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Last Edited: 2008-04-27 15:00:00
April 26 2008 15:47 GMT
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#31 [image loading] [image loading] ScT-HoRRoR < Bo3 > #34 [image loading] [image loading] Dunaj

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ScT-HoRRoR > Dunaj @ Longinus II
ScT-HoRRoR > Dunaj @ Blue Storm

Interview with ScT-HoRRoR
1. Congratulations on your win! Did you expect to win?
I was very unsure about the match. I didn't play since the TSL has ended but then I became an email about my successful qualification for the TSL. I trained like 4 hours to get back from my short inactivity. But i didnt think that it was enough train. After all I was a bit lucky with his builds and so I won the bo3.

2. How did you practice for the Longinus game, and how did it play out?
As I said I hadn't much time to train anything special but Longinus is around for a long time and I played like 200 and more games on it. So I just had to refresh my speed and standarts.

3. Did your win in the first game influence your play in the second?
I played more confident and relaxed. I was a bit lucky that he played an offgate because I can play better vs such a strat than vs a macroprotoss on bluestorm. I often underestimate the ramps and lose the games for this reason.

4. Who have you been practicing with to prepare for these games?
My clanmates.

5. You used quite similiar builds in both the games, was this because of the maps or the opponent? Was it your plan to use the same strategy twice to throw him off guard or did just work out that way?
I like vultures very much and I'm able to control them well so I'm playing them quite often. Both times the maps in combination with my opponents tactics were deciding to play that tactic. I haven't seen this floating fax by another player so I though he might not know that tactic and his base was unguarded because of his offgate.



#17 [image loading] [image loading] Skew[Media] < Bo3 > #48 [image loading] [image loading] Legionnaire

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Skew[Media] > Legionnaire @ Longinus II
Skew[Media] < Legionnaire @ Blue Storm
Skew[Media] < Legionnaire @ Zodiac

Interview with Legionnaire
1. Congratulations on your win! Did you expect to win?
Until yesterday I didn't expect to win at all. Then I found a nice build on Blue Storm (thx nony) And I practiced that vs a couple of good T's so I was happy with that. I was fairly happy with Longinus map, and I really should have changed my build after we had to regame [there was a disc game 1 after 5 minutes with no major advantage] and he'd seen how awesome my start was but that will teach me a lesson.

Game 3 I wasn't planning on going reavers but I knew it would work. You can always rely on the trusty reavers. So yeah, I was sort of 50/50 on whether i would win or not. Fortunately he was tired and pretty much handed me the match when he quit the third one.

2. How did you practice for the Longinus game, and how did it play out?
Yeah I practiced the most for Longinus, mainly because I needed to improve my macro a lot. (read above for more info on how it played). I saw he hadn't CC'd either and I just did nothing, I think if I had my zeal and goon at my base instead of at my 2nd exp I would have been fine but oh well. 1 and 3 were meant to just be pure macro builds, but it didn't turn out like that.

3. Did your win in the first game influence your play in the second?
No. My bluestorm build had worked well in practice so it didn't change at all.

4. How did you feel going into the deciding game? When did you know you had won?
Same as any other game, there was no more pressure or anything. I knew I'd won when he left the game midway through. He was tired or upset or something.

5. Who have you been practicing with to prepare for these games?
I didn't know the maps at all, so most of my early prac was just looking at reps to see what protoss does, and to see what terran do (much more important). Then when i had a few vague ideas played a bit with some terrans like artosis and assem, but mostly on ICCUP vs random terrans. Playing lots fo different people is good, as they all do something different which reminds you what to look out for.



#18 [image loading] [image loading] RoX.ALF < Bo3 > #47 [image loading] [image loading] fuSion.spx

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fuSion.spx > RoX.ALF @ Longinus II
fuSion.spx < RoX.ALF @ Blue Storm
fuSion.spx < RoX.ALF @ Zodiac

Interview with RoX.ALF
1. Congratulations on your win! Did you expect to win?
Thx. Yeap

2. How did you practice for the Longinus game, and how did it play out?
I have been training with Advokate ,he was playing standart m+m ,and only one game he used galls and tanks where he totaly raped me like spx
need to practice more vs such style...

