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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 28 2009 09:45 GMT
#1
My bet is God's Garden is going to win, but really, Outsider is soo fucking good - as is heartbreak ridge. Outsider generates more unique games imo (dropship ftw) hence why it gets my vote. Although heartbreak is a solid standard-ish map
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-28 09:52:11
April 28 2009 09:50 GMT
#2
Why is neo medusa even in this poll?
Voted outsider, almost every single game on that map has been of high quality and entertaining. All of the (actually) new maps seem pretty balanced with the obvious exception of Battle Royale.
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Phearlock
Profile Joined December 2007
Norway400 Posts
April 28 2009 09:52 GMT
#3
I'm going to vote for gods garden because that's the map I've seen the best games on so far, but probably because I missed a lot of the games played on outsider.

Both these maps are really entertaining =)
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7847 Posts
April 28 2009 09:56 GMT
#4
Outsider. I would vote Battle Royal but it's so zerg favored it's not entertaining... it's just innovative.

I like Neo Medusa too.. but only because Flash plays it so much. FANBOI much? lol.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
April 28 2009 09:56 GMT
#5
I voted Outsider. Outsider,Heartbreak Ridge, are good maps, God's Garden is ok. I have no fucking idea how they passed battle royale as a playable map for PL. Its extremely imbalanced for Z, one of the worst maps ever.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 28 2009 09:57 GMT
#6
On April 28 2009 18:56 samachking wrote:
I voted Outsider. Outsider,Heartbreak Ridge, are good maps, God's Garden is ok. I have no fucking idea how they passed battle royale as a playable map for PL. Its extremely imbalanced for Z, one of the worst maps ever.

What confuses me even more is that people are voting for the map wtfff
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PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
April 28 2009 10:00 GMT
#7
Outsider 43%. WOAW ! :p
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Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
April 28 2009 10:01 GMT
#8
Outsider by far
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 28 2009 10:03 GMT
#9
On April 28 2009 18:57 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2009 18:56 samachking wrote:
I voted Outsider. Outsider,Heartbreak Ridge, are good maps, God's Garden is ok. I have no fucking idea how they passed battle royale as a playable map for PL. Its extremely imbalanced for Z, one of the worst maps ever.

What confuses me even more is that people are voting for the map wtfff

Even though there's a ton of ZvZ's on it, most of them have been very entertaining ZvZ's. But yeah dunno why anyone would vote for it.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
April 28 2009 10:29 GMT
#10
god's garden for me hehe
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[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
April 28 2009 10:42 GMT
#11
Outsider creates this nostalgic feelings, especially in PvT.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
April 28 2009 10:51 GMT
#12
ever since i saw battle royal on the beta maps list, i knew it would be a zvz fest and that it would suck.

voted outsider. the double gas (or just the middle of two expos) makes things interesting.
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DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
April 28 2009 11:31 GMT
#13
Heartbreak Ridge for me. Great ZvTs left and right.

God's Garden a close second.
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AlTheCake
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1071 Posts
April 28 2009 11:46 GMT
#14
Outsider for sure.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
April 28 2009 11:48 GMT
#15
Battle Royal.

Where else have you seen a 34 minute ZvZ?

Plus I <3 ZvZ for some reason.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 28 2009 11:49 GMT
#16
On April 28 2009 20:48 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Battle Royal.

Where else have you seen a 34 minute ZvZ?

Plus I <3 ZvZ for some reason.
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 28 2009 12:02 GMT
#17
Gogo outsider.

Lots of glitching through minerals, dropship play, overall very fun to watch.
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
April 28 2009 12:03 GMT
#18
ZvZ Battle Royal :p
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 28 2009 12:19 GMT
#19
So far Outsider, certainly; I love how it strikes a balance between allowing creativity and standard macro play. Both God's Garden and Heartbreak Ridge also seem good.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
April 28 2009 12:38 GMT
#20
Battle Royal sucks, so much ZvZ

Outsider, on the other hand, is awesome. Lots of dropship/shuttle plays, hidden expos, mineral glitches, 1 vulture expo denial, etc.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 28 2009 13:27 GMT
#21
why would anyone enjoy Battle Royal ZvZ? Macro ZvZ is boring as hell, I'd much rather watch 8 minutes of pure micro than seeing 2 guys make as many mutas as they can in 20 minutes and then attack move vs. the other guy to see who has more mutas/upgrades.

