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PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
June 04 2009 22:15 GMT
#21
Group F: Leta, fantasy, Jaedong, Movie

No comment ! O_O
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
June 04 2009 22:17 GMT
#22
Group F is deadly.
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
June 04 2009 22:28 GMT
#23
Group B 4 Dragon fighting autovote... Group F comes close 2nd
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 04 2009 22:31 GMT
#24
wow...
leta, jd, fantasy and movie

lmao if Movie wins it.

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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
June 04 2009 22:39 GMT
#25
wowoowwo the groups this year are gonna be so awesome!!!

group F is crazy though
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 04 2009 22:46 GMT
#26
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup

But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP.
Jaedong
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
June 04 2009 22:50 GMT
#27
On June 05 2009 06:07 Carnac wrote:
lol what? pvp much in group b? voted f myself, but b is a very, very, very close 2nd


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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
June 04 2009 22:50 GMT
#28
Basically, Stork has the easiest group; FBH's group is doable for him (pure and much are mediocore, forGG is failGG) so his chance of advancing out of his group is high.
Jangbi? Good luck lol he's really going to need it.

The rest are not KHAN players so I don't care. (A shame frozean did not advance).
:]
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
June 04 2009 22:51 GMT
#29
Poll needs a B/F dual group of death option. I voted B, but they're both insane.
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
June 04 2009 22:52 GMT
#30
stork really got a lucky group. i am really sorry for free cause he will probably lose pretty badly. its really bad luck if you are able to go up against anyone in pvz and pvt and you get a group with the most feared protoss players (except for stork) of our time.
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
June 04 2009 22:56 GMT
#31
On June 05 2009 07:46 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup

But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP.

are you insane? kal, jangbi and stork are all right behind bisu when it comes to pvp. tell me one player that even reaches their level of play
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
June 04 2009 22:58 GMT
#32
Group F is ridiculous. I feel sorry for Movie
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
June 04 2009 23:14 GMT
#33
F.

Its not even close.
Group B has bisu, rest are slumping, not even on PR...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
June 04 2009 23:28 GMT
#34
Group F is just ridiculous.

Group A also deserves a mention though. Effort has been crazy good recently, Luxury is the defending champion, and Hiya and Hwasin are consistent Terrans. That's not an easy group by any stretch.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
June 04 2009 23:30 GMT
#35
B, with F and A being pretty tough as well.

4/6 dragons? Insanity. Out of sheer chance, even great players will lose 5 or 6 games in a row. I think the term "slump" is tossed around far too much. Bisu should obviously make it through, but Kal, Jangbi and Free are all well in the running for that second spot.
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
June 04 2009 23:31 GMT
#36
Group F should be interesting

But Flash all the way!
ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
June 04 2009 23:33 GMT
#37
LoL (P)Movie
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 23:46:40
June 04 2009 23:45 GMT
#38
On June 05 2009 06:44 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup


You're joking right?

I can somewhat see the claim for Group B I guess but Leta/Fantasy/Jaedong are playing far and away better than anyone in Group B besides Bisu. Practicing one matchup is the exact reason it really isn't a group of death. Jaedong will have to practice vT and vP both while Leta and Fantasy have to prepare ALL THREE

Bisu will steam roll that group B, rest is coin flip.

I think school victim made some good points so ease up. The level of play in Group B will be that much higher because everyone is practicing the same matchup and PvP is a matchup where one little micro mistake (i.e. lost shuttle) equals the game. It will be very tense for every game in that group, I predict. Group F could be seen as 3 worthy players fighting for 2 spots while Group B is 4 worthy players fighting for 2 spots. Still, having the previous OSL finalists in one group is pretty extreme, so I'll vote Group F.

Edit to add: Movie is looking great lately, too, don't get me wrong. But, he's surely yet to step into S Class territory. He has a chance to in this group, but I don't see it happening.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
June 04 2009 23:52 GMT
#39
On June 05 2009 07:50 illu wrote:
Basically, Stork has the easiest group; FBH's group is doable for him (pure and much are mediocore, forGG is failGG) so his chance of advancing out of his group is high.
Jangbi? Good luck lol he's really going to need it.

The rest are not KHAN players so I don't care. (A shame frozean did not advance).

FBH can't TvP his way out of a Guemchi-soaked paper bag so I predict he has no chance against Much, a low chance against Pure, and a good shot against FailGG. Jangbi is coming out of his recent slump and Kal and Free are twins in that they are way better at PvT and PvZ than PvP, so I predict Bisu and Jangbi advance.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
June 04 2009 23:56 GMT
#40
I think we can all agree that Group C is the group of suck or the group of Stork is a coward or the group of Stork finally realizes that he is too old to win a starleague without an easy path ala July's 3rd OSL.
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