3. Did your loss in the first game influence your play in the second?
Yes. In second game I started to play more carefully.

4. How did you feel going into the deciding game?
With thoughts that I need only a victory

When did you know you had won?
When my lurks borrowed right in front of his bunker.

5. Who have you been practicing with to prepare for these games?
A2 (Advokate)

6. Your two Hatch Mutalisk on Zodiac was very aggressive. Why did you decide to use it on this map?
1st of all because of close locations and also to prevent he`s metal style ^^

7. Your opponent used a metal build on Longinus. Did this catch you off guard? Do you think you would win if you replayed that match?
I don't actually know the right counter vs such style but I think I was doing right things, only micro mistakes were the reason of such a fast loss. The only thing I believe is that the game would be much longer if we replayed it.



#24 [image loading] [image loading] MYM.Dreiven < Bo3 > #41 [image loading] [image loading] RoX.EX

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Dreiven > Ex @ Longinus II
Dreiven < Ex @ Blue Storm
Dreiven > Ex @ Zodiac

Interview with MYM.Dreiven
1. Congratulations on your win! Did you expect to win?
Thx. I was quite inactive again when TSL ladder had closed.. I played like 5 games to warm up but I felt pretty sure about the win

2. How did you practice for the Longinus game, and how did it play out?
I played a lot of games on Longinus, trained different strats (fast range, fe, reaver) and I had a feeling that my 2 gate goons will be nice and as u can see it was the right choice.

3. Did your win in the first game influence your play in the second?
I think not, I loose like 75% of games on bluestorm so I knew I would lost there

4. What do you think caused you loss on Blue Storm?
Probably when i lost like 10 probes on 1 mine ^^ I was clicking somewhere else and just saw the explosion (lol ^^).. I think I could make faster recalls and much more gates. EX played very well on that map so its probably the main reason of my loss

5. How did you feel going into the deciding game? Were you scared fighting 2 Factories with only 1 Gateway? When did you know you had won?
I was quite nervous at that game but not scared I have trust in my goon micro so I was sure I will defend that 1st push.. I knew I had won when he lost almost all scv's to my reaver while I killed all his army at my natural

6. Who have you been practicing with to prepare for these games?
Frankly I haven't been pracitising for this games I played like 10 games with Idra during the TSL ladder.. I can say that TSL had prepared me.



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3D.Temujin < Bo3 > #42 [image loading] [image loading] iG.sky

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3D.Temujin > iG.sky @ Longinus II
3D.Temujin < iG.sky @ Blue Storm
3D.Temujin > iG.sky @ Zodiac

Interview with 3D.Temujin
Congratulations on your win! Did you expect to win?
I think i knew that it will be tough games , and the best will win
i didn't expect to win 100%

Your psy storms drops were efffective in all three games. Was this something you had practiced alot for iG.sky?
No , i always use psi -storm drops against almost all races , but especially versus zerg, because it helps to win game very much. And Sky has mass meat style
so psi-storm drops hurt a lot

In the first match you managed to take out your opponent's main base quite early. Were you confident you had won at this point?
the first game was on longinus and i have pretty good win ratio against Z there , i was confident that i will win

How did you feel going into the deciding game? When did you know that you had won it?
when went out from the base and killed his exp on 10 , destroying all his army

Who have you been practicing with to prepare for these games?
i have played about 5-7 games against Mondragon and Squall @ longinus , and 2 games vs Notforu @ Zodiac
that was all my prepare for this match :/
didn't practice BLue storm at all , so it isn't surprise to me that i lost on it

Ok. Well congratulations on your win and we will see you in the next round!
ok thank you



#21 [image loading] [image loading] LG)HanDy < Bo3 > #44 [image loading] [image loading] fuSion.Rondo

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LG)HanDy > fuSion.Rondo @ Longinus II
LG)HanDy < fuSion.Rondo @ Blue Storm
LG)HanDy < fuSion.Rondo @ Zodiac

Interview with fuSion.Rondo
1. Congratulations on your win! Did you expect to win?
Thanks. Really I wasn't confident in my PvT. On the whole I appreciated my chances ~ 60/40. By the way, the same cipher as in gosubet.

