EPTLiquibition #30 - whats going to happen?
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Lemonwalrus
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Rostam
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
but I guess it kinda depends on how much kOs will practice for this | ||
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Showtime!
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lxginverse
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Puosu
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
United States190 Posts
he said how he was disappointed he couldn't earn good marks, and he eventually got off the team he was the really silly one from the OLD SKOOL SKT he was also kind of a trouble maker | ||
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
United States190 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
United States190 Posts
On April 16 2009 04:09 Zozma wrote: Kos. If he starts losing, he can just get UpMagic to play. wow i laughed at that. i still think F91 is gonna beat him though | ||
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omninmo
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
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SoulMarine
United States586 Posts
BTW, I really like his style, "Drunken Master" lol | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
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Dgtl
Canada889 Posts
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MoRe_mInErAls
Canada1210 Posts
On April 16 2009 02:34 Lemonwalrus wrote: I think F91 will win by a small margin. Although I can think of no one better to finally dethrone the current king of Liquibition. I can. I think Jaedong would have at least 50/50 odds of beating F91 | ||
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Zerum
Sweden348 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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SerpentFlame
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koziol
Poland768 Posts
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
Terran power! | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On April 16 2009 05:31 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: I can. I think Jaedong would have at least 50/50 odds of beating F91 LoL@!!! U SUREe GOTt HiM tHAIR ;}!! !:}!}:}! | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On April 16 2009 05:39 Roffles wrote: Pftt, Jaedong has 80/20 odds of beating F91. Except lately his odds have increased to roughly 90/10. I would say the odds of F91 beating Jaedong in a serious BO7 are about 0.5%, and I'm not joking at all. Edit: The more I think about it, the more I think it's closer to 0.1%. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
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stroggos
New Zealand1543 Posts
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Centric
United States1989 Posts
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AlwaysGG
Taiwan952 Posts
KOs is retired after all and i am very believe in F91 ability , one of top zerg in china  other then PLU.alone haha | ||
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Rainbow
United States249 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + JESUS TRY THE HARD LIFE OF A ZERG. WE DONT HAVE FUCKING MAP CROSSING ARCLITE CANNONS, EVERYTHING CANNOT BE REPAIRS, WE DONT HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION LIKE SPIDER MINES AND WE CERTAINLY AS FUCK DONT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS CAUSE ANY GAME THAT HAS THAT SUCKS LIKE COMMAND AND CONQUER 3. ALSO, WE DONT HAVE FLYING BUILDINGS OR MOTHERFUCKING DEFENSIVE STRUCTURES THAT SHOOT AIR AND GROUND AND CAN BE REPAIRED AND COST 100$ FUCKING MINERALS. OUR WORKERS DIE WHEN THE WIND BLOWS TOO HARD AND SURE AS FUCK DONT HAVE FUSION CUTTERS. WAIT? YOU HAVE GOLIATHS THAT SHOOT ACROSS THE MAP AT AIR UNITS AND CAN BE REPAIRED AND ARE CHEAP? JESUS WHO MADE THIS GAME. JESUS I WISH I HAD 5-6 of THE ALL TIME BEST PLAYERS TO MODEL MY GAME AFTER. WAIT? WERENT THEY ALL FUCKING TERRAN? WE HAVE NADA, BOXER, OOV, FLASH, MIDAS and XELLOS ALL KICKING ASS FOR YEARS AT A TIME WHILE WE GET FUCKING FAT ASS JULY WHO SUCKS NOW, YELLOW WHO ALWAYS FUCKING SUCKED BUT NOBODY KNEW FOR A BIT AND WE FINALLY GOT SAVIOR BUT THEN THEY DRESSED HIM LIKE HITLER SO HE SUCKED AND NOW WE HAVE JAEDONG BUT THAT KID CANT FIGURE OUT THE NEW KOREAN MAPS THAT DONT MATTER. JESUS FUCK IT MUST BE NICE TO HAVE PLAYERS THAT SPAN DECADES AND DOMINATE THE ENTIRE TIME. GIMME SOME OF THAT PLEASE. HEY WHAT ABOUT BUILDINGS DO YOU LOSE A SCV EACH TIME YOU MAKE ONE? NO. WHAT THE FUCK? WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN ACTUALLY TELL THEM TO RETURN TO MINING AFTER THEY ARE DONE BUILDING? I THOUGHT THAT AUTO MINING GARBAGE WAS FOR HACKERS OR BAD GAMES. TERRAN'S CAN DO IT? FUCK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A SWEET DEAL. EACH TIME WE (zerg) HAVE TO BUILD WE TELL ONE OF OUR SACRED MINERS "HEY FUCK YOU TIME TO DIE" AND THEY DO. THEN WE GET A FUCKING BUILDING. WHICH, HALF THE TIME ISNT ENOUGH: WE HAVE TO PAY MOREE FUCKING MONEY TO GET IT TO DO SOME SHIT LIKE DICK THE GROUND OR SPRAY PISS IN THE AIR. WHEN YOU SELECT RANDOM, WHAT GAME SCREEN DO YOU GET IN BETWEEN? ANY GUESSERS? THAT'S RIGHT: TERRAN. EVEN THE FUCKING GAME KNOWS WHAT YOU SHOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE CHOSEN WHEN YOU FORGOT TO SELECT TERRAN AND GOT RANDOM. FUCKING INSANE BIAS. lolol | ||
