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ok so i thought that TSL1 was too short. players like mondragon and idra got knocked out really fast, and we didn't get to see many of their games. maybe use the "swiss system" that is used in chess, instead of the knockout?
for example: there was 49 games in the TSL from the round of 16 onwards. if you did a swiss system with a BO1 in each round, you could have 4 rounds and 32 games, and a more balanced way of measuring everyone's skill. mondragon would get 4 games with bo1, and 10 games with bo3, instead of the 2 games that he got. not that i like mondragon, but i think lots of other people do 
a BO3 in each round would be an average of 80 games in total.
also with swiss system, the players are more closely matched, so it should give more spectacular games.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
Yes it was short and TSL will probably be a little more stretched out, but that's not exactly a good reason to switch to the Swiss system.
Elimination tournaments are established for a good reason for this kind of thing. It adds tons of excitement. It's also what everyone is used to.
I can tell you right now that it's not going to happen.
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Swiss system would be very good.
The main reason why it is not used for sports is because of the amount of room needed to organize the event.
This is not the case for starcraft and therefor perfect!
It simply lower the variance which means less stress and better games.
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thedeadhaji
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one reason 90% of large scale foreign tournaments fail is because they span so many months that the viewers lose interest rapidly.
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Belgium6771 Posts
On June 07 2008 22:58 thedeadhaji wrote:
one reason 90% of large scale foreign tournaments fail is because they span so many months that the viewers lose interest rapidly.
Yes a lot of people said their interest was fading towards the end so this TSL's length was pretty much the maximum amount imo
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On June 07 2008 22:58 thedeadhaji wrote:
one reason 90% of large scale foreign tournaments fail is because they span so many months that the viewers lose interest rapidly.
Yeah. I think there's a lot more pressure involved when you know you're one loss away from elimination too.
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Germany1302 Posts
Stretch out = do it
swiss system = never
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i would have liked to see a BO7 for the finals =p
if you had wanted another week of play, maybe have a losers bracket as well
actually that might add 2 weeks..
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In my opinion the length was very good. I don't agree with it being too short.
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On June 08 2008 00:29 Chosi wrote:
Stretch out = do it
what, don't stetch it out.
to be honest, the tourney lost some steam during the last two weeks when it was just 1 match a day.
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WB/LB bracket would make it longer and more fair imo
But the major issue i had was during the ro32, sure audio streams were nice but video would own 
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It would drag out too long. Bo is good enough.
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An online tournament as long and big as TSL definantly does NOT need to be stretched out. The intrest could have been alot higher if you choosed a more compact format. There was way too much dead time and waiting in the first TSL for my liking.
edit: oh and thanks for the birthday logo :>
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I do believe the Swiss system would extend the whole thing far too much, too many people would lose interest.
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bo5 semi finals next time imo
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
semis were already bo5 this season
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I think the length was very good. It doesn't need to be too long or people lose interest. Either way, I think more TSLs are better than longer ones.
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On June 08 2008 09:35 fight_or_flight wrote:
I think the length was very good. It doesn't need to be too long or people lose interest. Either way, I think more TSLs are better than longer ones.
I agree... I think it was the perfect length... Too long = lose interest
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I liked the length, but wouldn't mind if it was a tad bit longer. It's a breath of fresh air when the OSL/MSL drag out for what feels like forever.
Maybe another week for a couple stages, but anymore than that? No thanks.
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The point with single elimination is, that it is very easy to understand, and see whos facing who, and how the standings are.
Not the fairest, but the easiest from organisation and for the viewers.
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