[H] TvP how can i win this? - Page 2

On April 23 2012 13:14 pimsc2 wrote:
Despite the protoss being horrible and played really worst than you, you lose because playing bio can't allow little errors like you made. If you want a more powerful & forgiving TvP style, try Lynna's mech, Hammer 1-1-1, or Warden's Deathball. You'll never be annoyed again by the protoss stupid deathball. So I checked your replay and took a lot of screenshots :


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• Being agressive & not capitalizing on the benefits
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First you didn't produced SCV non stop so I consider your agressive push being very close to all in. Why the fuck would you 1 rax expo if you don't produce SCV constantly ? He has 10 more probes than you at the beginning. Anyway that's not my point.

7:48 • When you were attacking, 31 probes vs 27 SCVs :


8:46 • You made a good amount of damage, 23 probes vs 30 SCVs :


10:02 • But after that, you forget to produce SCVs, so he catches up very quickly, 32 probes vs 33 SCVs :


RESULT : You're agressive, do damage, but don't gain any advantage of that.
LESSON : it doesn't make sense to be agressive and if you don't macro at home at the same time.


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• Useless drops & not capitalizing on the positionning
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You drop his main with half of your force.


When he brings his whole army, you continue to attack with half of your army,
while the other half do nothing. If you look at his expansion at the same time :



Free colossus snipe and free nexus snipe…

RESULT : You engage 100% of his army with 50% of your army = bad trade, pointless drop.
LESSON : When you drop, be ready to move with your main force if he brings everything.


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• Bad timings
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What is a timing ? Just after an important upgrade is finished, you army is a lot stronger
than one second before, and won't be any stronger until the next upgrade finishes in a few minutes.
So you have to attack at the right moment and avoid engagements otherwise. Examples :

You engage without +1 armor & shields and trade somewhat equally..


After, you engage just before +3 weapons & +2 armor.


This is the horrible result :


You engage just before having ghosts & energy upgrade and you're stormed :


RESULT : You attack at the weakest timings you could imagine.
LESSON : By delaying the engagements 10 to 20 seconds, you'll trade your units FAR MORE efficiently.
TO DO : Hotkey your engineering bays and check them before engaging.


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• Bad macro
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Your macro is poor for a diamond player. You really want to improve this.

12:52 • 1-1 is finished and your armory too.


14:46 • You stay on 1 engineering bay and you waited 2 entire minutes before starting +2 attack


21 minutes, you only have 5 barracks despite having 3 bases, all with tech lab.

It means 5 units by production cycle. You're lucky the protoss only made 5 gates the entire game otherwise
you would have lost since a long time.

22:26 • Here you have a saturated main since a few minutes :


25:09 • You transfer only when you realize they're idle… It's really too late.


28:38 • The last big fight, SCV count : 67


They're toasted by colossi fire


Result, only 37 remaining scvs vs 55, you lost 30 scvs and you never remade them…


RESULT : Your blind agressive bio style greatly penalizes your macro.
LESSON : Focus on your macro, upgrades, economy & production rather than pushing.


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• Debrief
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Overall you played equally if not far better than the protoss who really sucked. But as you know, playing bio requires perfection. Great positinning, great upgrades, great army control, great macro. If you still want to play this style, you may get angry and rage a lot to protoss players because you need to perform really better than them at equal leagues. As your understanding of TvP bio isn't so great, I recommand you to try other TvP styles like Hammer, Lynna or Warden bio-mech play that may fit a lot more to you and that a lot of us are using with great success. Anyway good luck in your future TvP games.