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
i think F91 | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
On April 16 2009 05:31 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: I can. I think Jaedong would have at least 50/50 odds of beating F91  | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
Was K0s the T that was known for his metal usage back in the days? | ||
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OmgIRok
Taiwan2699 Posts
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Kyo Yuy
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miseiler
United States1389 Posts
On April 16 2009 10:58 Kyo Yuy wrote: This poll is not close. It's pretty obvious there is an insane bias favoring Zerg on TeamLiquid in general That's because zerg are fucking amazing. Fact. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On April 16 2009 07:36 darktreb wrote: I would say the odds of F91 beating Jaedong in a serious BO7 are about 0.5%, and I'm not joking at all. Edit: The more I think about it, the more I think it's closer to 0.1%. Unless my math is wrong(which is quite often cause I'm sloppy), if F91 can win 10% of his games against Jaedong, then the odds of him winning a Bo7 is about .3%. And quite frankly, I can't imagine Jaedong losing even 10% against F91. He can simply 9 pool every single game. As it's really hard to cheese in ZvZ. | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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CoL_Drake
Germany455 Posts
start talkling about epic old baby kOs GOGO kOs the "oldschool" builds f91 plays so often will be destroyed by even older builds from kOs xD | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
kOs's probly gauging f91's skillz, dude's got no reason to wanna do this otherwise. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
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Shuray
Brazil642 Posts
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
United States190 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
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Sanity.
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Spyfire242
United States715 Posts
On April 16 2009 09:41 Rainbow wrote: I believe kOs will win, because read {88}iNcontroL on Z v T: + Show Spoiler + JESUS TRY THE HARD LIFE OF A ZERG. WE DONT HAVE FUCKING MAP CROSSING ARCLITE CANNONS, EVERYTHING CANNOT BE REPAIRS, WE DONT HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION LIKE SPIDER MINES AND WE CERTAINLY AS FUCK DONT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS CAUSE ANY GAME THAT HAS THAT SUCKS LIKE COMMAND AND CONQUER 3. ALSO, WE DONT HAVE FLYING BUILDINGS OR MOTHERFUCKING DEFENSIVE STRUCTURES THAT SHOOT AIR AND GROUND AND CAN BE REPAIRED AND COST 100$ FUCKING MINERALS. OUR WORKERS DIE WHEN THE WIND BLOWS TOO HARD AND SURE AS FUCK DONT HAVE FUSION CUTTERS. WAIT? YOU HAVE GOLIATHS THAT SHOOT ACROSS THE MAP AT AIR UNITS AND CAN BE REPAIRED AND ARE CHEAP? JESUS WHO MADE THIS GAME. JESUS I WISH I HAD 5-6 of THE ALL TIME BEST PLAYERS TO MODEL MY GAME AFTER. WAIT? WERENT THEY ALL FUCKING TERRAN? WE HAVE NADA, BOXER, OOV, FLASH, MIDAS and XELLOS ALL KICKING ASS FOR YEARS AT A TIME WHILE WE GET FUCKING FAT ASS JULY WHO SUCKS NOW, YELLOW WHO ALWAYS FUCKING SUCKED BUT NOBODY KNEW FOR A BIT AND WE FINALLY GOT SAVIOR BUT THEN THEY DRESSED HIM LIKE HITLER SO HE SUCKED AND NOW WE HAVE JAEDONG BUT THAT KID CANT FIGURE OUT THE NEW KOREAN MAPS THAT DONT MATTER. JESUS FUCK IT MUST BE NICE TO HAVE PLAYERS THAT SPAN DECADES AND DOMINATE THE ENTIRE TIME. GIMME SOME OF THAT PLEASE. HEY WHAT ABOUT BUILDINGS DO YOU LOSE A SCV EACH TIME YOU MAKE ONE? NO. WHAT THE FUCK? WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN ACTUALLY TELL THEM TO RETURN TO MINING AFTER THEY ARE DONE BUILDING? I THOUGHT THAT AUTO MINING GARBAGE WAS FOR HACKERS OR BAD GAMES. TERRAN'S CAN DO IT? FUCK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A SWEET DEAL. EACH TIME WE (zerg) HAVE TO BUILD WE TELL ONE OF OUR SACRED MINERS "HEY FUCK YOU TIME TO DIE" AND THEY DO. THEN WE GET A FUCKING BUILDING. WHICH, HALF THE TIME ISNT ENOUGH: WE HAVE TO PAY MOREE FUCKING MONEY TO GET IT TO DO SOME SHIT LIKE DICK THE GROUND OR SPRAY PISS IN THE AIR. WHEN YOU SELECT RANDOM, WHAT GAME SCREEN DO YOU GET IN BETWEEN? ANY GUESSERS? THAT'S RIGHT: TERRAN. EVEN THE FUCKING GAME KNOWS WHAT YOU SHOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE CHOSEN WHEN YOU FORGOT TO SELECT TERRAN AND GOT RANDOM. FUCKING INSANE BIAS. lolol Sounds like he was angry... | ||
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BalliSLife
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deathgod6
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Suc
Australia1569 Posts
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Vex
Ireland454 Posts
On April 16 2009 05:31 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: I can. I think Jaedong would have at least 50/50 odds of beating F91 your kidding rite? JD 100% would beat f91. in all games. ofc. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
On April 17 2009 21:30 Vex wrote: your kidding rite? JD 100% would beat f91. in all games. ofc. yeah.. maybe against any Z in proleague, he could have some win... but not vs Jeadong O.o | ||
