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Foyercraft
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 12:45:00
November 16 2011 10:05 GMT
#1
Hi TL, we are a group of 3 italians guys, that play SC2 since beta.
This summer we started a new Youtube Italian Channel, where we are, actually, casting SC2 matches and some Italian Tournaments and/or Events.

Recently we saw on Liquipedia that there wasn't an italian page for each race strategy, so we say: "Hey! Why don`t we start working on it? We can do it!!".

For now we only did/translated a few guides, but more are incoming.
I post here our work so you can see it and feedback (if you are italian et simila).
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Strategia_Protoss
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Strategia_Zerg

ps: I hope this is the right place to post this
pps: I edit this post to let you know future guides
ppps: sorry for bad English
pppps: if you want see more stuff we have created find us on Youtube.

Edit!: we are reciving some help for traslation, more guides coming soon.

Traslated for italian SC2 player:
Ciao TL, siamo un gruppo di 3 amici italiani, che giocano a Starcraft 2 fin dalla beta.
Questa estate abbiamo iniziato un nuovo canale di Youtube, dove castiamo replay di SC2 e anche alcuni tornei italiani e/o altri eventi.

Recentemente abbiamo visto che su Liquipedia non c`era una pagina delle strategie per ogni razza in italiano, cosi` ci siamo detti:" LO FACCIAMO NOI!"

Per ora non abbiamo tradotto granche`, se non qualche guida, ma molte sono gia` in traduzione.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Strategia_Protoss
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Strategia_Zerg

Foyecraft Team (Desa, Foyerback, Dartilus)
Italian's do it worst!
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
November 16 2011 10:14 GMT
#2
Best of luck to you, more languages available is always a good thing. Hopefully some Italian-speaking volunteers come help you out!
Foyercraft
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy8 Posts
November 16 2011 10:16 GMT
#3
Hope so, all the help would be awesome.
Italian's do it worst!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
November 16 2011 10:19 GMT
#4
I wish more countries in Europe were civilized enough to have perfect english around the age 15 like Sweden.

GJ anyway

User was temp banned for this post.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
November 16 2011 10:23 GMT
#5
What exactly about that makes us more civilized? I don't get it...

schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
November 16 2011 10:33 GMT
#6
On November 16 2011 19:19 Zoler wrote:
I wish more countries in Europe were civilized enough to have perfect english around the age 15 like Sweden.

GJ anyway


:D
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Assaulter
Profile Joined December 2010
Lithuania324 Posts
November 16 2011 10:35 GMT
#7
On November 16 2011 19:19 Zoler wrote:
I wish more countries in Europe were civilized enough to have perfect english around the age 15 like Sweden.

GJ anyway

Haha, I'm 15 and have really good english. And I'm from Lithuania... all you have to do is chill on the internet and English is easy to learn.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
November 16 2011 10:36 GMT
#8
On November 16 2011 19:23 nam nam wrote:
What exactly about that makes us more civilized? I don't get it...



In the way it's going right now in not that many years english will probably be even more the main language all over the world.

Just a matter of time.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
November 16 2011 10:40 GMT
#9
until China gets us all!

Nihao Ma, Mr Ching...


PS: this thread already drifts in the wrong direction oO
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Fealthas
Profile Joined May 2011
607 Posts
November 16 2011 10:41 GMT
#10
Wow nice!
Though one of the problems is the lack of content on the Liquipedia.
g1rg10
Profile Joined October 2007
Italy186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 10:47:26
November 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#11
On November 16 2011 19:19 Zoler wrote:
I wish more countries in Europe were civilized enough to have perfect english around the age 15 like Sweden.

GJ anyway


It's Italy you're talking about, where most of the people can't even speak their own language.
GL guys
Rybaia
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy213 Posts
November 16 2011 10:45 GMT
#12
On November 16 2011 19:42 g1rg10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 19:19 Zoler wrote:
I wish more countries in Europe were civilized enough to have perfect english around the age 15 like Sweden.

GJ anyway


It's Italy you're talking about, where most of the people can't even speak their own language.

Unfortunately this is true.
<3 Foyercraft
Foyercraft
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy8 Posts
November 16 2011 10:47 GMT
#13
On November 16 2011 19:40 schaf wrote:
PS: this thread already drifts in the wrong direction oO


That was the starting idea...
Italian's do it worst!
Vendemmia
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy198 Posts
November 16 2011 10:48 GMT
#14
the youtube channel is?
Foyercraft
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy8 Posts
November 16 2011 10:49 GMT
#15
Search Foyercraft on Youtube
Italian's do it worst!
andycz
Profile Joined September 2011
288 Posts
November 16 2011 10:55 GMT
#16
On November 16 2011 19:19 Zoler wrote:
I wish more countries in Europe were civilized enough to have perfect english around the age 15 like Sweden.

GJ anyway

It's okay, I'd rather be an uncivilized barbarian than an average brainwashed, politically correct, multiculturalistic Swede living in a soon-to-crash socialistic police state.
@OP: gj keep it up.
Always looking for practice partners. EU: andy.1535
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
November 16 2011 10:59 GMT
#17
On November 16 2011 19:19 Zoler wrote:
I wish more countries in Europe were civilized enough to have perfect english around the age 15 like Sweden.

GJ anyway

US must be the most civilized country in the world. Everyone has percent English by the age of 10. And we don't have weird language quirks like calling straws "slurpy tubes".
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Hetz
Profile Joined September 2010
196 Posts
November 16 2011 11:11 GMT
#18
Doesn't Italy has more urgent problems to work on?


