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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 01 2008 16:04 GMT
#1
Point of Emphasis: Nony plays against the American Zerg Chosen. The replays for the entire group should be released soon. This game features incredible pressure by the zerg player with 5 even 6 hatchery hydralisk pumping. The difference from this and other noobs however, he micros incredibly well. Nony responds by critically upgrading the templar energy which ends up being his saving grace in more than just a few battles.

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Awesome counter at the end. I think the zerg could have pushed this over but began to tech and it slowed that stream of hydras.. cant say I blame him. He was "all-in" had he not teched to something.. or tried at least.
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
March 01 2008 17:04 GMT
#2
that was intense!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 01 2008 17:45 GMT
#3
i'll just clarify for the newbs that the +energy for HT's is not so that i can stock up 250 energy for HT's, but so that the HT's start with 62.5 energy instead of 50. so every time you see a HT storm with 75-87 energy, i wouldnt have been able to cast a storm at the time without the upgrade. and because of chosen's strat, that's pretty much every storm.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
March 01 2008 17:53 GMT
#4
stubborn zerg
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 01 2008 17:56 GMT
#5
On March 02 2008 02:45 NonY[rC] wrote:
i'll just clarify for the newbs that the +energy for HT's is not so that i can stock up 250 energy for HT's, but so that the HT's start with 62.5 energy instead of 50. so every time you see a HT storm with 75-87 energy, i wouldnt have been able to cast a storm at the time without the upgrade. and because of chosen's strat, that's pretty much every storm.


Yeah, this is the point I meant. But this is a HUGE display of why that upgrade is so crucial. Almost deserves a comment in the strat forum.. I think its VERY important.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
March 01 2008 18:27 GMT
#6
Khaydarin amulet is a saving grace for newborn templars. Also I think NonY could've done much better not losing 2 or 3 valid (75+ energy) HT to hydra without getting a storm off. It was in a crucial moment and made this game really tense.

Nevertheless, 6 hatch hydra before lair? I'm downright amazed.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-01 19:00:13
March 01 2008 18:56 GMT
#7
i did miss some opportunities, partly because i was caught off guard and just disorganized in general, but also partly because we werent using chaoslauncher. playing on LAN latency converts directly into faster storming. any experienced toss player knows there are many storms that are cast on bnet that never actually happen as the templar dies right after the command is given. on the flip side for the zerg, his hydras are caught under the storm a split second longer due to the latency when he gives the move command. but when the zerg snipes HT by running in and targeting them, latency is not an issue, so zerg has that advantage there. in other words, he couldnt snipe a split second faster on LAN, but i could storm a split second faster before dying on LAN.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
AnWh
Profile Joined April 2004
Sweden220 Posts
March 01 2008 19:20 GMT
#8
heh i've been playing this game with mainly protoss for ~6 years and i had no idea about the 62.5 energy ht thing.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
March 01 2008 19:55 GMT
#9
I actually remember Nony mentioning that +energy upgrade for HTs in one of his FPVODs some time ago.

Anyway, nice and intense game.
We make signature, then defense it.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
March 01 2008 19:56 GMT
#10
They start with 1/4th of full mana .
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 01 2008 20:12 GMT
#11
Great Game!
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I thought Chosen could have won at the ~11minute mark but he forgot a group of hydras to bring with him ! Nonetheless he's improved so much over the past year hehe
ButterCake
Profile Joined November 2005
Thailand192 Posts
March 01 2008 22:56 GMT
#12
this is very entertaining.
thx
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
March 03 2008 01:11 GMT
#13
On March 02 2008 04:20 AnWh wrote:
heh i've been playing this game with mainly protoss for ~6 years and i had no idea about the 62.5 energy ht thing.


me2 ;o
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
March 05 2008 16:21 GMT
#14
This was an incredible game to watch. GGs both players.
Chains none
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
April 02 2008 05:31 GMT
#15
soooo many hydras... amazing game by nony as usual
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