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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 16:11:05
January 28 2011 17:25 GMT
#1
Hello everyone,

Recently, I've had a lesson with InControl from team Eg and Gosucoaching. The lesson went fantastically well, and luckily, I recorded it! So it's beena while before I figured out that own3d.tv has a very generous file size limit for their uploads, as well as easy share. So I've uploaded the video to both of those websites. I have already posted the uploaded file in to Khaladas' great thread PvZ InControl Coaching, but I've put it on Own3d.tv for easier viewing, and I felt this might deserve its own thread for more people to see this.

The lesson focuses on PvT, expansion timings, unit composition,etc. Basically, I used to 4 gate in PvT (no other match-up), and I really didn't like that. If you want to know, I'm in High Platinum (So that's the skill level of the lesson). So basically this went over all the little intricacies of this PvT style, which is essentially a 2 gate robo expand in to 4 gate way robo stargate. Needless to say my win rate in PvT has shot up!

So without further ado, and here all the links:

own3d.tv VOD

Easy Share Link (Sorry, but this is theonly website with big enough file capacity)

Khaladas' Mediafire link (Thanks)

Replay Pack

Once again, thanks InControl for the help, and thanks for permission on letting me post this. It's a great service to the the community.

Mods: I didn't know what to label this, so I'll just label it as Discussion, as people will probably discuss the lesson in this thread.

EDIT: Adding that I'm in Platinum so people know the skill level of the lesson. Added Mediafire link.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
January 28 2011 17:27 GMT
#2
sweet thanks, I love these things. I always like taking these types of lessons and comparing the builds given to similar builds of other top players and seeing the stylistic differences. I've got my own builds but can always learn from shit like this.
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
January 28 2011 17:30 GMT
#3
thanks YO
if play random i can't call any race imba?
dark fury
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden426 Posts
January 28 2011 17:50 GMT
#4
big thumbs up for sharing this, and kudos to InControl for giving his approval.

i found this to be pretty damn helpful, altough i think incontrol should have pointed out that your micro/positioning was pretty sloppy during the major engagements. you didnt use guardian sheild and most of your zealots where blocked behind your stalker concave. I noticed it mainly because this is a mistake i make too often myself wich sometimes results in me losing a battle that i could and should have won with some better micro/positioning.
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
January 28 2011 17:59 GMT
#5
thanks....PvT is getting iffy for me...needed this video
dark fury
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden426 Posts
January 28 2011 18:03 GMT
#6
Whenever i hear geoffs voice, i want to hug him. He such a humgle guy.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
January 28 2011 18:04 GMT
#7
thanks for sharing, much appreciated

and as always thanks to inc for allowing all these lessons to be released

'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
onymous
Profile Joined November 2010
United States67 Posts
January 28 2011 19:00 GMT
#8
L1F3, you are a gentleman and a scholar.
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
January 28 2011 20:01 GMT
#9
PvT is by far my most difficult matchup. I've only watched the first half hour so far, and I already feel l've gotten a lot out of it. Thanks so much for sharing your lesson with us, and thanks to InControl for being such an outstanding member of the community and supporting the sharing of his lessons!
The frumious Bandersnatch
murkk
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada154 Posts
January 28 2011 21:18 GMT
#10
InControl is making P imba. He needs to be nerfed.
Chemist391
Profile Joined October 2010
United States368 Posts
January 28 2011 21:41 GMT
#11
"With my cold black eyes."

So glad I caught that SotG reference.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 28 2011 23:55 GMT
#12
Sorry bout that, the other Khaladas one's are in Strategy so I thought these would be placed here as well. Anyway, I uploaded a replay pack, so that people can see the gam'e being played out if they want to.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 03:18:49
January 29 2011 02:34 GMT
#13
We must have missed them. As these become more frequent they cannot all be in the Strategy section without some sort of organizational thread.

We'll get back to you about how these will be handled, for now it can stay in Strategy.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 29 2011 04:34 GMT
#14
Oh well, more people will be able to see it in Strategy I think.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
January 29 2011 05:01 GMT
#15
Thanks for these! My PvT has taken a bit of a nosedive, so any tips are appreciated.
"What I'm sayin' is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know we don't know." | SC2: NoiSe.730 | LoL: Galladiator
Predateur
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada79 Posts
January 29 2011 05:20 GMT
#16
Good lesson from inControl but I prefered his strategy vs zerg, I prefer dt harass into ht for pvt
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 29 2011 05:22 GMT
#17
a sticky thread of coaching sessions would be a good idea imo
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
January 29 2011 05:32 GMT
#18
always nice to see incontrol coaching sessions sice they are always very informative and helpful.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
January 29 2011 06:05 GMT
#19
Thank you so much for this. The only matchup anyone is ever talking about right now is PvZ and it is seriously pissing me off as PvT is way cooler
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 29 2011 06:56 GMT
#20
These are very nice, thank you for your thoughtfulness
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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