you cheated"
then moman asked nani to get cancer and die and told him he'd never change, nani repeated everything back to moman. An admin said "please..." moman replied you didn't say "plz" when he accused me of cheating.
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On April 26 2010 02:54 floor exercise wrote:
I'd like to see the replay but there were some fishy things in addition to the pause. But I don't really think he needed to pause to be cheating via stream
His first drone went out to his natural and then turned around, maybe he was checking for proxy but that's the dumbest place to proxy, everyone does it on the 2nd side.
Then he overlord scouts, did he drone scout as well? Because his Overlord never went to the Ps ramp at all
Nani had no gas. That is almost always a proxy 2 gate.
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On April 26 2010 02:54 Snausages wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2010 02:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Quotes for those missing the stream? Paraphrasing, it went like this: *pause game* Moman: sorry, antivirus mtwnani: ? *minute later* Moman: ok go sry *resume game* mtwnani: lol mtwnani: you cheated Moman: ? you are fucking retarded mtwnani: u same Moman: lol i hope u get cancer and die
he said lol though, after saying you cheated.
I think he was kidding initially, and bugged out when the moman reacted
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On April 26 2010 02:55 Count9 wrote:
Moman pauses and says anti-virus, nani starts asking "you there?/hello?/gogo?" after like 10-15 secs and moman wasn't there.
Moman: "Lol" (ovie got to the top of nony's base)
Nani: "Anti-virus, yeah right"
Moman: "What are you trying to say?"
Nani: "I'm saying you cheated"
then moman asked nani to get cancer and die and told him he'd never change, nani repeated everything back to moman. An admin said "please..." moman replied you didn't say "plz" when he accused me of cheating.
Note that this is NaNi, not NonY!!
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On April 26 2010 02:55 JWD wrote:
Cheating accusation has no basis but…does anyone else see a problem with live casting a money tournament? I'd like to say we should just have faith in players not to listen to the stream, but Zotac shouldn't be taking any chances. Is there any reason not to cast from replays?
to be honest watching replays wouldn't be the same for me... rather a delay like you might know from waaaghtv (wc3 program)
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On April 26 2010 02:56 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2010 02:54 floor exercise wrote:
I'd like to see the replay but there were some fishy things in addition to the pause. But I don't really think he needed to pause to be cheating via stream
His first drone went out to his natural and then turned around, maybe he was checking for proxy but that's the dumbest place to proxy, everyone does it on the 2nd side.
Then he overlord scouts, did he drone scout as well? Because his Overlord never went to the Ps ramp at all Nani had no gas. That is almost always a proxy 2 gate.
I agree but the "lol" makes him sound so cocksure that it's kind of unsettling. Who knows what kind of stupid forge first build he could have been trying. I still see a lot of bad builds.
And apparently it was his 14th drone going to natural
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On April 26 2010 02:55 JWD wrote:
Cheating accusation has no basis but…does anyone else see a problem with live casting a money tournament? I'd like to say we should just have faith in players not to listen to the stream, but Zotac shouldn't be taking any chances. Is there any reason not to cast from replays?
Perfect solution would be delayed stream imo. because then there wouldn't be problems with having to hide the replay bar and making sure the commentators dont see the results etc.
How come is Nani insulting Moman for cheating by the way the drone moved, he had no vision of it so he wouldn't know that it looked like he was expoing but then scouted instead.
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On April 26 2010 02:57 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2010 02:55 Count9 wrote:
Moman pauses and says anti-virus, nani starts asking "you there?/hello?/gogo?" after like 10-15 secs and moman wasn't there.
Moman: "Lol" (ovie got to the top of nony's base)
Nani: "Anti-virus, yeah right"
Moman: "What are you trying to say?"
Nani: "I'm saying you cheated"
then moman asked nani to get cancer and die and told him he'd never change, nani repeated everything back to moman. An admin said "please..." moman replied you didn't say "plz" when he accused me of cheating. Note that this is NaNi, not NonY!!
Edited xD
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