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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 09 2020 06:59 GMT
#21
On July 09 2020 13:36 Alejandrisha wrote:
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On March 07 2010 08:46 TadH wrote:
Well as a Zerg player I find it extremely frustrating to have my army mid-game raped by 2 immortals with a few other units mixed in. Usually vs P I`ll try a timing push with lingséroaches, because usually if they over extend and expand you can just win, but it seems to me that roaches having +2 armor really don`t stand a chance (I hear immortals are a `hard`counter to roaches) So anyway, once my attack fails, they usually just counter with the 2|3 immortals they have and rape me with zeals etc, I know people say omg mutas pwn immortals, but realistically, mutalisks take a lot more time to mass and become effective, I mean if I save gas I might have 5-6 mutalisks, and he can just outmass sentrys and stalkers etc to counter that, and I`ll also be sacraficing roaches or hydras to save on gas.

Basically,what I would like advice on is this; how do you balance the early units to save for gas to be prepared for immortals or colossus should they tech to it?
(I'm ranked 1 in silver division 5)


this seems to be the real problem. your go-to strat on ladder shouldn't be a kill move or you are not going to get better. i would recommend more macro-oriented openers where you barely have enough drones and units to hold the push. some replays would be nice, too.

A good build can get you very high if played properly, this is not GSL but ladder. The issue may be that the build isn't as strong or played as clear as it needs to be. Which we cannot say without seing it being played
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 09 2020 09:50 GMT
#22
On July 09 2020 15:59 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 13:36 Alejandrisha wrote:
On March 07 2010 08:46 TadH wrote:
Well as a Zerg player I find it extremely frustrating to have my army mid-game raped by 2 immortals with a few other units mixed in. Usually vs P I`ll try a timing push with lingséroaches, because usually if they over extend and expand you can just win, but it seems to me that roaches having +2 armor really don`t stand a chance (I hear immortals are a `hard`counter to roaches) So anyway, once my attack fails, they usually just counter with the 2|3 immortals they have and rape me with zeals etc, I know people say omg mutas pwn immortals, but realistically, mutalisks take a lot more time to mass and become effective, I mean if I save gas I might have 5-6 mutalisks, and he can just outmass sentrys and stalkers etc to counter that, and I`ll also be sacraficing roaches or hydras to save on gas.

Basically,what I would like advice on is this; how do you balance the early units to save for gas to be prepared for immortals or colossus should they tech to it?
(I'm ranked 1 in silver division 5)


this seems to be the real problem. your go-to strat on ladder shouldn't be a kill move or you are not going to get better. i would recommend more macro-oriented openers where you barely have enough drones and units to hold the push. some replays would be nice, too.

A good build can get you very high if played properly, this is not GSL but ladder. The issue may be that the build isn't as strong or played as clear as it needs to be. Which we cannot say without seing it being played

yeah you can get points but are you improving? you should always look to boom boom boom econ if you are trying to get better. it's good to have knowledge of timing attack but when you are just playing it should be about working mechanics, understanding matchups and game states. but everyone chooses their own ladder experience
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Sr18
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Netherlands1141 Posts
July 09 2020 10:22 GMT
#23
And then suddenly you realise that the op is from early WOL.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-09 17:16:11
July 09 2020 17:15 GMT
#24
On July 09 2020 19:22 Sr18 wrote:
And then suddenly you realise that the op is from early WOL.

wowowowo facepalmmmmmm
you can even tell the post is from a different era from the casual use of the word 'rape.' so many red flags i did not see lol
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