EPTBomber vs. Scarlett: Breaking Down the Madness - Page 3
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Jer99
Canada8160 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On January 06 2014 18:40 SidianTheBard wrote: About ~10 seconds before, Bomber scanned the direct spot that Scarlett burrowed her first banelings, she instead pretended to run away with her entire army because bomber didn't know she had burrow. Once the scan wore out she moved her two banelings back towards the watchtower and proceeded to "play dumb" (aka bait) with her mutas to get the marines to go ontop of the banelings. Since Bomber just scanned recently he probably assumed everything was 100% safe. Hardly luck... Burrowed banelings are so gimmicky that I have a hard time liking games that are won by them. Same with baneling busts, actually. | ||
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Doominator10
United States515 Posts
On January 07 2014 07:42 maartendq wrote: Burrowed banelings are so gimmicky that I have a hard time liking games that are won by them. Same with baneling busts, actually. Son... I am disappoint... Anyone want to go into the long tedious debate as to the definition of 'gimmicky' and why this was not a 'gimmick' | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On January 07 2014 07:42 maartendq wrote: Burrowed banelings are so gimmicky that I have a hard time liking games that are won by them. Same with baneling busts, actually. 3/3 stim marines are pretty hard to kill without banelings man. | ||
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Kon-Tiki
United States402 Posts
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On January 07 2014 07:42 maartendq wrote: Burrowed banelings are so gimmicky that I have a hard time liking games that are won by them. Same with baneling busts, actually. Widow Mines are so gimmicky that I have a hard time liking games that are won by them. Same with bio drops actually. No seriously, if 4M is a perfectly legit strategy, so is ling bling muta. | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On January 07 2014 07:42 maartendq wrote: Burrowed banelings are so gimmicky that I have a hard time liking games that are won by them. Same with baneling busts, actually. It was perhaps not emphasized enough in the article, but Scarlett's use of ultra late game, low-economy baneling landmines is pure genius and has nothing to do with gimmicks. In such low economy situations, 1) the zerg cannot afford to throw mass ling/bling at the terran and hope to overwhelm 3/3 marines with good splits and 2) terran can't freely scan because they are low on SCVs and need to use primarily MULEs to feed their economy. The combination of these two things makes baneling landmines INCREDIBLY powerful at that stage of the game. As far as the positioning goes, Scarlett lured Bomber into the first landmine with clever muta micro (though perhaps this kind of tactic looks a bit obvious sometimes) and used brilliant positioning to run Bomber over that ramp for the final blast. No luck there, no happy accidents. While I honestly don't think that Bomber and Scarlett played at the absolute highest level mechanically and made several obvious mistakes throughout the game, it was important to note the incredible decision making made at several instances of the game. It's a little over-hyped, I agree, but there's still a lot of gold in the decision making involved here, and very little of it was a "coinflip" or "gimmick" factor. I suggest taking a look at the replay yourself and really analyzing the decisions each player made and how they dealt with specific problems. Avoid coming to conclusions like "I guess Scarlett just made a mistake" or "Bomber just forgot to remake SCVs"; those are silly conclusions and will only lead you to dead ends in your learning. Good luck, have fun, and remember that there's always something to learn from watching a pro game (unless it's a hyvaa game :p)! | ||
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Chulak
South Africa3 Posts
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IcedSilver
United States9 Posts
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Cluster
Sweden125 Posts
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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idkfa
United States77 Posts
The utility of burrowed banelings cannot be understated; Man it's hard to point out the need for corrections without seeming pedantic. | ||
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Jer99
Canada8160 Posts
On January 12 2014 11:23 idkfa wrote: From the article: Man it's hard to point out the need for corrections without seeming pedantic. thank you | ||
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xtorn
4067 Posts
On January 06 2014 02:43 Dontkillme wrote: This game made me mad as a few burrowed banelings aka luck determined the win for Scarlett, needless to say it was a pretty good game i beg to differ -Scarlett never relies on luck, she makes her own luck so to speak - and that is why she is a world class player. She won because of her awesome decision making. She understands how the game develops and she adapts instantly - she won because of her versatility. She never does anything useless, she didn't research burrow early thinking " this may come in handy later" - only when she was absolutely convinced it would help. She's calculated, precise, never does anything randomly and that's why she wins game after game. Last but not least , on top of that precision and versatility that she has, we must consider what's probably her most lethal weapon - her mind games. She played with Bomber's mind in a way that reminded me of Star Wars jedi knights, lol. And that's where she simply shines and has the edge that few other players in the world have. | ||
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