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Imposter
United States11 Posts
HE USED TO BE A PROGAMER HELLOOO! | ||
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
United States190 Posts
On April 18 2009 01:40 Imposter wrote: kOs wins 3-1 easy. HE USED TO BE A PROGAMER HELLOOO! IdrA is a progamer, but he lost to F91. kOs USED TO be a progamer, and not even a titan at that. He is a coach, and even though he is familiar with strategy, he probably can not even play as efficiently as UpMagiC. Nal_rA was a TITAN, and you don't see him doing well in games. His ability to multitask proved to be declining in his recent GOM games. Just because he used to be a progamer, doesn't mean he automatically has some special powers. F91 practices just as hard as progamers, probably. Also, he is probably just as good. You might as well call him a "progamer." | ||
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agdeor
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KOreanS? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 18 2009 03:02 SlayerS_`HackeR` wrote: IdrA is a progamer, but he lost to F91. kOs USED TO be a progamer, and not even a titan at that. He is a coach, and even though he is familiar with strategy, he probably can not even play as efficiently as UpMagiC. Nal_rA was a TITAN, and you don't see him doing well in games. His ability to multitask proved to be declining in his recent GOM games. Just because he used to be a progamer, doesn't mean he automatically has some special powers. F91 practices just as hard as progamers, probably. Also, he is probably just as good. You might as well call him a "progamer." Actually, I was under the impression that he IS a progamer, just in China instead of Korea. Any confirmation? | ||
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
United States190 Posts
On April 18 2009 05:05 Shikyo wrote: Actually, I was under the impression that he IS a progamer, just in China instead of Korea. Any confirmation? Well in that case, F91 has no reason to lose... kOs wasn't one of the best, even when starcraft just started. Ten years later, what makes you think he will do well? IdrA plays on CJ, one of the best teams. kOs is a coach, not even a player, of the worst team. Seriously, need I say more? F91 is going to win. | ||
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BalliSLife
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
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parkin
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Piste
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iG.Zeep
Mexico253 Posts
F91 is going to get raped silly =P lol | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Will be ahead 3-0, get bored and lose twice, then win once more. | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
This is 4 years after. The skill has increased so much, and I'd say that Idra now is stronger than kOs ever was. 4-1 to F91. 4-2 at most. | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On April 18 2009 09:54 BalliSLife wrote: F91 is A on iccup, isn't that semi progamerish already hard to say really. Look at fenix he is 67-5 and at A- rank and he is nowhere near semi-pro level. | ||
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anTi_
United States499 Posts
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Meretricious
Canada161 Posts
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DanceCommander
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On April 18 2009 18:08 NoobsOfWrath wrote: F91 is going to absolutely demolish kos. I really don't see how so many people can put such literally completely blind faith in Kos just because he's a super old retired pro/korean. He's a coach, do you think for example iloveoov would lose to F91 now? | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On April 20 2009 13:19 Rostam wrote: He's a coach, do you think for example iloveoov would lose to F91 now? You can't compare oov with kos. Oov is a still also a player, and shows up in televised matches. To add to that, kos wasn't bonjwa and had < 50% winrate. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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Navane
Netherlands2748 Posts
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meathook
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
United States190 Posts
On April 20 2009 20:41 meathook wrote: I have no idea of what kOs is doing now, but him being a (ex-?)progamer I give him the slight advantage.. though f91 has shown that he can rape progamers too (idralol) .. still, kOs will win this 3-2. kOs is currently the coach of the worst proleague team. he used to be a progamer, but few years back. and not even one of the top progamers at that. on the other hand, CJ Entus, one of the best teams, had IdrA play F91. F91 beat him. even though kOs is a coach, he is not really a player, so he probably can not PLAY as well... i just named 6 arguments for F91. seriously F91 will own this has-been | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