2. How did you practice for the Longinus game, and how did it play out?
I viewed replays of HanDy. I analyzed his style and played counter strategy, but HanDy at that game played without any mistakes, so I lost. It's a little bit strange, because exactly at Longinius I wanted to take a win.

3. Did your loss (4 Factory timing attack) in the first game influence your play in the second?
I was dissapointed, not as much of losing at first map, as big lags. It's very hard to play aggressive strategies with these delays (lag), that suit a Terran in the first place. Anyway I took one self in hand.

4. How did you feel going into the deciding game?
I was strongly nervous. I don't remeber any game with such thrilling in online matches. While my opponent has speaken by phone, I've relaxed. (Note: Handy took a few minutes to answer a phone call) It helped me, thanks HanDy !

5. Who have you been practicing with to prepare for these games?
I've trained with my teammates-terrans. Blue storm I trained with fuSion.spx, and Longinus with fuSion.Josu. Thanks a lot them, they truly helped me!

6. The last game was pretty close, your 2nd expansion was killed fast and Handy's Tanks were in your main base when you were attacking with carriers. When did you think you would win?
Last game was amazing. I made some mistakes at the beginning and was into awful situation. When my expos and minerals ended, I thought about leaving the game... but some power made me to check Handy's goliath control. So, he couldn't read at this and surrendered. I will remember this game a long time, as the most exciting and important game in my life.



#28 [image loading] [image loading] 3D.Notforu < Bo3 > #37 [image loading] [image loading] NaW-LzGaMeR

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3D.NotForu > NaW-LzGaMeR Longinus
3D.NotForu > NaW-LzGaMeR Blue Storm

Interview with 3D.Notforu
1. In the first game you had a very interesting build. What was your motivation for this build? Did you immediately know that you could beat Lzgamer with this?
Sometimes u need to do some unexpected things. Its common when a protss stars with 2 rax that map and after going an expansion. Casual games zerg put 3 hatchery going lurkas. I killed his scout so i can do something he would not expect - early mutas

2. In the first game your opponent opened two gate. Did this surprise you given typcial Protoss fast expand and how did you change your planned build at all?
my planned build was casual but once i saw 2 gate i had to play more safer.

3. How did you feel going into the second game? Were you confident?
Second game was longer and hareder beacasue of the map. Blue storm its the map i dont want to playu =)

4. When did you think you had won the second match?
I never think like that "Yes im already won" in a serious games. I try hard until ppl say GG or i say same. U cant understimate your opponts skills if u want a win

5. Who did you practice with to prepare for these games?
Today im a bit tired of regular practice so the best pracice for me its nogames for a couple of days. I played 2 games vs temu for his match vs SKy and today 3 games vs RA Iccup cl using 2 maps of TSl mappool. As i said the best practice for me is a rest for a couple of days - then i have mitovation to play.




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Excello.CaStrO < Bo3 > #46 [image loading] [image loading] Qpad.ZpuX

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Excello.Castro > Qpad.ZpuX @ Longinus
Excello.Castro > Qpad.ZpuX @ Blue Storm

Interview with Excello.CastrO
1. How were you feeling going into this match against ZpuX?
Well... i was nervous cause the conection problems, and i was coming from another tournament. thats was i got late to the channel. but i have confidence in me !

Your first match was on Longinus. Did you prepare a build for your opponent and did it go the way you expected?
no, i believe i start playing as he expected, but i change to a strat that i almost never use, i believe my experience help me cause i control myself and won

In the second game you went 3 hatch hydra and it was a close game. At what point did you think you had won the game?
when he wrote "GG" ! it was a really close game.