voted garden, probably because I haven't seen many games on ridge or outsider. neo medusa's a big step up from old medusa, but there's no way it's going to get votes over new maps for entertainment value.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
April 28 2009 13:50 GMT
#22
Outsider was so under appreciated going into this round - it had the best concept and style to it, but no one liked it because it was an Ash World map. Now I think it's totally clear that it's the best map out of the bunch.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
April 28 2009 13:50 GMT
#23
gods garden

outsider is very awesome as well though
fishyjoes
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany644 Posts
April 28 2009 13:53 GMT
#24
Ya people are voting for Battle Royal because its a great ZvZ map.
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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
April 28 2009 14:54 GMT
#25
outside for sure

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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
April 28 2009 15:17 GMT
#26
God's garden.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-28 16:07:53
April 28 2009 16:07 GMT
#27
edit: wrong thread
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
April 28 2009 16:30 GMT
#28
I love Gods Garden, but Heartbreak Ridge has had the best games tbh!
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
April 28 2009 16:47 GMT
#29
On April 28 2009 20:48 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Battle Royal.

Where else have you seen a 34 minute ZvZ?

Plus I <3 ZvZ for some reason.
On Rush Hour?

btw I voted Outsider, but after today's games in GOM, I already regret not picking God's Garden.
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
April 28 2009 17:06 GMT
#30
I voted Battle Royal on that previous pool about which map you were looking forward the most before the season started. But now that I've seen many games on all those maps. I voted God's Garden because it produced some much better games than all the others.

ZvZ suck and only some very few weirdos disagree. And those ridges in God's Garden incentivated creative drops much more that I could have guessed.
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
April 28 2009 17:14 GMT
#31
On April 29 2009 02:06 VIB wrote:
I voted Battle Royal on that previous pool about which map you were looking forward the most before the season started. But now that I've seen many games on all those maps. I voted God's Garden because it produced some much better games than all the others.

ZvZ suck and only some very few weirdos disagree. And those ridges in God's Garden incentivated creative drops much more that I could have guessed.


Man, spawning on Gods Garden so that you have your opponents back exp facing your main is fucking golden. As a Zerg I must say I like the cross positions much more though
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
April 28 2009 17:48 GMT
#32
On April 28 2009 18:57 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2009 18:56 samachking wrote:
I voted Outsider. Outsider,Heartbreak Ridge, are good maps, God's Garden is ok. I have no fucking idea how they passed battle royale as a playable map for PL. Its extremely imbalanced for Z, one of the worst maps ever.

What confuses me even more is that people are voting for the map wtfff


The twin battle on it was pretty intense.
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
April 28 2009 18:53 GMT
#33
Heartbreak ridge is epic to me because + Show Spoiler +
Fantasy beat Jaedong there in the PL
Gods Garden has produced some nice games, but I voted Outsider just because there hasn't been a game on there not worth watching.
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StalkerSC
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada378 Posts
April 28 2009 19:22 GMT
#34
Neo Medusa is kinda similar to Medusa.
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pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5398 Posts
April 28 2009 19:30 GMT
#35
Obviously god's garden is the most entertaining... anyone on the same wavelength will agree 100%.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
April 28 2009 19:39 GMT
#36
Missing "I don't know" =) I really haven't seen to much games but i take Plexas word about Outsider and Im gonna watch a few games on it
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 28 2009 21:43 GMT
#37
Heart break ridge has produced some amazing games.
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 28 2009 21:44 GMT
#38
On April 28 2009 22:50 p4NDemik wrote:
Outsider was so under appreciated going into this round - it had the best concept and style to it, but no one liked it because it was an Ash World map. Now I think it's totally clear that it's the best map out of the bunch.


Actually, yes. Ashworld maps do not get much love in the Starcraft universe. Maybe outsider would have been more interesting if it weren't on a Ashworld tileset.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
April 28 2009 21:44 GMT
#39
I love ZvZ. <3
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Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
April 28 2009 22:00 GMT
#40
Heartbreak Ridge, some epic games on there already. Stork vs (?Zero?) where Stork was behind all game but made one single push and won the game. Um, Fantasy vs Jaedong where Fantasy showcased really intelligent build and then pulled off some SICK vulture harass. Also, i gotta give second place to Neo Medusa just because Great's build is so hilarious.
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Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
April 28 2009 22:25 GMT
#41
Battle Royale should be renamed as Jaedong Royale cause that map is his! I mean, ZvZ is already impossible against him in that map.. but PvZ or TvZ against him?.. Insanity! Madness!!! :p
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
April 28 2009 22:45 GMT
#42
Battle Royal would be great if this were winners league. :/

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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
April 28 2009 22:50 GMT
#43
Wow I am suprised everyone else agrees GG is the most fun
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ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
April 28 2009 23:14 GMT
#44
battle royal ! interesting timings and stuff
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Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
April 28 2009 23:19 GMT
#45
I want Python back.
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
April 28 2009 23:36 GMT
#46
On April 29 2009 03:53 Railz wrote:
Heartbreak ridge is epic to me because + Show Spoiler +
Fantasy beat Jaedong there in the PL
Gods Garden has produced some nice games, but I voted Outsider just because there hasn't been a game on there not worth watching.