Gantritor
Profile Joined January 2011
Italy112 Posts
November 16 2011 11:15 GMT
#19
On November 16 2011 19:19 Zoler wrote:
I wish more countries in Europe were civilized enough to have perfect english around the age 15 like Sweden.

GJ anyway


I wish that more countries in Europe were civilized enough so that their citizens do not need to brag about their supposed superiority. Even if it is true that few people in Italy speaks English, that doesn't allow you to pretend to be better. If we are in running, well, I can say that I would speak English perfectly too if I were born in a country which has the same number of inhabitants than an Italian city.
Gantritor
Profile Joined January 2011
Italy112 Posts
November 16 2011 11:16 GMT
#20
On November 16 2011 19:59 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 19:19 Zoler wrote:
I wish more countries in Europe were civilized enough to have perfect english around the age 15 like Sweden.

GJ anyway

US must be the most civilized country in the world. Everyone has percent English by the age of 10. And we don't have weird language quirks like calling straws "slurpy tubes".


I lol'd.
InVerno
Profile Joined May 2011
258 Posts
November 16 2011 13:07 GMT
#21
I thought it was a lack of Italian culture, attack the person and not what he does when you do not have arguments.
But I see that even in sweden it works great, even with only 15years old.

GJ Foyercraft <3
lukasdesign
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland93 Posts
November 16 2011 15:32 GMT
#22
Well, Italy gave us Espresso, Pizza, Lasagne, Ducati, Pagani Zonda, Ferrari, Da Vinci, Zegna, Verdi, Rossini and Del Piero...

and Sweden? Ikea, H&M and an insanely stinky fish in tin cans...well you guys better learn english..:-)

Foyercraft
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 18:59:05
November 16 2011 18:58 GMT
#23
On November 17 2011 00:32 lukasdesign wrote:
Well, Italy gave us Espresso, Pizza, Lasagne, Ducati, Pagani Zonda, Ferrari, Da Vinci, Zegna, Verdi, Rossini and Del Piero...

and Sweden? Ikea, H&M and an insanely stinky fish in tin cans...well you guys better learn english..:-)



Lol!
Don't forget Italy gave, to the world, Foyercraft Team for italian's cast.
Italian's do it worst!
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
November 16 2011 19:08 GMT
#24
Just be careful. Many strategies are outdated.
I am Latedi.
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
November 16 2011 19:20 GMT
#25
On November 16 2011 20:11 Hetz wrote:
Doesn't Italy has more urgent problems to work on?




Working on it. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/world/europe/monti-forms-new-italian-government.html?_r=1&hp
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
November 16 2011 19:39 GMT
#26
Gj, I think it'd feel weird to hear an Italian cast tho, some units names are just too long or awkward, already used to the English ones :p
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
November 16 2011 21:02 GMT
#27
Make sure to categorize all articles as Italian translations!
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
eusoc
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy82 Posts
November 17 2011 09:24 GMT
#28
NIce... though I told Inverno we could have done it before by ourselves... maybe we can add some build I already translated from TL, let me know

Foyercraft
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy8 Posts
November 17 2011 11:56 GMT
#29
On November 17 2011 18:24 eusoc wrote:
NIce... though I told Inverno we could have done it before by ourselves... maybe we can add some build I already translated from TL, let me know


That would be awesome.
Send me a PM so we can organize.
Italian's do it worst!
SugaredZeon
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 10:12:09
January 04 2012 10:11 GMT
#30
By now I am taking care of some text parts, as Foyercraft already knows, as long as my schedule is open. There are some editing features which I cannot still exploit: someone should be coaching me...I hope for free :D Jokes apart, I mostly worked on correcting the previous italian parts (which were a little weird, actually) and I "translated" for real just some few missing parts (and there were still fractions of articles in English within the italian articles themselves...work left uncompleted, I suppose?). By now all italian articles in Liquipedia should be 100% in Italian. I just have to guess if it is not the case of changing the left column in the unit info section (I mean, by translating words as sight, range ASO) but too many italian people are accustomed to using SC gaming terms in English: actually, translating/not translating some terms may appear to be one of the most controversial aspects of the LIP-Liquipedia Italian Project (that's the way I named it lol...coincidentally, it is also the name of the most important Italian Language corpus). We may end up making a (probably) partially subjective selection between terms which are more used in English than in Italian, since they have got no clear-cut distinction within the italian gaming community.

Despite my English, I hope you get the point since it is a very delicate matter!
People start playing Sc2 twice: when they first play the game and when they get to Master League
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
January 04 2012 10:44 GMT
#31
On December 15 2011 22:15 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 12:51 endy wrote:
Will Liquipedia implement a multi-language feature like Wikipedia ?

We have decided to (from now on) disallow translations of articles in Wikipedia. Existing articles will remain, but new ones will be deleted. We have done this because we do not have a team of editors and reviewers for each language, TL is English Only in the first place, and the burn-out rate of translators is approximately 103% (and some more reasons that I don't feel like typing out). There will be a full post made eventually, hopefully before Christmas, about what you can do if you want to make translations.

Quoted from this post: Liquipedia Feedback Thread
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
January 04 2012 11:28 GMT
#32
Problem with Liquipedia is that most of the stuff there is heavily outdated. Adding more languages will probably just make that an even bigger issue.
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