Yes it was. Who have you been practicing with to prepare for these games?
i play with jf and Iccup with my smurf trying to be rank A, but i didn't play with many protoss

Did your win on Longinus give you confidence to beat your opponent?
or did you want to take it one step at a time

one step at a time

Well congratulations on your win and we will see you in the next round of TSL qualifiers!
thank for the interview and go go go




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USA29055 Posts
April 26 2008 15:56 GMT
#2
horror/dunaj reps are horrible. proxy fact in both games that dunaj couldnt defend cause he was a moron -.-
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
April 26 2008 15:58 GMT
#3
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
April 26 2008 16:02 GMT
#4
wtf where are the reps
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
April 26 2008 16:03 GMT
#5
oh news
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
April 26 2008 16:03 GMT
#6
On April 27 2008 01:02 RaGe wrote:
wtf where are the reps

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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
April 26 2008 16:12 GMT
#7
Personally I thought Skew wasn't that far behind in Game 3 of their series, and Leg got a bunch of bugged scarabs there too. Skew's play in Game 1 was flawless, but he was just a big late on scouting the carriers in Game 2. I haven't seen the Horror/Dunaj reps yet but I will watch them when I get the chance.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-26 16:13:56
April 26 2008 16:13 GMT
#8
So when do the bo5's start and at what point are players qualified for the next round of tsl?

Whoever Dunaj was, he really got skewered by that proxy fact..twice...OUCH.

In game three I was surprised skew just left so quickly after scouting the left expo. I mean c'mon, could've at least given a fight..it is a tournament after all.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
April 26 2008 16:14 GMT
#9
Next round is Ro32 Groups, which will be announced on Sunday. That will happen next week.

Ro32 (No Broadcast) will be Dual Tournament style
Ro16 (Broadcast) will be Bo3
Ro8 (Broadcast) will be Bo5

And onwards Bo5
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Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
April 26 2008 16:20 GMT
#10
Skew vs Leg was good! awesome reaver usage as usual from leg!

Dunaj vs Horror wasn't very good
I was a bit disappointed that dunaj didn't try and beat horror with a standard build the second game.
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
April 26 2008 16:21 GMT
#11
Horror quite outclassed Dunaj there. On Bluestorm Dunaj proxied him in a very obvious spot (at the min only) and was scouted right away. On Longinus, that proxy fac made Dunaj's life miserable. Both short and one-sided rapes.
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USA29055 Posts
April 26 2008 16:22 GMT
#12
i think leg vs skew was ok.. great play by both no doubt but the games themselves weren't great. Skew quit in game 3 and game 2 he didnt scout carrier so he quit then too really.. sad
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
April 26 2008 16:36 GMT
#13
On April 27 2008 01:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
i think leg vs skew was ok.. great play by both no doubt but the games themselves weren't great. Skew quit in game 3 and game 2 he didnt scout carrier so he quit then too really.. sad

well at least skew didn´t quit before the games like Testie did
btw the mine that destroyed a bunch of tanks at the end of game 2 was a legit reason to quit right away imo ^^
Aesop
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Hungary11291 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-26 16:39:34
April 26 2008 16:36 GMT
#14
Leg vs. Skew 2nd game had a cool "BOOM" short before the end
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Braavos36374 Posts
April 26 2008 16:37 GMT
#15
yeah that was a sick moment, he sieged right on top of 2 mines
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Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
April 26 2008 16:38 GMT
#16
if leg gets in the money, i expect 1/3 of his winnings !
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-26 16:39:49
April 26 2008 16:38 GMT
#17
On April 27 2008 01:37 Hot_Bid wrote:
yeah that was a sick moment, he sieged right on top of 2 mines

The game was already over, but I imagine it was the even that kept him from fighting on.
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Profile Joined January 2008
United States268 Posts
April 26 2008 16:49 GMT
#18
I can't stop looking at that gif.
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USA29055 Posts
April 26 2008 16:50 GMT
#19
that is the SADDEST gif i ever saw o lawd.
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United States2869 Posts
April 26 2008 16:54 GMT
#20
Sad little testie t.t
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