On April 21 2009 03:42 SlayerS_`HackeR` wrote: kOs is currently the coach of the worst proleague team. he used to be a progamer, but few years back. and not even one of the top progamers at that. on the other hand, CJ Entus, one of the best teams, had IdrA play F91. F91 beat him. even though kOs is a coach, he is not really a player, so he probably can not PLAY as well... i just named 6 arguments for F91. seriously F91 will own this has-been lolrofl 1. It's been proven you dont need to be a "top" programmer to kick ass. Witness as korean b-teamers consistantly rape the best the foreign scene has to offer. 2. IdrA is no doubt one of the best foreigners on the scene right now. However he is still learning the korean way of practice and living which can be disorienting to many foreigners. (The korean style of living is very complex, and layered in many social complexities) 3. Estro is not a strong team. Is that kOs's fault? Estro is just a bad sponser. Maybe with some rennovations and some big names joining their team (Goodfriend sup?) Estro can play with the big boys. But right now, they're a grassroots team, with Up and Hyvaa unarguably their best players. And when Hyvaa is your zerg ace, you know your fucked. 4. kOs may not be "in shape" but he is well practiced no doubt in the "newer" tactics in starcraft. Since he is coaching the new generation of players, it wouldnt behoove him to stick with his age old tactics. kOs no doubt has kept up with the new generation of tactics | ||
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radar14
United States1437 Posts
since it would be cool if f91 beat him but 5 pts is ok too | ||
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JohnBall
Brazil1272 Posts
On April 16 2009 18:42 CoL_Drake wrote: the "oldschool" builds f91 plays so often will be destroyed by even older builds from kOs xD K0s will play one base two fact push! ubeatable! | ||
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LaLaBye
United States90 Posts
On April 21 2009 23:46 JohnBall wrote: K0s will play one base two fact push! ubeatable! 4 pool gg. | ||
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Sanity.
United States704 Posts
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
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Disintegrate
United States182 Posts
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
United States190 Posts
On April 24 2009 09:42 Disintegrate wrote: It would be funny if the old man had a heart attack right before the game. uhhh he's 25 years old | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
Liquibeted kOs but now slightly regretting it, kOs probably isn't any better than IdrA after all, I guess I'll have to hope kOs has better tilt control than IdrA. .Did you seriously just compare idra with a korean progamer? not just any gamer but one that was thought to be the next big terran. idra isnt even close to his level, and although kOs doesnt train as much as he used to he is still way past idra. | ||
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mmdmmd
722 Posts
On April 24 2009 21:08 GreEny K wrote: . Did you seriously just compare idra with a korean progamer? not just any gamer but one that was thought to be the next big terran. It's 2009 already and he managed to prove everyone wrong. | ||
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
United States190 Posts
On April 24 2009 21:08 GreEny K wrote: . Did you seriously just compare idra with a korean progamer? not just any gamer but one that was thought to be the next big terran. idra isnt even close to his level, and although kOs doesnt train as much as he used to he is still way past idra. dude, that was like 7 years ago. | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
60:40 odds in favour of F91. | ||
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ShamWOW
United States1 Post
I still think F91 is gonna win though, gonna be very close. | ||
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medic27
United States135 Posts
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Deleted User 39582
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oreyeon
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
United States190 Posts
On April 21 2009 05:33 DreaM)XeRO wrote: lolrofl 1. It's been proven you dont need to be a "top" programmer to kick ass. Witness as korean b-teamers consistantly rape the best the foreign scene has to offer. 2. IdrA is no doubt one of the best foreigners on the scene right now. However he is still learning the korean way of practice and living which can be disorienting to many foreigners. (The korean style of living is very complex, and layered in many social complexities) 3. Estro is not a strong team. Is that kOs's fault? Estro is just a bad sponser. Maybe with some rennovations and some big names joining their team (Goodfriend sup?) Estro can play with the big boys. But right now, they're a grassroots team, with Up and Hyvaa unarguably their best players. And when Hyvaa is your zerg ace, you know your fucked. 4. kOs may not be "in shape" but he is well practiced no doubt in the "newer" tactics in starcraft. Since he is coaching the new generation of players, it wouldnt behoove him to stick with his age old tactics. kOs no doubt has kept up with the new generation of tactics looks like my six significant arguments FOR F91 for inevitably honest. F91 won 4-0 BECAUSE of all the good reasons i listed. seriously, kOs is old and the best thing about him was he once got top three in a tourny. thats basically it. F91 will own these guys | ||
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herotempler
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