This.

Also, Outsider has the advantage of hosting Bisu vs Light.
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koloskye
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-28 23:56:37
April 28 2009 23:56 GMT
#47
Heartbreak Ridge ftw!
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peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
April 29 2009 00:01 GMT
#48
battle royal=new raid assault
the throws never bothered me anyway
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 29 2009 01:05 GMT
#49
99% of people who vote for Battle Royal like it because of a) the Lux vs. Yarnc match, or b) Savior's win against Firebathero.
this is my quote.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 29 2009 01:11 GMT
#50
None of the new maps connect with me,
God's Garden is too standard, at least Python at the corner expos and Andromeda had the edge expos.
Heartbreak Ridge's terrain just seems useless and constricting.
Battle Royale, yea.
Outsider, the outside of it hasn't been used to its pull potential, and kind of gives it a detached feeling. I guess I like this one the best.
Jaedong
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 29 2009 01:27 GMT
#51
I picked Outsider because I've seen so many interesting / entertaining games there.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-29 06:48:23
April 29 2009 01:30 GMT
#52
On April 28 2009 20:48 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Battle Royal.

Where else have you seen a 34 minute ZvZ?

Plus I <3 ZvZ for some reason.


If you make a map that produces one matchup exclusively, yes you will occasionally get to see a good game in that MU. That one game doesn't excuse all of the painfully awful mirrors.

The only people voting for Battle Royal are Jaedong fans. I refuse to believe anyone else could be tempted to vote for it.
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ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
April 29 2009 04:57 GMT
#53
Outsider!
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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
April 29 2009 05:06 GMT
#54
outsider is the shit!!

god's garden is just loki meets Lost Temple lol

i like heartbreak ridge too.

i dont like battle royal
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
April 29 2009 12:55 GMT
#55
On April 29 2009 10:30 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2009 20:48 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Battle Royal.

Where else have you seen a 34 minute ZvZ?

Plus I <3 ZvZ for some reason.


If you make a map that produces one matchup exclusively, yes you will occasionally get to see a good game in that MU. That one game doesn't excuse all of the painfully awful mirrors.

The only people voting for Battle Royal are Jaedong fans. I refuse to believe anyone else could be tempted to vote for it.



im not a Jaedong fan :p
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
April 29 2009 23:20 GMT
#56
Battle Royal is great if you like maps in the same style as Raid assault 2.

Gotta say, outsider is creating some great games. God's garden should hopefully be another standard macro map that stays around for just about forever.
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Twilight Templar
Profile Joined April 2009
99 Posts
April 29 2009 23:47 GMT
#57
God's garden for sure, the funny thing is i thought that map would be the most standard.
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 30 2009 00:00 GMT
#58
Damn, and Outsider was winning at the beginning to.
anTi_
Profile Joined October 2008
United States499 Posts
April 30 2009 01:19 GMT
#59
how is god's garden beating outsider by that much? for me #1 outsider, 2. HB ridge, 3. GG, 4. Neo Medusa, 5. Battle royal.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
April 30 2009 07:58 GMT
#60
I dont understand.. If it's that bad for T/P how can it even be released?
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 30 2009 10:35 GMT
#61
god's garden

if you dont know why this map is good watch gom.
krnfootballer
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)3 Posts
April 30 2009 13:34 GMT
#62
why do ppl like gods of garden>?
i should rephrase that.. why do ppl lke GoG BETTER than outsider?
Outsider by far is the superior map than any others. Its sooo good and well balanced
it also involves more strats(my opinion) on the map.
guhh using FD (for terran mainly) to pick off workers from both sides expos and main base = automatic gg
i just like the new map style such as the Outsider
its sooo phuckinggg gooodddd
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drinking
Profile Joined December 2008
Philippines281 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 21:46:25
April 30 2009 21:45 GMT
#63
God's Garden would be nice. Packed with action especially in PvT
Battle Royal is just so ZvZ map.
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Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
May 01 2009 00:06 GMT
#64
God's Garden for sure!
Firebathero is still the best!
Zeridian
Profile Joined April 2009
United States198 Posts
May 01 2009 01:51 GMT
#65
god's garden is a good macro map, but I like the cool things that happen on heartbreak ridge.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 01 2009 15:16 GMT
#66
On April 29 2009 07:45 Bosu wrote:
Battle Royal would be great if this were winners league. :/


