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Lx VS SumaDream

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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 20:53:11
February 14 2009 20:52 GMT
#1
Point of Emphasis: Sumadream plays this map tvp about as perfectly as you can.. want you guys to see his execution and game development. Lx on the other hand makes this fairly close with some great patience and nice execution of his own.. enjoy!

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reps can be found here: http://sc.wfgame.com/rep/3rdcnvskor.rar
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 14 2009 20:57 GMT
#2
I would love to know who this terran is, it's not the sumadream from the first china vs korea cw, it's not even the sumadream who beat super and rushgoon from this same clan war.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51698 Posts
February 14 2009 21:47 GMT
#3
discussion at the pro-team house:
b-teamer: yo a-teamer i have a game on medusa vs a protoss can you play for me
a-teamer: sure
a-teamer: actually s-class terran can you play instead?
s-class: yes, even though medusa blows, i will rape this protoss.
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F91
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand77 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 22:34:38
February 14 2009 22:34 GMT
#4
lol flash smurfing?
fong0r is a infested terran in disguise
abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 23:00:45
February 14 2009 22:52 GMT
#5
Look at the mine vs Jaystar. Hahaha, I feel bad for him.. Almost.

He has really bad SCV control though. Lots of idling SCVs in most games. Looks like a pretty damn good player though.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 15 2009 00:21 GMT
#6
On February 15 2009 05:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I would love to know who this terran is, it's not the sumadream from the first china vs korea cw, it's not even the sumadream who beat super and rushgoon from this same clan war.


o.o so the Koreans fielded different players under the same nick/identity?
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 15 2009 03:02 GMT
#7
Sumadream hotkeys his CC at the start differently in this game, however his other unit + building hotkeys remain the same. It's much more likely that it's the same sumadream rather than a smurf. I am a retard.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
February 15 2009 04:27 GMT
#8
Very good game. Thought Legend had it after he broke contain. Needed to get that 5th up faster.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 15 2009 08:48 GMT
#9
should be "chinese former pro" imo
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
February 15 2009 09:42 GMT
#10
nice game
strong terran
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
February 15 2009 09:51 GMT
#11
It was a good game but I can't see a pro Terran playing Flash style fast 3 base but forgetting to get a science facility until 15 minutes in.

This guy played the same type of aggressive expansion style every match. Beyond this upgrade mishap, I was quite impressed overall.
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amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
February 15 2009 10:06 GMT
#12
maybe it is flash .. who cares :D
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
February 15 2009 11:14 GMT
#13
On February 15 2009 09:21 jwd241224 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 05:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I would love to know who this terran is, it's not the sumadream from the first china vs korea cw, it's not even the sumadream who beat super and rushgoon from this same clan war.


o.o so the Koreans fielded different players under the same nick/identity?

they have a history of this sort of thing, its not unusual.
in sandlot, firefist played in place of kosiro[shield], then the following week eun[fou] played in place of nal_paris.

also if you jump further back in time and look up the oG) controversies
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 15 2009 11:33 GMT
#14
On February 15 2009 17:48 thedeadhaji wrote:
should be "chinese former pro" imo

former korean pro
hes still a chinese pro
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 15 2009 15:53 GMT
#15
Lx is sexy but this t is beastly
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
February 16 2009 00:12 GMT
#16
I believe this terran is said to be Aplus[GsP] not 100% sure but a worthy choice ^^
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
February 16 2009 10:03 GMT
#17
On February 16 2009 09:12 EffOrt wrote:
I believe this terran is said to be Aplus[GsP] not 100% sure but a worthy choice ^^

its not -_-

ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
February 16 2009 10:14 GMT
#18
On February 15 2009 20:14 SoMuchBetter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 09:21 jwd241224 wrote:
On February 15 2009 05:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I would love to know who this terran is, it's not the sumadream from the first china vs korea cw, it's not even the sumadream who beat super and rushgoon from this same clan war.


o.o so the Koreans fielded different players under the same nick/identity?

they have a history of this sort of thing, its not unusual.
in sandlot, firefist played in place of kosiro[shield], then the following week eun[fou] played in place of nal_paris.

also if you jump further back in time and look up the oG) controversies

Its really common

You will see someone filling in for someone else usually in korean clan wars a lot
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 16 2009 19:32 GMT
#19
so first place BrainClan = B+ ICCUP with 50% record and hundredss of games o.O
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 21:18:23
February 16 2009 20:56 GMT
#20
On February 17 2009 04:32 EtherealDeath wrote:
so first place BrainClan = B+ ICCUP with 50% record and hundredss of games o.O


But CLEARLY there is an enormous difference between a korean with 600 games at B+ vs 100% Koreans and who is capable of all-killing the entire Chinese lineup versus say Androide, 80-20 B+. I looked at Sumadream's matchlist on ICCUP and he got his A- literally 21 pages ago

Especially since the Chinese beat Koreans who are "better" than Sumadream in the previous clanwars....and if Sumadream is #1 amateur or w/e then does that mean everyone above him on ICCUP is better? I doubt it.
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