Not at all, then we'd have to watch Zergs abusing it for easy wins over superior players. If Battle Royal was in the WL pool, it would be near impossible for Protosses and Terrans to all-kill.
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Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
May 01 2009 16:17 GMT
#67
Tough call. Outsider or Gods Garden. I've seen better matches on Outsider so i voted that.
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
May 01 2009 18:44 GMT
#68
Outsider is pretty cool, other then a lack of protoss HBR is neat, but vote goes to God's Garden, sexy sexy map with some crazyyy games (recent GOM games *drool)
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errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
May 01 2009 19:48 GMT
#69
On May 02 2009 00:16 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2009 07:45 Bosu wrote:
Battle Royal would be great if this were winners league. :/


Not at all, then we'd have to watch Zergs abusing it for easy wins over superior players. If Battle Royal was in the WL pool, it would be near impossible for Protosses and Terrans to all-kill.



It might not be *great*, but it'd be a lot better than 24/7 ZvZ. Watching the top players deal with these imbalances can really be a lot of fun, if they aren't incredibly hideous (then it's just painful and saddening).

Thing is we can't really know just how bad the map is. Logic would dictate that even a small to medium advantage would heavily weight the map to zvzs. So really it may not be too much more than that.. and we keep seeing terrans come out each week so far too.

Map sucks though, don't get me wrong.


-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
May 01 2009 22:50 GMT
#70
I chose God's Garden. But I only chose it because I like the name, and because I've watched Tasteless cast some great Gom games.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
May 02 2009 04:23 GMT
#71
On May 02 2009 04:48 errol1001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2009 00:16 JWD wrote:
On April 29 2009 07:45 Bosu wrote:
Battle Royal would be great if this were winners league. :/


Not at all, then we'd have to watch Zergs abusing it for easy wins over superior players. If Battle Royal was in the WL pool, it would be near impossible for Protosses and Terrans to all-kill.



It might not be *great*, but it'd be a lot better than 24/7 ZvZ. Watching the top players deal with these imbalances can really be a lot of fun, if they aren't incredibly hideous (then it's just painful and saddening).

Thing is we can't really know just how bad the map is. Logic would dictate that even a small to medium advantage would heavily weight the map to zvzs. So really it may not be too much more than that.. and we keep seeing terrans come out each week so far too.

Map sucks though, don't get me wrong.



Oversky > Flash while going pure hydras against mech.

It would end up being sad, not fun. Hell, it's sad in proleague.
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errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
May 02 2009 07:26 GMT
#72
On May 02 2009 13:23 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2009 04:48 errol1001 wrote:
On May 02 2009 00:16 JWD wrote:
On April 29 2009 07:45 Bosu wrote:
Battle Royal would be great if this were winners league. :/


Not at all, then we'd have to watch Zergs abusing it for easy wins over superior players. If Battle Royal was in the WL pool, it would be near impossible for Protosses and Terrans to all-kill.



It might not be *great*, but it'd be a lot better than 24/7 ZvZ. Watching the top players deal with these imbalances can really be a lot of fun, if they aren't incredibly hideous (then it's just painful and saddening).

Thing is we can't really know just how bad the map is. Logic would dictate that even a small to medium advantage would heavily weight the map to zvzs. So really it may not be too much more than that.. and we keep seeing terrans come out each week so far too.

Map sucks though, don't get me wrong.



Oversky > Flash while going pure hydras against mech.

It would end up being sad, not fun. Hell, it's sad in proleague.


I think that's giving Oversky not enough credit personally. He dismantled Flash with perfect timing and positioning.

He basically beat pure goliaths with pure hydras, not mech.
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May 02 2009 11:21 GMT
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Voted God's Garden. Because i think this map really challenges your micro in huge clashes. 1st - 2 naturals, 2nd - no additional expos except other mains. So you can have a decent army, but cannot really commit to full might. Seems balanced map to me.

Outsider is good, although i can't stop thinking this is a slightly terran map. Heartbreaker Ridge is awesome, we'll see very monstrous games on it, i believe so. Battle Royale completely sucks. I like Oversky, but i'll be damned if he can beat Flash in fair fight while being ACE player.
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